• DeepValueLover
    $BBRY $NOK are slipping behind Huawei. http://on.wsj.com/10LNcef
    1/25/13
    Reply (23)
    • KIA Investment Research: This link is slower but doesn't require logging in: http://tinyurl.com/ahpyxz4
      1/25/13
    • KIA Investment Research: Fortunately Huawei will be selling Windows Phone 8 powered phones. http://bit.ly/WZoVil
      1/25/13
    • DeepValueLover: This should be a wake up call for the $NOK board. Its time to get moving!! New phones later this spring hopefully.
      1/25/13
    • KIA Investment Research: Agreed. Have you seen the Laser, Catwalk, and heard about the new PureView? Very hot devices. I believe Huawei is primarily crap :)
      1/25/13
    • DeepValueLover: Nokia has better phones but Huawei has better sales. I'd rather have better sales. Nokia REALLY should push its superior technology.
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: "$BBRY $NOK are slipping behind Huawei." It wouldn't surprise me if Huawei were losing money on smart phones. ZTE certainly is. Huawei has
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: its bread and butter biz, networking equipment, to cushion any smartphone losses. Both companies have the benefit of government support, tho
      1/25/13
    • DeepValueLover: Yeah Zhang the Chinese government support is scary. They could choose to crush $BBRY and $NOK in China in favor of local vendors.
      1/25/13
    • gwenace: Rimm is not big in China to begin with. To the Chinese government, Nokia is better than Samsung. Neither will get crushed.
      1/25/13
    • DeepValueLover: Is there an official statement by the Chinese government regarding Nokia and Samsung?
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: "They could choose to crush $BBRY and $NOK in China in favor of local vendors." The Chinese government has been pretty generous to foreign
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: manufacturers that manufacture in China in terms of market access. GM and VW have the biggest market shares in the Chinese market. When I
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: say Huawei and ZTE have government support, I mean that the government will bail them out if they run into financial issues. Huawei is
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: profitable. ZTE is not. Neither is, so far, in any need of a bailout. I think the market remains too differentiated in terms of features and
      1/25/13
    • Zhang Fei: ease of use for a price war to break out, so it's not completely relevant. But Huawei and ZTE are definitely competing at the low end.
      1/25/13
    • DeepValueLover: Nokia needs to concentrate on the "middle". Low end smartphones will build Nokia profitability. Every Indian & Chinese with an Asha phone!
      1/25/13
    • gwenace: I second Zhang. Also, it's VERY hard to compete in the low-end market in China due to copycat phones. Lumia better stay away from the low.
      1/26/13
    • C.E.: Huawei and ZTE can only fight in low end, and all android phones at mercy of google.
      1/26/13
    • DeepValueLover: Google is a formidable competitor. With Samsung, Apple and Google beating down on Nokia's market share it will be a tough row to hoe.
      1/26/13
    • Charles Santerre: Tough row to hoe? OK farmer DVL. ;-)
      1/26/13
    • Charles Santerre: Luke, thanks for the free link to the article. Trying to find SA users outside NA & W. Eur to comment on smartphone evolution. If you...
      1/26/13
    • Charles Santerre: guys no of anyone please invite them; also want to know how good those Huawei & ZTE phones are: http://seekingalpha.com/p/ur1n
      1/26/13
    • KIA Investment Research: Ah, I always thought it was "tough road to hoe", turns out to be an error introduced in 1963. http://bit.ly/1131ozy
      1/28/13