Vienna's Comments Vienna's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/68904/comments What’s My Payment? http://seekingalpha.com/article/160886-whats-my-payment?source=feed#comment-671713 671713
in regard to your great articles, I would like to recall on your discussion on medical insurance, and how good the US is, and everybody treated in Europe would be dead, but in the US they would be treated to a much higher relyability.

Please refer to this article from the Washington Post, and please don't do it down as some cracy article.

www.washingtonpost.com...

seekingalpha.com/artic...]]>
Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:28:28 -0400
in regard to your great articles, I would like to recall on your discussion on medical insurance, and how good the US is, and everybody treated in Europe would be dead, but in the US they would be treated to a much higher relyability.

Please refer to this article from the Washington Post, and please don't do it down as some cracy article.

www.washingtonpost.com...

seekingalpha.com/artic...]]>
Why Healthcare Probably Won't Generate Jobs for a Recovery http://seekingalpha.com/article/160367-why-healthcare-probably-won-t-generate-jobs-for-a-recovery?source=feed#comment-667700 667700
This is how the god dam whole system works in europe. General medical aid for everybody, based on effectiveness, and a high quality based medical insurance for everybody that prefers it.

Is this so damm hard to understand. The only thing I keep on reading is how people praise the US system, and keep on explaining how other systems can not work, when they not not understand the systems, and their own system is ineffective and crashing.

And dont tell me that you dont need to wait for 2-3 hours when you go to hospital or the doctor. Been to the states and been waiting.



On Sep 08 10:03 AM John Galt wrote:

> Will health care reform create jobs? Well, not if you take away the
> profit motive.
>
> Does our health care cost more? Sure, but we have an aging boomer
> population, the fattest people on earth, and access to the best medical
> technology without lines. Yeah, we get better/faster service, and
> you pay for it.
>
> I had a friend that was all for a socialist health care system. I
> said which would you rather have...
>
> System A) Everybody gets the same health care, but when you need
> coverage/an operation, you take a number and wait in line regardless.
> It might be hours, days or months, but you wait in line regardless
> of your financial status, need or anything else.
>
> System B) If you are willing to pay more money, you get seen first.
> If Bill Gates is willing to pay more money, he get's the doctors
> services before the homeless guy.
>
> Now my friend that was for "universal health care" said she liked
> System B better and it blew my mind.]]>
Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:29:49 -0400
This is how the god dam whole system works in europe. General medical aid for everybody, based on effectiveness, and a high quality based medical insurance for everybody that prefers it.

Is this so damm hard to understand. The only thing I keep on reading is how people praise the US system, and keep on explaining how other systems can not work, when they not not understand the systems, and their own system is ineffective and crashing.

And dont tell me that you dont need to wait for 2-3 hours when you go to hospital or the doctor. Been to the states and been waiting.



On Sep 08 10:03 AM John Galt wrote:

> Will health care reform create jobs? Well, not if you take away the
> profit motive.
>
> Does our health care cost more? Sure, but we have an aging boomer
> population, the fattest people on earth, and access to the best medical
> technology without lines. Yeah, we get better/faster service, and
> you pay for it.
>
> I had a friend that was all for a socialist health care system. I
> said which would you rather have...
>
> System A) Everybody gets the same health care, but when you need
> coverage/an operation, you take a number and wait in line regardless.
> It might be hours, days or months, but you wait in line regardless
> of your financial status, need or anything else.
>
> System B) If you are willing to pay more money, you get seen first.
> If Bill Gates is willing to pay more money, he get's the doctors
> services before the homeless guy.
>
> Now my friend that was for "universal health care" said she liked
> System B better and it blew my mind.]]>
Why Healthcare Probably Won't Generate Jobs for a Recovery http://seekingalpha.com/article/160367-why-healthcare-probably-won-t-generate-jobs-for-a-recovery?source=feed#comment-665990 665990
You are not as prodcutive as you always like to present yourselfy, and you never listen to anything that anybody tells you - the US as general.

I am always being told that Airbus will never do fine, European cars are to small, the Euro is crap, the terrorists are going to casue harm to the US and european healthcare can never compete with the US.

Not to forget all the theories about how the bad communists in China can never compete with the US.

Look at your own charts and then think again.]]>
Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:17:56 -0400
You are not as prodcutive as you always like to present yourselfy, and you never listen to anything that anybody tells you - the US as general.

I am always being told that Airbus will never do fine, European cars are to small, the Euro is crap, the terrorists are going to casue harm to the US and european healthcare can never compete with the US.

Not to forget all the theories about how the bad communists in China can never compete with the US.

Look at your own charts and then think again.]]>
OBAMA IS FULL OF CRAP http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/239719-james-quinn/13898-obama-is-full-of-crap?source=feed#comment-591495 591495 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:23:44 -0400 Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-591478 591478 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:57:15 -0400 Wells Appears to Be Covertly Offloading Subprime Loans http://seekingalpha.com/article/149151-wells-appears-to-be-covertly-offloading-subprime-loans?source=feed#comment-590468 590468 How does this count for US banks?]]> Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:53:17 -0400 How does this count for US banks?]]> CALIFORNIA - LAND OF CONFUSION http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/239719-james-quinn/13857-california-land-of-confusion?source=feed#comment-590459 590459 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:50:40 -0400 Wells' 'Under the Radar' Subprime Loans http://seekingalpha.com/article/149210-wells-under-the-radar-subprime-loans?source=feed#comment-590175 590175 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:21:05 -0400 Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 1 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148385-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-1?source=feed#comment-590055 590055
OPtimist say that the first fusion reactors might be able to go online in 50 years. Till then humanity must do everything to expand the reserves of fusile fuel to the maximum.
High tax on energy - and fuck those who need cheap energy to fuel their fat asses.


