• C. Guivi
    If you think RT tablets suck, you are confusing them with PCs. But they should be used like iPads & w/o keyboards $MSFT $NOK $AAPL $GOOG
    8/16/13
    Reply (79)
    • heatnup: Correct, but I would never buy one, however I would never buy a NOK phone other than the 1020, so I am not their primary customer
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    • C. Guivi: iPad and Surface RT user here, just my experience. I find the RT tablet nicely complements my Thinkpad notebook: table vs. couch
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    • heatnup: I can do everything on my phone I need to, If I cant then I move to my hybrid laptop, I don't need a third device to travel with...
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    • heatnup: I know there is a tablet market just like there was a netbook market, I just hope NOK goes in slow to test it out, so as not to lose money
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: Happy Lenovo Twist hybrid user here. All-in-one is the one for me. I would not consider RT tablet (anymore) due to incompatibility reasons
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    • Charles Santerre: RT critics forget that the iPad and Android tablets are the same damn things: stripped down OSes, just with more apps. I want a 7" RT.
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    • Charles Santerre: Why would I want a W8 Pro tablet when I have a laptop to do real work? Different items do different tasks, would give Nexus tab to family.
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    • Davidoff: I switched my iPad1 for a Surface. At first it was really great but bad app store, a lot of lags, I lost iCloud and a much less intuitive OS
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    • Davidoff: I don't see myself switching for anything besides iOS, all my devices are Apple and I have only a (poor) Lumia 820 as my office phone.
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: @Charles Since in the long run ARM and RT are just a stopgap measure while waiting for Intel x86 low power tech to catch up.
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    • Redrut: Stop living in the past, consumers have voted with their wallets. RT has failed. There is no argument here. No one bought it
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: In a similar fashion that L1020 finally combines two devices in one, the future IMO is one hybrid x86 device ala Lenovo Helix...
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    • zeeman1: Would rather buy a Win 8 tab, could use flash and full IE browser. That takes care of any missing apps.. NOK should forget about the tab..
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: ...where the lightweight screen/tablet part can be detached, while with keyboard the machine is a full fledged no compromises W8 x86....
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: laptop.
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    • Seppo Sahrakorpi: This is the fundamental logic / storyline why I am long $INTC, $MSFT, $LNVGY, and $NOK. Convergence of platforms and devices.
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    • zeeman1: NOK should forget the tab.. they have no business with tablets. not now when they are trying to stabilize the ship.. may be once they
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    • zeeman1: are profitable with phone business, they can try and experiment or two
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    • Charles Santerre: Give up on RT after one try? I'm glad you guys aren't CEOs. The Surface was too big, heavy & expensive. Tech will not wait for x86, c'mon.
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    • Charles Santerre: Make Surface RT @ $199, 7 inch and market it, it will sell. Tablet has very specific tasks it can do well, it's not a laptop.
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    • Charles Santerre: The world is big and people have different needs, tastes. Market's big enough to have all kinds of tablets, but price matters.
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    • Charles Santerre: People accept garbage. They buy $69 Polaroid tablets and weird Chinese brand tabs that can't do anything well. RT is universe ahead of those
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    • C. Guivi: @Redrut That is really silly to say (re your statement above). The Surface RT is a try-out product and people who tried are very satisfied.
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    • C. Guivi: There is also not a single argument against RT besides that it does not run desktop apps. People who say they don't need that and prefer it
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    • C. Guivi: light have a very valid argument - maybe those people are a niche but no need for bashing based on taste!
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    • domi1kenobi: sold all my NOK shares the moment I found out it was an RT tablet. 35% profit in 3 months - playing with options now (expensive tutorial)
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    • domi1kenobi: Guivi: the advantage windows has over the competition is the desktop. By releasing an incompatible version (RT) they lost this advantage
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    • C. Guivi: domi, I get that reasoning, but it's highly theoretical. Once you use it, you'll see it's great! Try it out against an iPad or any Android!
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    • Kay Herbert: The MSFT RT tablet was just too expensive. If Nokia manages to give good value like WP8, than the RT tablets can succeed!
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    • C. Guivi: The release of Windows 8, Windows RT, Windows Phone was just to much for people. They have been shocked by too much change too fast and...
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    • C. Guivi: Windows RT has become the scapegoat for all that because it was just the dot on the i.
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    • C. Guivi: People really are not objective what RT concerns and then when they use it are super surprised how cool it is.
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    • C. Guivi: Apps like Fresh Paint are so unique and exciting, nothing like that exists on Android http://bit.ly/17SbeHC
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    • C. Guivi: And you can of course use the full desktop websites of YouTube, Facebook etc. - you can't do that realy with the iPad - you are very often
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    • C. Guivi: routed away from Safari into an app. And IE10 on Windows RT is of course MUCH better than Chrome on Android. It's the same as IE10 Desktop.
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    • Davidoff: Guivi, who are you trying to convince here...? It's not a tech site. Just because I trade NOK doesn't mean I need to love RT or even Lumias.
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    • Davidoff: If 99% of the people didn't like RT or to be more precise, didn't even care about trying RT it's a poor move by NOK, end of story.
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    • Davidoff: Fresh Paint...? Man, are you serious? What the heck is going on with you today?
