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  • Axion Power Concentrator 396: Apr. 16, 2015 [View instapost]
    regardless, iindelco, Bob's right about the collector, it would have to be lead oxide to behave as a traditional negative electrode. sorry for any confusion.

    Now I'm even more curious to hear EdB's answer to your question.
    May 5, 2015. 04:50 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 396: Apr. 16, 2015 [View instapost]
    Bob,
    The only question you should be trying to answer is: "Why did Axion fail?"
    May 5, 2015. 03:55 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 396: Apr. 16, 2015 [View instapost]
    Removing the expanded graphite shielding and using lead as the grid-collector covered with activated carbon sheeting only would essentially turn your PbC supercabattery into an Ultrabattery.

    The primary purpose of the shielding in the PbC is to prevent whatever metal(s) the collector is constructed of from participating in the electrochemistry, by preventing the electrolyte from contacting it. Since you're keeping the collector isolated from the acid, one might as well use a thinner copper collector.
    May 4, 2015. 08:55 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    I'm not calling you anything but Bob. Just responding to the tiresome choruses of "we don't know what happened", "we weren't in the room", "we don't have all the facts", "we're second-guessing" and "we're Monday-morning quarterbacking" and so on.

    The BOD failed. That's what "happened".

    The BOD was holding the patent to the lead-carbon supercabattery and had a functional product, but still couldn't write an effective grant proposal. In very generous times. Sad commentary.
    May 4, 2015. 08:05 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    Seriously Bob? I believe everyone here is painfully aware of what actually happened with these collaborations, strategic partnerships or whatever Axion called them in days past to sell stock: Absolutely nothing positive. At least I think that's an accurate understanding.
    May 4, 2015. 04:40 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 396: Apr. 16, 2015 [View instapost]
    OTOH, NSC marketed the hell out of the AGM version.
    May 4, 2015. 04:18 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 396: Apr. 16, 2015 [View instapost]
    iindelco, Until EdB answers, consider this: The copper collector can be very thin because of its tensile strength. Using lead would require thickening the electrode (and it would still slump), which would lower the number of + and - electrodes that would fit in the case, lowering both capacity and power.

    The tensile strength of copper is 10-20 times that of lead, so the difference is very significant.
    May 4, 2015. 04:03 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    There is no murkiness to my questions, RuggedDC.

    It's the shifty answers being provided that force what seem to you to be my shifting questions. I assure you that this is exactly the way scientific discussions are conducted when there are differing opinions.

    One has to nail the question to nail down the answer.
    May 4, 2015. 02:59 PM | 5 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    Now combine this apparent clownish corporate behavior with the fact that as soon as the first non-Russian carbon scientist came on board (Ed Buiel), the first thing he did was jump on a jet to Moscow for afore-mentioned purposes.

    What picture is forming in your mind? Perhaps the phrase "stupidest BOD ever"? "Directors" without direction?

    One wonders if Tom "The Master Negotiator" Granville didn't earn such praise baby-sitting his BOD, because he sure didn't negotiate anything to be proud of.

    Now that might be confrontational, Rick. :)
    May 4, 2015. 02:51 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    I am also not being incessant. I try to pose every question in very clear manner and they are never repeated where it is not necessary to clarify or in an effort to be more concise.

    I make no apology whatsoever as I attempt to understand the value of the IP - the only thing of any value left to share.
    May 4, 2015. 10:06 AM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    I am not being "confrontational" in the sense that you mean, Rick.

    EdB has asked questions I have answered and he has been responsive to questions being asked. It's a two-way conversation. I am sure you have had many days where you have made 17 comments (and many more) in a 24-h period.

    If you don't have any questions, fine. If you don't have any answers, also fine. Should be clear to you what is the best course of action in either case.
    May 4, 2015. 10:04 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    EdB,

    I'm trying to keep threads from turning into a bowl of noodles by pulling this one out.

    wrt your statement: "The ESMA patent does not include lead. It would be useless to EP. The Axion patent contains lead. Not good for PbC but very clearly describing the UB battery. This is pretty basic and should be easy to understand. "

    I disagree strongly!!!

    If Axion is NOT putting lead in their activate carbon sheeting, whoever controls the '252 patent could immediately file against Axion for infringement.

    Furthermore, whoever has license to '252 could immediately incorporate carbon-containing capacitive electrodes into any device they wanted.

    And only if Axion can defend its patent, a defense you already took a pass on, would such polarizable carbon-based electrodes would have to be free from lead.

    I agree this seems to be basic, but I am a scientist, not a lawyer, and this is a bit of both.
    May 4, 2015. 07:05 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    EdB,

    wrt your questions:

    (1) You think an EP license to the technology is being held secret???
    Answer: I don't know!!! That's why I asked. Could this be possible? Very early in the game, perhaps?

    (2) Not in any SEC documents?
    Answer: I am unaware of any such document. If any such agreement have to be filed separately, I think not. I don't mind rooting around in Edgar, but this technology goes way back.

    (3) Any royalties in Axion's financials?
    Answer: Never heard of anything. Would this be obvious? The Exide agreement announcement mentioned "sale of technology", nothing about royalties or licensing.

    Sometimes when I ask questions I think I know the answer, but want input. This is one of those times that I don't know the answer or even the range of possibilities, moral or immoral, legal or illegal, black, white or gray.

    I'm OK with asking questions I don't have the answer to as IANAL; I'm a scientist and that's the norm.
    May 4, 2015. 06:24 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    EdB,

    I am on record here suggesting that UltraBattery has a number of problems. My review of the LyonStation data indicates they have thermal issues limiting their output and cycling capability as well noting they had a permanent ~20% loss of capacity after ~12 months.

    I am also on record stating that I think the product may well be infringing, but IANAL. I am also on record stating that the hybridization of battery and supercabattery is a sketchy bit of novelty; I consider the Russian-invented Pb-C supercabattery to be truly novel.

    Do not confuse me with an UltraBattery fanatic. I invested a lot in the Axion supercabattery.

    Axion claims an EDLC, while CSIRO claims a battery - capacitor hybrid. Would this make any difference in your opinion?
    May 4, 2015. 06:10 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Axion Power Concentrator 397: Apr. 30, 2015 [View instapost]
    EdB,

    Let me try again, but I'll drop back to one question:

    (1) With respect to your stated purpose for your trip to Moscow to meet with the Russian inventors: What made you think you only needed a license to '862 when '252 is cited as the prototype for '429?
    May 4, 2015. 04:48 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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