On Jul 16 01:19 AM MSimon wrote:

> I am a boomer who has already retired penniless. It is a pretty good
> life. Central air, hot and cold running water, 10 Cray 1s on my desktop,
> etc. etc. etc.
>
> I live in many ways better than the kings of 1900.
>
> As to boomers having done us in? I think that the Social Security
> mess was started by FDR. And what have us boomers given all you folks?
> The microprocessor revolution.
>
> I have one last trick in my bag (I was there at the start of the
> microprocessor revolution when hackers were the white hats - I was
> one of those hackers) - Polywell Fusion. If it works you will get
> cheap space travel and a solution for energy problems that are good
> for at least 10,000 years.]]>
Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:55:52 -0400
OPtimist say that the first fusion reactors might be able to go online in 50 years. Till then humanity must do everything to expand the reserves of fusile fuel to the maximum.
High tax on energy - and fuck those who need cheap energy to fuel their fat asses.


On Jul 16 01:19 AM MSimon wrote:

> I am a boomer who has already retired penniless. It is a pretty good
> life. Central air, hot and cold running water, 10 Cray 1s on my desktop,
> etc. etc. etc.
>
> I live in many ways better than the kings of 1900.
>
> As to boomers having done us in? I think that the Social Security
> mess was started by FDR. And what have us boomers given all you folks?
> The microprocessor revolution.
>
> I have one last trick in my bag (I was there at the start of the
> microprocessor revolution when hackers were the white hats - I was
> one of those hackers) - Polywell Fusion. If it works you will get
> cheap space travel and a solution for energy problems that are good
> for at least 10,000 years.]]>
Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 1 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148385-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-1?source=feed#comment-588954 588954 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:12:14 -0400 Random Walk Down What Is Definitely Not Wall Street http://seekingalpha.com/article/148623-random-walk-down-what-is-definitely-not-wall-street?source=feed#comment-588596 588596

On Jul 14 09:18 PM conceptwizard wrote:

> It will be nice to have all these brand new buildings available to
> house the homeless, jobless Americans. Its a shame these darn buildings
> are kept emplty with all the tent cities popping up everywhere you'd
> think they'd chuck the keys to a parish priest to house people in.
> Just another waste, use the taxpaing money to bail out the banks
> that own the building and they let it sit empty. Why not make a homeless
> shelter out of them with community kitchens in the basements.
>
> But that would take creative thinking that I am quite sure they are
> not capable of.]]>
Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:27:25 -0400

On Jul 14 09:18 PM conceptwizard wrote:

> It will be nice to have all these brand new buildings available to
> house the homeless, jobless Americans. Its a shame these darn buildings
> are kept emplty with all the tent cities popping up everywhere you'd
> think they'd chuck the keys to a parish priest to house people in.
> Just another waste, use the taxpaing money to bail out the banks
> that own the building and they let it sit empty. Why not make a homeless
> shelter out of them with community kitchens in the basements.
>
> But that would take creative thinking that I am quite sure they are
> not capable of.]]>
Random Walk Down What Is Definitely Not Wall Street http://seekingalpha.com/article/148623-random-walk-down-what-is-definitely-not-wall-street?source=feed#comment-588594 588594
but hasn't there always been some last minute rescue

Dumbo, you don't rely on last minute rescues, you try to avoid them and prey that when it get hairy that it might work out, but you don't rely on it. That is what you are doing with Oil as well, dumbo, sit down and think before insulting other people.

Great, I am starting to us typical US articulation in my sentences.

On Jul 14 02:48 PM montyman wrote:

> Yes these problems are real, but my best source tells me that REITS
> will still do well (at least for a while yet). How? I didn't understand
> his explanation, but hasn't there always been some last minute rescue
> with things like this? And yes Tyler Durden "followers" (as they
> should be called) are indeed fools. When was the last time you made
> money shorting on Tyler's information???]]>
Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:21:03 -0400
but hasn't there always been some last minute rescue

Dumbo, you don't rely on last minute rescues, you try to avoid them and prey that when it get hairy that it might work out, but you don't rely on it. That is what you are doing with Oil as well, dumbo, sit down and think before insulting other people.

Great, I am starting to us typical US articulation in my sentences.

On Jul 14 02:48 PM montyman wrote:

> Yes these problems are real, but my best source tells me that REITS
> will still do well (at least for a while yet). How? I didn't understand
> his explanation, but hasn't there always been some last minute rescue
> with things like this? And yes Tyler Durden "followers" (as they
> should be called) are indeed fools. When was the last time you made
> money shorting on Tyler's information???]]>
Goldman Sachs Crushes Earnings Estimates http://seekingalpha.com/article/148685-goldman-sachs-crushes-earnings-estimates?source=feed#comment-588588 588588 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:07:20 -0400 Digging Deeper into Historical Market Data 1871-2009 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148608-digging-deeper-into-historical-market-data-1871-2009?source=feed#comment-588584 588584
On Jul 14 08:18 AM Ferdinand E. Banks wrote:

> Market data back to 1871! I wonder what I would have said and/or
> done if one of my finance students had come up with this idea. Probably
> made a note to do everything possible to give him or her a failing
> grade.]]>
Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:02:31 -0400
On Jul 14 08:18 AM Ferdinand E. Banks wrote:

> Market data back to 1871! I wonder what I would have said and/or
> done if one of my finance students had come up with this idea. Probably
> made a note to do everything possible to give him or her a failing
> grade.]]>
Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-588578 588578 What I don't get, you are all calling for free markets, so why do you need a political will.
Because the citizens and corporations of the US can not do it by themselfs, they are fat and lazy from eating Mac, sitting on your fat asses in your cars going shopping and just complaining about everything.
You will drill down to the last oil well and suck it out and then start thinking. That is how the US works, and that is why you screw up everything.
Your post war advantage is deminishing very fast, luckily for the world.


