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  • Tesla owners' love for their cars implies bright future, Jefferies says [View news story]
    "A Camry costs you at least a number I just pulled out of my butt"
    -jstack
    Jun 29, 2015. 03:51 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    @Cecil,
    There have been fundamentally better and more affordable cars than GM available for decades. Toyota in the 90s, Hyundai now. This isn't something new to GM. People continue to buy GM because they identify with the brand. The same reason why many people prefer iPhones over Android and Windows phones, the same reason many people prefer Coke over a store brand - branding and marketing works.
    Jun 29, 2015. 01:34 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    Cecil,
    GM has had a lot of customers for decades and yes, they have millions of them that are loyal to the GM brand and only buy GM cars. That's not to say that everyone that buys a GM won't buy another car because that's simply not true but there are a lot of people that have been buying GM/Chevy cars for decades and will continue to do so.
    Jun 29, 2015. 06:56 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    @Cecil
    Yes, GM has customers. Millions of them.

    http://tinyurl.com/njo...
    Jun 27, 2015. 02:54 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    watching,

    I could have but we know the Leaf, Bolt and eGolf exist, we know what the Leaf and eGolf cost, and we know that all 3 vehichles are targeting 200 mile ranges. The Model 3, while much talked about in range and price, doesn't actually exist. It is still a figment of people's imaginations not unlike unicorns, dragons and Never Never Land.
    Jun 26, 2015. 04:57 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    Dave_M,

    Nobody but California law requiring service to EVs on the road. GM took them off the road, to avoid throwing more money into the sinkhole they created. IT was a business decision to cancel the EV, that's it. I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that.
    Jun 26, 2015. 04:51 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    So now the Model 3 that only exists in Elon Musk's imagination will have a standard self-driving feature......sheesh. Did you get that from the back of a cracker jack box?

    Look, Musk has done a lot. He's a great visionary and I hope he can help bring EVs to more people but he doesn't sh#$ gold bricks. Let's have realistic discussions, not "did you know the Model 3 will be here by Christmas with a teleporter too?"-type whimsical fantasies.
    Jun 26, 2015. 02:39 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    Dave_M,

    As I said, they were not allowed to purchase the cars because GM would be required by law to implement a 15 year service structure if they did. That's why the cars were returned to GM. To suggest that the EV1 was in any way a success (beyond the engineering accomplishments) ignores all reality.

    As far as automotive flops go - the EV1 was right up there with the Ford Edsel and the Delorean.
    Jun 26, 2015. 01:55 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    As there is no 200 mile Tesla that's in the comparable price range of the the Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf and Volkswagon eGolf, it is ridiculous to speculate how much better the Tesla of Elon Musk's imagination will be. A lot will happen to these models between now and when the alleged Model 3 gets released in 3 or 4 years.

    I know a couple of Volt owners who are very happy with their car because it does exactly what GM intended it to do - be a nice driving, affordable car that runs exclusively on cheap electric power for regular commuting and gives them the flexibility to drive further when they want/need to.
    Jun 26, 2015. 09:54 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    The average car on the road is 11 years old. The average mileage driven in a year is 13-15,000 miles. Simple math will tell you that the average car has approximately 150,000 miles on it.

    http://ti.me/1GNFjfJ

    But go ahead, keep believing the myth that cars magically break down at 100K miles.
    Jun 26, 2015. 09:48 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    watchingfromabove,
    That's fine if your destination is within 200 miles. However, if you're driving cross-country, the availability of superchargers is going to determine where you can comfortably go without having to stop for 8 hours to charge up your car.

    Thanks for being so obtuse though.
    Jun 26, 2015. 09:42 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    Dave_M,

    The EV1 was available only as a lease only vehicle. And you can blame California law which mandated a 15 year service infrastructure for electric vehicles as the reason for the cars being taken off the road. The EV1 was a great feat of engineering but it was a financial boondoggle because the market didn't exist to support the price/sales targets needed for it to be a success, which is why GM scrapped it. It wasn't some tinfoil hat conspiracy by 'big oil'.
    Jun 26, 2015. 09:37 AM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    "Consumers are smart"

    No, actually they're not. Consumers make all kinds of irrational decisions when making purchases.

    http://bit.ly/1GNfzQA
    Jun 26, 2015. 07:28 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    doubleE,
    I think it's pretty clear caprmelee was talking about the ability to go anywhere cross-country on a road trip without any range anxiety. You can go lots of places with a Tesla provided there's a supercharger within 200 miles but that still leaves out huge swaths of the country.
    Jun 26, 2015. 07:17 AM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • GM Pokes Tesla With Chevy Bolt Development Progress Report [View article]
    pot,

    There's something to be said about creating demand by limiting availability. Many people do buy off the showroom floor but many also order cars to their specification and will accept the delay to get the car they want.

    Nevertheless, it's clear GM is serious about the Bolt and if I were a betting man, I'd bet that it hits the market before the Model 3 has a firm release date. Importantly for GM, if they can hit the 200 mile mark, they have the first relatively inexpensive EV that isn't going to have a complete range limitation of most EVs currently on the market. I can see it becoming a family's second car for local-ish driving.
    Jun 25, 2015. 04:36 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
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