tresspass

America's Healthcare Problems Are Making It Less Competitive

James,

With all due respect, all I garnered from the article were lightly veiled innuendoes, mildly to more than mildly, critical re: Obama's heathcare initiatives. What was clearly apparent was finding fault with having the richest Americans shed a relatively miniscule amount of their wealth to , not only help their fellow citizens, but also save the system that, within a few years, pay for itself.

Although I did not come up with a comprehensive plan, I did point out some problems and solution s to wit: emergency room expense, lack of preventative care, law suit expense---all resolved with single payer and why.

I didn't see any straw man as I reread my response again.

Further, you are absolutely right on one score: I am angry.

Was the reiterated paragraph accurate? Yes it is. Your " don't take my word for it, etc...... " comment was a dare implying this component of paying for the initiatives were wrong. Am I wrong to have gathered that?

You didn't have any solutions at all in this article; however, you did delineate some of the problems accurately. Like another poster pointed out, why not just cut and paste them for another article where all of us interested in debating this issue have material to work with.

I know you are just as passionate about this topic as most of your followers are and I, for one, respect that. So I again, for one, look forward to some of your ideas for the big fix.

frank


On Jul 10 07:50 PM James Bibbings wrote:

> Dearest tresspass,
>
> So what you're saying is that this statement:
>
> "In a nutshell, the government is looking to tax those making higher
> wages to subsidize the care of those making lower wages. They want
> to do this in order to grant health insurance to everyone and create
> a public health care option. Don’t take my word for it though, read
> up on Barack Obama’s initial proposal and see for yourself."
>
> Is indeed accurate?
>
> All I see above is a field of straw man arguments, which is interesting
> to me since you haven't read any of my solutions. What is it about
> the truth that makes you think I am against you? What if next week
> I propose a 1 party system? You'll probably never know because you're
> too angry to even consider options beyond those which you have already
> accepted to be reasonable.

America's Healthcare Problems Are Making It Less Competitive

"In a nutshell, the government is looking to tax those making higher wages to subsidize the care of those making lower wages. They want to do this in order to grant health insurance to everyone and create a public health care option. Don’t take my word for it though, read up on Barack Obama’s initial proposal and see for yourself."

Gee, I like that idea. Anyone think Robin Hood was the bad guy? or was it the Sheriff of Nottingham?

What?..... you think the wealthy 2% who outright own 40+% of the assets in this country need third and fourth homes, 4 cars,a humvee ( i forgot the Land Rover, almost ), the third peal necklace for their daughter; 6th ruby, emerald, diamond whatever for their wives?

What's is your problem? Wealthy enough to afford health care or by extension let those without, get sick and die because you don't give a sh*t? Do you understand that process at all? It's really quite simple to understand if you dare go there.

My friend, this is coming to the point that if you and your cadres don't give a little , you will be losing a lot.
I believe you and the Mitch McConnel's, Grassleys and Hatches have lost your humanity some years back. It's gonna bite you in the ass one way or another.

Just another thought: What is the health care industry and obscenely paid lobbyists so afraid of in a government sponsored alternative? When their mantra has always been the gov't sucks at what they do?

Last, 15% ( as most know ) of health care costs in America go towards administering the dizzying plethora of different pieces of paper, " providers " use to administer.

With single payer, it's reduced by 2/3rds ( look to Scandanavia and the rest of Europe to ascertain those statistics--there there ). That's not billions but trillions of dollars---that'll would cover, handily, the 50 million uninsured, which easily ---via emergency room visits, getting sick and entering a hospital or any short or long term facility---costs the tax payer ( it hurts the middle class more---you know that, right? ), guess what? yep, trillions.
Why this happens? easy, holding off and not seeking preventative care because, duh....no insurance.

And , you and the AMA and their proxies in congress will like this ( the trial lawyers won't but who gives a sh.t?---they have too many "things " as it is )---no malpractice insurance required under single payer. Therefore no more extraneous, protective, unnecessary MRIs, x-rays, exploratory surgeries; specialists, ancillary procedures docs prescribe to cover, justifiably , their asses.

You know, we all know, the list is longer than this.