On Jul 14 11:05 PM James Quinn wrote:

> I think Picken's plan to convert our trucking fleets to natural gas
> makes a lot of sense. We have enough natural gas to supply ourselves
> for decades. As usual, no political will or consensus.]]>
Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:55:28 -0400 What I don't get, you are all calling for free markets, so why do you need a political will.
Because the citizens and corporations of the US can not do it by themselfs, they are fat and lazy from eating Mac, sitting on your fat asses in your cars going shopping and just complaining about everything.
You will drill down to the last oil well and suck it out and then start thinking. That is how the US works, and that is why you screw up everything.
Your post war advantage is deminishing very fast, luckily for the world.


On Jul 14 11:05 PM James Quinn wrote:

> I think Picken's plan to convert our trucking fleets to natural gas
> makes a lot of sense. We have enough natural gas to supply ourselves
> for decades. As usual, no political will or consensus.]]>
Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-588566 588566 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:30:18 -0400 IMF Offers Cautious Optimism for 2010 Recovery http://seekingalpha.com/article/148550-imf-offers-cautious-optimism-for-2010-recovery?source=feed#comment-587141 587141 So if all the Data I am reading over the last 12 month is true, how could you belive that the US was only doing -2,6%.]]> Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:48:23 -0400 So if all the Data I am reading over the last 12 month is true, how could you belive that the US was only doing -2,6%.]]> Random Walk Down What Is Definitely Not Wall Street http://seekingalpha.com/article/148623-random-walk-down-what-is-definitely-not-wall-street?source=feed#comment-587073 587073 The problem here is that they don't have their own brand, products; can't really compete with highly automated manufacturing, but are still to expensive in comparison with China/India CI competition.
Gladly I can give you more info on the situation here.
I used to work for one of the largest coupon state privatization companies, so I have some insight here.]]>
Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:13:09 -0400 The problem here is that they don't have their own brand, products; can't really compete with highly automated manufacturing, but are still to expensive in comparison with China/India CI competition.
Gladly I can give you more info on the situation here.
I used to work for one of the largest coupon state privatization companies, so I have some insight here.]]>
Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-586987 586987 E.g. Keep the population in the US stable, but it won't, cause you need growth, and one day you wake up, and polulation is as dense as in Europe, and guess what the people say here, we need growth.
Our ability to improve is also going to be our dooms fate.


On Jul 14 03:23 AM ariesl wrote:

> Isn't the real problem overpopulation? I believe it is. Unfortunately,
> even though it's a problem that should be simple to solve, we probably
> won't. That's because of most of the world's peoples beliefs in religion
> and/or cultural traditions. I fear we probably are doomed to see
> starvation and disease do the job of controling the Earth's swelling
> population. The attendant suffering of that outcome is a far greater
> sin than birth control or even abortion (though I'm no fan of the
> latter personally).
>
> If you look closely at China's success over the last 15 years you
> will see that it happened after the Government implemented their
> draconian but effective population control laws. It's too bad it
> can only be done in a totalitarian country because the results are
> spectacular. Compare the Chinese people's lives today with the 1980's
> when hundreds of millions were starving and there was no wealth or
> even a middle class. Compare their lives today with the people of
> Africa, the Middle East, or large parts of South America.
>
> It is quite easy to have great faith in God (your choice) and still
> understand that we individually decide whether to have children or
> not.
>
> No matter what your political leanings are, it's obvious that with
> a billion or two fewer people on the planet, peak oil, global warming,
> climate change, large scale extinctions of species, wars and starvation
> in the third world would be way smaller, or even nonexistant, problems!]]>
Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:38:52 -0400 E.g. Keep the population in the US stable, but it won't, cause you need growth, and one day you wake up, and polulation is as dense as in Europe, and guess what the people say here, we need growth.
Our ability to improve is also going to be our dooms fate.


On Jul 14 03:23 AM ariesl wrote:

> Isn't the real problem overpopulation? I believe it is. Unfortunately,
> even though it's a problem that should be simple to solve, we probably
> won't. That's because of most of the world's peoples beliefs in religion
> and/or cultural traditions. I fear we probably are doomed to see
> starvation and disease do the job of controling the Earth's swelling
> population. The attendant suffering of that outcome is a far greater
> sin than birth control or even abortion (though I'm no fan of the
> latter personally).
>
> If you look closely at China's success over the last 15 years you
> will see that it happened after the Government implemented their
> draconian but effective population control laws. It's too bad it
> can only be done in a totalitarian country because the results are
> spectacular. Compare the Chinese people's lives today with the 1980's
> when hundreds of millions were starving and there was no wealth or
> even a middle class. Compare their lives today with the people of
> Africa, the Middle East, or large parts of South America.
>
> It is quite easy to have great faith in God (your choice) and still
> understand that we individually decide whether to have children or
> not.
>
> No matter what your political leanings are, it's obvious that with
> a billion or two fewer people on the planet, peak oil, global warming,
> climate change, large scale extinctions of species, wars and starvation
> in the third world would be way smaller, or even nonexistant, problems!]]>
Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-585865 585865 seekingalpha.com/artic...]]> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:03:08 -0400 seekingalpha.com/artic...]]> Winter's Coming for the Boomers: Part 2 http://seekingalpha.com/article/148387-winter-s-coming-for-the-boomers-part-2?source=feed#comment-585859 585859 Lets say we do not have peak of anything, we still live in a world of limited resources, so if we don't peak now we will peak some time in future.
If we want to learn from the crisis, we should learn that it might not be wise to push things to the dead end, but rather find a sustainable solution in time.
So lets mike it time now, and start usign alternative methods, rather dan using existing sources to the possible dead end, and leave nothing for your own children, because that is where we are heading if peaopel are to lasy and greedy to put in the effort to implement alternate energy, yes it might be more expensive, but then just don't use as much, or invest in high-tech, less energy consuming products, which again require more technology.
There is always a other way, don't just go ahead in the way that has been.]]>
Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:00:20 -0400 Lets say we do not have peak of anything, we still live in a world of limited resources, so if we don't peak now we will peak some time in future.
If we want to learn from the crisis, we should learn that it might not be wise to push things to the dead end, but rather find a sustainable solution in time.
So lets mike it time now, and start usign alternative methods, rather dan using existing sources to the possible dead end, and leave nothing for your own children, because that is where we are heading if peaopel are to lasy and greedy to put in the effort to implement alternate energy, yes it might be more expensive, but then just don't use as much, or invest in high-tech, less energy consuming products, which again require more technology.
There is always a other way, don't just go ahead in the way that has been.]]>
The Tellurium Supply Conjecture and the Future of First Solar http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/65370-jack-lifton/12427-the-tellurium-supply-conjecture-and-the-future-of-first-solar?source=feed#comment-584908 584908 I have read too many articles of people convincing others of investment of toxic assests with a typical voice that sounds like yours.