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    • C. Guivi: Davidoff, no problem!
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    • C. Guivi: It's a really awesome touch paint app by Microsoft Research. Seriously. No prob again if you are not in painting!
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    • Dakota4x4: Tablets are more convenant than a computer, not everyone has their computer on all day everyday. Quick and easy to use...sounds good to me.
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    • Dakota4x4: *convenient - oops
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    • heatnup: I have my phone in my pocket and another in the truck...
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    • C. Guivi: ...then you may like the upcoming Nokia Phablet! :-) There is NOK goodness for everyone! :P
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    • Dakota4x4: Not everyone has a smartphone. I'm talking for everyday use like surfing, e-mails. They don't have to power up a pc.
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    • Dakota4x4: Older people have a hard time reading off a small screen. Tablets solve that issue and they are energy efficient too.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Microsoft desperately tries to flog Surface RT (a very good design, by the way) to schools and universities at rock-bottom prices, but...
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    • Andreas Hopf: ...they don't want to purchase. Taxpayer's money saved, which is good. Windows RT is dead, it's Microsoft's PlayBook, consumers have voted.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Windows RT suffers from the same issues as does WP8 - there's no app for that : ) The Embalmer must have breathed heavily down Elop's neck.
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    • C. Guivi: Windows RT is as dead as Windows. By the way WinRT is the new API that replaces Win32. On the ARM CPU platform they took the chance to
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    • C. Guivi: not-support lots of legacy APIs - that is why other publishers besides MS is not allowed to make desktop apps on Windows RT, which is called
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    • C. Guivi: 'RT' because only the WinRT APIs are available for use. WinRT is work in progress and once it is completed there will be desktop apps from
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    • C. Guivi: everyone allowed again - but only new desktop apps using the new WinRT APIs. That's a necessary step for the future of Windows making it
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    • C. Guivi: much more maintainable, secure and performing by cutting off slack. The end result will be one OS from server, phone, watch or refrigerator.
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    • C. Guivi: So if you say Windows RT is dead you say Windows is dead. I doubt it, but there are also people who get help from that idea ;-)
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    • Dakota4x4: I like Nokia's innovation, these guys are dissing something that they haven't even seen yet!. The hardware can wow us again, like the 1020.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Windows RT sucks. Windows 8 works.
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    • Leont68: I hope nokia suprises us with a windows 8 tablet
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    • Andreas Hopf: I would buy one instantly. Still, I don't think a W8 tablet in its product range will help Nokia's predicament much, as well as its stock.
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    • heatnup: And then MSFT buys NOK to get phones and tablets, clearing out Surface......
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    • Leont68: I am in need of some kind of win8 tablet, if nokia builds one I will buy...
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    • Andreas Hopf: Well, that's already 2 Nokia W8 tablets on pre-order. Sometimes miracles do happen.
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    • C. Guivi: This topic is highly controversial but Andy Warhol said that's good thing! :-)http://bit.ly/15P85qy
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    • heatnup: Per the title, Why cant a tablet work like a desktop with full functionality but with Touch? My Sony Duo 11 does, I expect nothing less!
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    • C. Guivi: For me the Sony Duo 11 is a touch notebook, which is also great. But a tablet should be even lighter and for holding in your hands, I think.
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    • Alupang: Question: Is there such thing as a full Windows Pro tablet with phone functionality? Like a Samsung Note phone that runs Windows 8 Pro?
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    • C. Guivi: Not yet. Windows 8 and Windows RT still need the phone software. And I really can't wait to put 8 inches next to my ear to receive a call!
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    • C. Guivi: Seriously, I want my tablet to be able to make calls, SMS, WhatsApp, GPS and so on. That's what I hope the Nokia tablet will do for me!
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    • Alupang: Yes I want a Sam Note size phone tablet that integrates with my desktop--with USB 3.0 + full Office apps and flash browser included.
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    • Alupang: So this new Nokia RT 8.1 is the only game in town 4me, for a phone tablet. I can't carry a full blown Windows 8 Pro device everywhere I go.
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    • Alupang: I'm a cyclist commuter. I NEED a device like this new Nokia phone tablet running Windows , Explorer browser and Office. USB 3.0 seals it.
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    • C. Guivi: Exactly!
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    • domi1kenobi: To me RT is a workaround from MS because Intel does not have the required cpu's yet.
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    • Alupang: domi By that logic, Android also is a workaround. No ultralight, thin, long battery life device can run Windows 8 Pro yet. So why rag on RT?
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    • C. Guivi: Intel has indeed be sleeping at the wheel! A 'decade' after the iPhone launched there SoC is still not ready!
      8/17/13
    • domi1kenobi: typo : 14nm
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    • domi1kenobi: Alupang : because once Intel switched to the 11nm production the Windows 8 tablets will dominate and there will be no more place for RT.
      8/18/13
    • C. Guivi: There is no reason why MS should not release an x86-based version of RT though...besides it would probably drive lots of people mad ;-)
      8/18/13
    • C. Guivi: RT is a version of Windows where all apps must use the new APIs for Windows Store Apps, the so called WinRT API, which modernizes Win32.
      8/18/13