So I do not believe in what you comment here either. If you like to comment, and consider you have the knowledge then post it in a communicative way, otherwise you are not credible in what you arite either, even if you might be a great pundit.


On Jul 12 03:04 PM ECD Fan wrote:

> To Mr. Lifton: A small lesson in economics: In a world of infinite
> resources, prices will be close to zero. In a world of limited resources,
> higher prices will lead to higher capex and R&D, creating new
> technologies and extraction methods that will lower costs and increase
> both probable and proven reserves. We did not run out of oil last
> year. And neither did we 30 years ago. And won't in the next 30 years.
> Same with tellurium.
>
> To yellowboard: Phase-change memory is a techno-Ponzi. It was "invented"
> 40 years ago by the Charlatan Extraordinaire. Nobody has been able
> to commercialize it after all these years and millions wasted. NASA
> looked at the BAE's 4Mbit monstrosity (supposedly commercial since
> 2006), and found that the thing can't even remember the bits right.
> And Numonyx has no commercial product, despite their claims (if they
> did, where is the public datasheet?). A certain team within Samsung
> is still feeding the press false stories about their "perfect RAM."
> You can learn more about the techno-Ponzi here:
>
> ecdfan.blogspot.com/20...
>
>
> To Vienna: If you don't know, why are commenting? I suggest you learn
> first.]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:43:44 -0400 I have read too many articles of people convincing others of investment of toxic assests with a typical voice that sounds like yours.

So I do not believe in what you comment here either. If you like to comment, and consider you have the knowledge then post it in a communicative way, otherwise you are not credible in what you arite either, even if you might be a great pundit.


On Jul 12 03:04 PM ECD Fan wrote:

> To Mr. Lifton: A small lesson in economics: In a world of infinite
> resources, prices will be close to zero. In a world of limited resources,
> higher prices will lead to higher capex and R&D, creating new
> technologies and extraction methods that will lower costs and increase
> both probable and proven reserves. We did not run out of oil last
> year. And neither did we 30 years ago. And won't in the next 30 years.
> Same with tellurium.
>
> To yellowboard: Phase-change memory is a techno-Ponzi. It was "invented"
> 40 years ago by the Charlatan Extraordinaire. Nobody has been able
> to commercialize it after all these years and millions wasted. NASA
> looked at the BAE's 4Mbit monstrosity (supposedly commercial since
> 2006), and found that the thing can't even remember the bits right.
> And Numonyx has no commercial product, despite their claims (if they
> did, where is the public datasheet?). A certain team within Samsung
> is still feeding the press false stories about their "perfect RAM."
> You can learn more about the techno-Ponzi here:
>
> ecdfan.blogspot.com/20...
>
>
> To Vienna: If you don't know, why are commenting? I suggest you learn
> first.]]>
The Tellurium Supply Conjecture and the Future of First Solar http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/65370-jack-lifton/12427-the-tellurium-supply-conjecture-and-the-future-of-first-solar?source=feed#comment-584574 584574
ECD FAn if probably a shill, otherwise he would not be using the I know better bullshit articulation.

On Jul 12 09:03 AM Jack Lifton wrote:

> It's amazing to me how the limitations of the amount of natural resources]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:42:32 -0400
ECD FAn if probably a shill, otherwise he would not be using the I know better bullshit articulation.

On Jul 12 09:03 AM Jack Lifton wrote:

> It's amazing to me how the limitations of the amount of natural resources]]>
China Blows a Double Bubble http://seekingalpha.com/article/148076-china-blows-a-double-bubble?source=feed#comment-584482 584482 I have lived in the states for 9 month and have audited over 20 factories all over the states within the last few years. I must say that I have met many people who where very open to new procedures. Besides that I have been learning Chinese and speak it quite well, been there since 1994.
What I want to say, is probably the same that you mentioned. When evaluating a system, you need to take into account the parameters and look into them deeply, without going back to the typical old myth and evaluating a systems this way. What typically is done, and what is completely distracting are the following arguments,

they are communists, no free market like in the US, they don't report correctly ....... e.g. in Michigan factories no argument was ever considered, since they where the inventors of production line manufacturing . DOT

People have to start looking over the plate.


On Jul 12 11:27 AM coreopsis wrote:

> Sadly, Vienna, I must counsel you: you cannot reason with most Americans.
> They live in an island (albeit a very large one) which is quite impervious
> to serious understanding. They work among, and go home to other,
> Americans. This is a tremendous liability when you consider that
> most of the rest of the world is increasing its understanding of
> what is valuable and effective from many systems around the world.
>
>
> In less than a decade, the US has brought us the Internet bubble,
> Enron, MCI, and the latest incarnation of delusion: AIG, Citibank,
> Fannie Mae, etc. The future of the globe must move away from the
> US to a rebalance with multiple parties, including the EU, the BRICs,
> and other emerging nations.
>
> 'Le roi est mort, vive le Roi!']]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:32:02 -0400 I have lived in the states for 9 month and have audited over 20 factories all over the states within the last few years. I must say that I have met many people who where very open to new procedures. Besides that I have been learning Chinese and speak it quite well, been there since 1994.
What I want to say, is probably the same that you mentioned. When evaluating a system, you need to take into account the parameters and look into them deeply, without going back to the typical old myth and evaluating a systems this way. What typically is done, and what is completely distracting are the following arguments,

they are communists, no free market like in the US, they don't report correctly ....... e.g. in Michigan factories no argument was ever considered, since they where the inventors of production line manufacturing . DOT

People have to start looking over the plate.


On Jul 12 11:27 AM coreopsis wrote:

> Sadly, Vienna, I must counsel you: you cannot reason with most Americans.
> They live in an island (albeit a very large one) which is quite impervious
> to serious understanding. They work among, and go home to other,
> Americans. This is a tremendous liability when you consider that
> most of the rest of the world is increasing its understanding of
> what is valuable and effective from many systems around the world.
>
>
> In less than a decade, the US has brought us the Internet bubble,
> Enron, MCI, and the latest incarnation of delusion: AIG, Citibank,
> Fannie Mae, etc. The future of the globe must move away from the
> US to a rebalance with multiple parties, including the EU, the BRICs,
> and other emerging nations.
>
> 'Le roi est mort, vive le Roi!']]>
Austrian School of Economics Is on the Rise http://seekingalpha.com/article/148262-austrian-school-of-economics-is-on-the-rise?source=feed#comment-584325 584325 Average taxation is approx. 30% due to progressive taxation.
This is probably the amount that is required to keep a system running sustainably. As we can see in the US many public goods have not maintained, and these will get back at you, due to lack of investment of private companies. Roads, Power grid, School ...]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:46:46 -0400 Average taxation is approx. 30% due to progressive taxation.
This is probably the amount that is required to keep a system running sustainably. As we can see in the US many public goods have not maintained, and these will get back at you, due to lack of investment of private companies. Roads, Power grid, School ...]]>
Last Quarter Is Going to Be Hard to Beat http://seekingalpha.com/article/148181-last-quarter-is-going-to-be-hard-to-beat?source=feed#comment-584085 584085 There are just too many negative signs out there as to keep the party running.
The compound interest system needs a reset once in a while.]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:08:57 -0400 There are just too many negative signs out there as to keep the party running.
The compound interest system needs a reset once in a while.]]>
China Blows a Double Bubble http://seekingalpha.com/article/148076-china-blows-a-double-bubble?source=feed#comment-584056 584056 when I was in the states I have been lectures on the great China thing. Many people quoted statistics, but used the PPP ones. In the same sentence they believed China would buy US stuff. What they would not understand, that the PPP uses chinese prices, but they will not be able to buy US stuff using nominal values, and if then only US stuff produced in China, where the bosses in US will recieve their payments. The avarage citizen in the US will not have too much benefit of this, for some time to come.
In future we all have to learn to live with less.


On Jul 11 01:17 PM Michael Clark wrote:

> Actually, Hutton's entire article is worth reading, especially by
> those who think China is going to lead the world back to affluence.
>
>
> www.guardian.co.uk/wor...]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:34:28 -0400 when I was in the states I have been lectures on the great China thing. Many people quoted statistics, but used the PPP ones. In the same sentence they believed China would buy US stuff. What they would not understand, that the PPP uses chinese prices, but they will not be able to buy US stuff using nominal values, and if then only US stuff produced in China, where the bosses in US will recieve their payments. The avarage citizen in the US will not have too much benefit of this, for some time to come.
In future we all have to learn to live with less.


On Jul 11 01:17 PM Michael Clark wrote:

> Actually, Hutton's entire article is worth reading, especially by
> those who think China is going to lead the world back to affluence.
>
>
> www.guardian.co.uk/wor...]]>
China Blows a Double Bubble http://seekingalpha.com/article/148076-china-blows-a-double-bubble?source=feed#comment-584053 584053
> Careful what you believe about China. They tell us what they want
> us to believe.
We believe that the US also tells us and their citzens what they want

> China is still a communist country
Stop riding the communist thing, that was 1950, it does not matter in fact if your capitalist or communist, the US has 2 parties opposed to one chinese, that both do the same, so where is the difference.

> It was explained to me by a Chinese national: 'When a Chinese
> business takes out a loan from the bank, 50% of the loan is
> earmarked for bribes.' In other words, 50% of the loan is non-
> performing from its inception
I wonder how much corruption is going on in the US, these bonuses, the wars and the rest that seems to be quite well nown.

So after you have lectured the world on so many things, I will give you one good suggestion,
Sweep before your own door (a German saying)

On Jul 11 03:54 AM Michael Clark wrote:

> Careful what you believe about China. They tell us what they want
> us to believe.
>
> have a gut feeling that China's 'green shoots' may not be green at
> all. I did read about huge increases in automobile sales. And I watch
> Chinese stock indexes rise without looking back for the last few
> months. But there is something about China I just don't trust. China
> is still a communist country. China (like all Asian countries) is
> more concerned about appearances that with realities, more concerned
> about what the neighbor is saying and thinking. I've been told that
> 'face' is so important in Asia, that an Asian would rather dresss
> well and have nothing in his pocket than dress poorly and have money
> in his pocket.
>
> During the Vietnam War, Americans would ask ally South Vietnamese
> officers and intelligence operatives about existing conditions on
> the ground; the response was always positive. It was either the need
> to maintain 'face' -- that is, put a good face on everything -- or
> because the South Vietnamese officials felt it would be rude to tell
> the Americans the truth if they thought they didn't want to hear
> the truth. It was hugely frustrating for Americans who live to fix
> the negatives to never hear any negatives from their allies. Eventually,
> the Americans stopped asking their allies anything, except about
> things that didn't matter, like the weather.
>
> In my mind, the whole Asian economic miracle (China and Vietnam,
> etc.) of the last decade is a bubble of illusion waiting to break.
> Interesting that I should come across an article on the web this
> week (DNA Read the World) by Venkatesan Vembu where the writer calls
> into question the Chinese recovery:
>
> Increasingly, economy watchers are beginning to believe falsehood
> could go a step beyond: China's GDP numbers. Ever since the official
> Chinese statistical agency announced earlier this year that the country's
> GDP grew 6.1% in the first quarter of 2009, there have been murmurs
> of scepticism about the authenticity of those figures. A few have
> observed that the GDP data are inconsistent with other data, such
> as weak power production.
> Those murmurs have in recent weeks turned into a high-decibel chorus
> that is beginning to openly rubbish the validity of the official
> numbers.
> "The Q1 6.1% GDP outturn is simply a lie," notes Albert Edwards,
> chief global strategist, Societe Generale. "It helps explain why
> the Chinese data is derided by so many economic commentators."<br/&...
> prices worldwide have surged in recent weeks on the hopes of a robust
> V-shaped revival in the Chinese economy. But Edwards, who had rightly
> called the Malaysian economic crisis of 1997 and the dotcom bust
> of 2000, believes that "to the extent that the renewed surge in commodities
> and the metals and mining sectors are based on the Chinese growth
> miracle, the markets are relying on a combination of hype, lies and
> wishful thinking."
> Edwards isn't alone in questioning the validity of the official data.
> Last month, the International Energy Agency (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
> observed that China's first-quarter GDP data "does not tally with
> oil demand data, which contracted by 3.5% year on year." One explanation
> for this, IEA analysts reasoned, "is simply that real GDP data are
> not accurate, and therefore should not be taken at face value."<br/>Simu...
> analysts at Lombard Street Research, a London-based economic consultancy,
> too argued that the 6.1% GDP growth figure was inconsistent with
> the 20% decline in trade volumes over the same period, because it
> would have required domestic demand to expand by 9% in real terms.
> Using official nominal annual growth rates for GDP and consumption
> for the first quarter, and consumer and fixed investment price indices
> as deflators for consumer spending and investment, respectively,
> Lombard analysts claimed that domestic demand expanded at most by
> 2% year on year in real terms.
> They therefore concluded that real GDP growth in the first quarter
> was probably slightly negative or nil at best, and even in the fourth
> quarter of 2008, real growth was likely negative or flat. "If so,
> the last two quarters would effectively signal, from a Chinese perspective,
> a recession of a rare magnitude."
> China's official statistical agency, the National Bureau of Statistics,
> responded to IEA's scepticism with a stern rap on the knuckles. "It
> is regrettable that the point of view in the... article is groundless,"
> a notice on its website said.
> "We believe that, for an international organisation, this approach
> lacks seriousness.""
>
> Even economists who point to anecdotal evidence of China's recovery
> concede that interpreting official Chinese data is problematic.<br/>...
> to understand China's GDP data is always a nightmare for professional
> China economists," observes Credit Suisse chief regional economist
> Dong Tao. "Since I joined this industry 14 years ago, I've had this
> trouble, I still have this trouble, and I suspect I will continue
> to have this trouble."
> He points out that there is abundant anecdotal evidence of a "phenomenal
> improvement" in China's economy over the previous quarter too. "Go
> to restaurants, talk to real estate agents, count the number of shipping
> containers at terminals, see the number of cars being sold... I believe
> in my eyes."
> The plain-speaking Edwards, however, argues that "if the bubble of
> belief in China's medium-term growth prospects finally bursts, it
> will have huge investment implications."
> It is all too easy, he reckons, for investors to buy into "beguiling
> growth stories, which are in fact utter nonsense." He concedes that
> China's mammoth 4 trillion yuan stimulus has had a beneficial effect
> on economic activity this year, but says that he still questions
> the "quaint notion the markets now seem to have that the Chinese
> economy can grow at a respectable rate when the rest of the world
> is in a deep recession."
> The "bullish group think on China is just as vulnerable to massive
> disappointment as any other extreme of bubble nonsense I have seen
> over the last two decades," says Edwards. "The fall to earth will
> be equally shocking."
>
> dnaindia.com/money/rep...
>
>
> This week I also read that an official Chinese banking committee
> oveersight member admitted by over 50% of the loans connected to
> the government's massive stimulus program had been spent to purchase
> shares in China's stock markets and for purchase of Chinese houses
> and land. I didn't realize the stock market and the housing markets
> were 'infrastructure' plays. If stocks correct, and Chinese property
> markets continue to decline, these loans might quickly add to the
> problem Chinese banks have almost always had with non-performing
> loans.
>
> It was explained to me by a Chinese national: 'When a Chinese business
> takes out a loan from the bank, 50% of the loan is earmarked for
> bribes.' In other words, 50% of the loan is non-performing from its
> inception.
>
> Yesterday, China reported that exports fell for an eighth month,
> falling 21.4%, after a 26.4% drop in May. Imports also declined,
> but by less than the estimated 13.2%. 'Green shoots' anyone? Anyone?
>
>
> Sun Mingchun, Chief China Economist at Nomura Holdings was the first
> to stand up and cheer the report: 'There is light at the end of the
> tunnel,' Mingchun (actually) said. "The worst for exports will soon
> be over."
>
> Premier Wen Jiabao, however, was not so quick to jump up and down
> and smile. He said the foundations for an economic recovery were
> "not yet solid" and pledged to continue a pro-active fiscal policy
> and moderately loose monetary policy
>
> Exports to the U.S. fell 16.9 percent in the first half of 2009 from
> a year earlier, the customs bureau reported. Shipments to the European
> Union declined 24.5 percent.
>
> I won't even get in to the bloody riots that have swept through China
> over the last year, the most recent being a mix of have-not Uigurs
> (Chinese Turkish-language Muslims) and have (Han Chinese) in the
> northwest of China, which left 100 dead, 1000 injured and 1500 arrested.
> One of the targets of the riot was a new car showroom that left 65
> new cars burned and smashed.
>
> Economic-inspired riots have swept Chinese provinces for the last
> year -- and Chinese officials are concerned about more civil unrest.
> Anecdotal evidence has been bandied about the internet since 2005
> that agents of the Chinese government (and independent rich Chinese)
> are buying U.S. foreclosed houses into which they might move their
> families if civil unrest were to topple the Chinese government or
> if the boom might turn to bust.]]>
Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:26:28 -0400
> Careful what you believe about China. They tell us what they want
> us to believe.
We believe that the US also tells us and their citzens what they want

> China is still a communist country
Stop riding the communist thing, that was 1950, it does not matter in fact if your capitalist or communist, the US has 2 parties opposed to one chinese, that both do the same, so where is the difference.

> It was explained to me by a Chinese national: 'When a Chinese
> business takes out a loan from the bank, 50% of the loan is
> earmarked for bribes.' In other words, 50% of the loan is non-
> performing from its inception
I wonder how much corruption is going on in the US, these bonuses, the wars and the rest that seems to be quite well nown.

So after you have lectured the world on so many things, I will give you one good suggestion,
Sweep before your own door (a German saying)

On Jul 11 03:54 AM Michael Clark wrote:

> Careful what you believe about China. They tell us what they want
> us to believe.
>
> have a gut feeling that China's 'green shoots' may not be green at
> all. I did read about huge increases in automobile sales. And I watch
> Chinese stock indexes rise without looking back for the last few
> months. But there is something about China I just don't trust. China
> is still a communist country. China (like all Asian countries) is
> more concerned about appearances that with realities, more concerned
> about what the neighbor is saying and thinking. I've been told that
> 'face' is so important in Asia, that an Asian would rather dresss
> well and have nothing in his pocket than dress poorly and have money
> in his pocket.
>
> During the Vietnam War, Americans would ask ally South Vietnamese
> officers and intelligence operatives about existing conditions on
> the ground; the response was always positive. It was either the need
> to maintain 'face' -- that is, put a good face on everything -- or
> because the South Vietnamese officials felt it would be rude to tell
> the Americans the truth if they thought they didn't want to hear
> the truth. It was hugely frustrating for Americans who live to fix
> the negatives to never hear any negatives from their allies. Eventually,
> the Americans stopped asking their allies anything, except about
> things that didn't matter, like the weather.
>
> In my mind, the whole Asian economic miracle (China and Vietnam,
> etc.) of the last decade is a bubble of illusion waiting to break.
> Interesting that I should come across an article on the web this
> week (DNA Read the World) by Venkatesan Vembu where the writer calls
> into question the Chinese recovery:
>
> Increasingly, economy watchers are beginning to believe falsehood
> could go a step beyond: China's GDP numbers. Ever since the official
> Chinese statistical agency announced earlier this year that the country's
> GDP grew 6.1% in the first quarter of 2009, there have been murmurs
> of scepticism about the authenticity of those figures. A few have
> observed that the GDP data are inconsistent with other data, such
> as weak power production.
> Those murmurs have in recent weeks turned into a high-decibel chorus
> that is beginning to openly rubbish the validity of the official
> numbers.
> "The Q1 6.1% GDP outturn is simply a lie," notes Albert Edwards,
> chief global strategist, Societe Generale. "It helps explain why
> the Chinese data is derided by so many economic commentators."<br/&...
> prices worldwide have surged in recent weeks on the hopes of a robust
> V-shaped revival in the Chinese economy. But Edwards, who had rightly
> called the Malaysian economic crisis of 1997 and the dotcom bust
> of 2000, believes that "to the extent that the renewed surge in commodities
> and the metals and mining sectors are based on the Chinese growth
> miracle, the markets are relying on a combination of hype, lies and
> wishful thinking."
> Edwards isn't alone in questioning the validity of the official data.
> Last month, the International Energy Agency (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
> observed that China's first-quarter GDP data "does not tally with
> oil demand data, which contracted by 3.5% year on year." One explanation
> for this, IEA analysts reasoned, "is simply that real GDP data are
> not accurate, and therefore should not be taken at face value."<br/>Simu...
> analysts at Lombard Street Research, a London-based economic consultancy,
> too argued that the 6.1% GDP growth figure was inconsistent with
> the 20% decline in trade volumes over the same period, because it
> would have required domestic demand to expand by 9% in real terms.
> Using official nominal annual growth rates for GDP and consumption
> for the first quarter, and consumer and fixed investment price indices
> as deflators for consumer spending and investment, respectively,
> Lombard analysts claimed that domestic demand expanded at most by
> 2% year on year in real terms.
> They therefore concluded that real GDP growth in the first quarter
> was probably slightly negative or nil at best, and even in the fourth
> quarter of 2008, real growth was likely negative or flat. "If so,
> the last two quarters would effectively signal, from a Chinese perspective,
> a recession of a rare magnitude."
> China's official statistical agency, the National Bureau of Statistics,
> responded to IEA's scepticism with a stern rap on the knuckles. "It
> is regrettable that the point of view in the... article is groundless,"
> a notice on its website said.
> "We believe that, for an international organisation, this approach
> lacks seriousness.""
>
> Even economists who point to anecdotal evidence of China's recovery
> concede that interpreting official Chinese data is problematic.<br/>...
> to understand China's GDP data is always a nightmare for professional
> China economists," observes Credit Suisse chief regional economist
> Dong Tao. "Since I joined this industry 14 years ago, I've had this
> trouble, I still have this trouble, and I suspect I will continue
> to have this trouble."
> He points out that there is abundant anecdotal evidence of a "phenomenal
> improvement" in China's economy over the previous quarter too. "Go
> to restaurants, talk to real estate agents, count the number of shipping
> containers at terminals, see the number of cars being sold... I believe
> in my eyes."
> The plain-speaking Edwards, however, argues that "if the bubble of
> belief in China's medium-term growth prospects finally bursts, it
> will have huge investment implications."
> It is all too easy, he reckons, for investors to buy into "beguiling
> growth stories, which are in fact utter nonsense." He concedes that
> China's mammoth 4 trillion yuan stimulus has had a beneficial effect
> on economic activity this year, but says that he still questions
> the "quaint notion the markets now seem to have that the Chinese
> economy can grow at a respectable rate when the rest of the world
> is in a deep recession."
> The "bullish group think on China is just as vulnerable to massive
> disappointment as any other extreme of bubble nonsense I have seen
> over the last two decades," says Edwards. "The fall to earth will
> be equally shocking."
>
> dnaindia.com/money/rep...
>
>
> This week I also read that an official Chinese banking committee
> oveersight member admitted by over 50% of the loans connected to
> the government's massive stimulus program had been spent to purchase
> shares in China's stock markets and for purchase of Chinese houses
> and land. I didn't realize the stock market and the housing markets
> were 'infrastructure' plays. If stocks correct, and Chinese property
> markets continue to decline, these loans might quickly add to the
> problem Chinese banks have almost always had with non-performing
> loans.
>
> It was explained to me by a Chinese national: 'When a Chinese business
> takes out a loan from the bank, 50% of the loan is earmarked for
> bribes.' In other words, 50% of the loan is non-performing from its
> inception.
>
> Yesterday, China reported that exports fell for an eighth month,
> falling 21.4%, after a 26.4% drop in May. Imports also declined,
> but by less than the estimated 13.2%. 'Green shoots' anyone? Anyone?
>
>
> Sun Mingchun, Chief China Economist at Nomura Holdings was the first
> to stand up and cheer the report: 'There is light at the end of the
> tunnel,' Mingchun (actually) said. "The worst for exports will soon
> be over."
>
> Premier Wen Jiabao, however, was not so quick to jump up and down
> and smile. He said the foundations for an economic recovery were
> "not yet solid" and pledged to continue a pro-active fiscal policy
> and moderately loose monetary policy
>
> Exports to the U.S. fell 16.9 percent in the first half of 2009 from
> a year earlier, the customs bureau reported. Shipments to the European
> Union declined 24.5 percent.
>
> I won't even get in to the bloody riots that have swept through China
> over the last year, the most recent being a mix of have-not Uigurs
> (Chinese Turkish-language Muslims) and have (Han Chinese) in the
> northwest of China, which left 100 dead, 1000 injured and 1500 arrested.
> One of the targets of the riot was a new car showroom that left 65
> new cars burned and smashed.
>
> Economic-inspired riots have swept Chinese provinces for the last
> year -- and Chinese officials are concerned about more civil unrest.
> Anecdotal evidence has been bandied about the internet since 2005
> that agents of the Chinese government (and independent rich Chinese)
> are buying U.S. foreclosed houses into which they might move their
> families if civil unrest were to topple the Chinese government or
> if the boom might turn to bust.]]>
Beginning of Another Big Market Decline? Not Quite http://seekingalpha.com/article/147711-beginning-of-another-big-market-decline-not-quite?source=feed#comment-580001 580001
I think there are 20+ charts telling you something else, you just need to find the graphs you like to find to approve your own estimates.

So if people now tell me that you need to be a good analyst and do your homework, how about this:

"recent price decline does not suggest any change in the upward trend of oil prices"

Why should any decline not suggest any change upward ....

One always needs to analyse sentences, sometimes they are packed in great articles, and everybody tends to just take it as given.]]>
Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:23:49 -0400
I think there are 20+ charts telling you something else, you just need to find the graphs you like to find to approve your own estimates.

So if people now tell me that you need to be a good analyst and do your homework, how about this:

"recent price decline does not suggest any change in the upward trend of oil prices"

Why should any decline not suggest any change upward ....

One always needs to analyse sentences, sometimes they are packed in great articles, and everybody tends to just take it as given.]]>
I Was Wrong About GM Bankruptcy http://seekingalpha.com/article/147296-i-was-wrong-about-gm-bankruptcy?source=feed#comment-578940 578940 But don't forget, all the old minds and habits are still there. I have seen this in CEE many times, old state companies that where taken private in the 1990's still work in their old fashion, due to management, development, production etc. still working according to their habits. It takes generations for change, and not just a few weeks.
Keep good track on what is going on, since a few years ahead you might see GM in the news again. And please don't tell me the US is significantly different in this. I have read a lot about the history of GM, Unions, management etc.]]>
Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:38:35 -0400 But don't forget, all the old minds and habits are still there. I have seen this in CEE many times, old state companies that where taken private in the 1990's still work in their old fashion, due to management, development, production etc. still working according to their habits. It takes generations for change, and not just a few weeks.
Keep good track on what is going on, since a few years ahead you might see GM in the news again. And please don't tell me the US is significantly different in this. I have read a lot about the history of GM, Unions, management etc.]]>