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  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    Again, I ask, what is your personal vendetta to bring down these local nutrition clubs. You said yourself you used to be a distributor and now you say you know these people personally, so why are you trying to harm them? And if everyone in this country worried about doing something for the benefit of others like offering a FREE fitness class because they may get sued then no one would do anything. Like I said before, there are uncertified people teaching classes all over the place, if they get sued then thats their problem, not yours, at least they are trying to help people get active. What do you expect the people commenting on this forum to do? Take your videos and go straight to Herbalife with complaints about Nutrition clubs in one town in this country? And how do you know that Herbalife hasn't already contacted these Nutrition Clubs? What exactly are you trying to get done? I'm more concerned with Bill Ackman and his drones manipulating the media enough to hurt my business and Herbalife in general, I'm not concerned about a club in New Mexico that doesn't close its curtains!?
    Mar 22, 2013. 12:29 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    I didn't see an invite for me but I'm down for a few beers with the guys, I've been trying to get Matt to come to one of our events for a while now. I'll bring along some samples of various Herbalife products for everyone to try....
    Mar 22, 2013. 10:52 AM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    Your still focusing on things with a personal vendetta that we have yet to hear about. There are unlicensed and uncertified people teaching classes all over this country..... my local parks a rec has average runners teaching a couch to 5k program with no certification, there is a yoga studio in town that has a huge following and no one is certified to teach it... come on, quit focusing on the negatives, you don't have to be certified to get people up and moving and introducing healthy active lifestyles. And as far as retailing products out of the club, how do you know that it was club product and not a personal coaches product. Your focusing on rules that are meant to protect all distributors and that are enforced by Herbalife themselves, there is nothing anyone here can do about that and they are not doing anything illegal or against local regulation. The only thing you can do is exactly what you've already done and go directly to Herbalife, they will handle it, they take these claims very seriously. Coming on this website will not help your crusade to take down a couple local nutrition clubs.
    Mar 22, 2013. 10:34 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    I have never ever heard of a branch president and of course it's multi level marketing, no one is denying that. I signed up as a distributor at 25% discount, worked my way to 50% and then further up the marketing plan without EVER buying product up front, EVER!
    Mar 22, 2013. 10:17 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    Yes....
    Mar 21, 2013. 04:56 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    By comparing Herbalife to Bernie Madoff you are in essence comparing me to Bernie Madoff. I am an independent distributor and every single one of my customers would tell you that they are satisfied with what I do and what I offer to our community. I don't screw anyone or tell them they can make big bucks in Herbalife, I run my business ethically and morally. Those who join as distributors start off small and work their way up. Those who start off as customers ALWAYS enjoy the product and some eventually either lose weight or become discounted customers. I have had ZERO complaints about my nutrition club. This is Herbalife, this is the way all my fellow distributors do things and what your doing is attacking hardworking Americans who do this business the way it is intended. There are millions of us and we will not give up on our hard work because you intend to manipulate whats is going on for your own personal gain. Get out of the office, get out from behind the desk and join us to really get a sense of whats going on.
    Mar 21, 2013. 02:47 PM | 8 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    Where is the video of all the FREE fitness classes and fit camps that they put in on Las Cruces. Your town is the perfect example of how this company promotes healthy active lifestyles.

    Your focusing on very minor nutrition club rules and I'm confused by it.... It is fine to retail product from a club as long as they are being retailed by a specific distributor and not the club itself, we open our shades at certain times during the day if only one female will be working insides (this is strictly a safety issue). Encouraging someone to go to supervisor is encouraging them to get straight to 50% retail, which I personally do not promote or push but is standard practice among those who are interested. Those in lower income areas cannot afford this to begin with. There is clearly more going on then you are showing which is again manipulation of the truth. Why don't you go out and video tape all the people getting healthy and attending free fitness classes?
    Mar 21, 2013. 12:09 PM | 8 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    Which crusade would that be Matt? Since your a short seller and have a short position in HLF, this crusade you speak of is to benefit your wallet, nothing else.......
    Mar 21, 2013. 11:27 AM | 10 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    If my Herbalife business wasn't so busy selling products to END CONSUMERS then I would have time to write a really long article about Herbalife from the distributors perspective but it seems only the manipulators and short sellers have the time to write ridiculous articles and gamble their money away on bogus media and market manipulation.
    Mar 21, 2013. 10:57 AM | 15 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Is Herbalife A Pyramid Scheme? ¿Quien Sabe? [View article]
    The real question here is whether or not the products fall into the hands of an end consumer and I can tell you from personal experience that it does. There is NO requirement to buy products up front and retail them, any distributor can sell products and have them shipped directly to the consumer or to themselves. Your opinions are completely biased and do not reflect the reality of what is going on with distributors throughout the country. Despite the rate of "churn", most distributors are simply discounted customers, which you already know and are distorting those numbers. The others who drop out are simply doing so because MLM's are not for them but they should have hardly any money invested and if they are really at the very bottom of the poverty level then they would have no money to invest to begin with. Come join me for a week at my nutrition club and ill show you how this business helps people on a daily basis. This is the new Herbalife that promotes healthy active lifestyles and does so much more than signing up new distributors, you would know that if your research involved actually research out with us average folks..
    Mar 21, 2013. 10:33 AM | 16 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife: 5 Common Sense Arguments [View article]
    Wow Matt..... 17 Herbalife articles in 3 months... I leave for maybe a month because my Herbalife business is so out of control and I haven't had time.... I come back, and BAM! Matt Stewart has written like 6 more articles..... From what I've seen in the last 2 or 3 months is that my business as well as my town and my fellow distributors are having a huge increase for the first quarter. The same thing goes for the state, everyone I know is doing great! Losing weight, getting healthy, making money! If the same thing can be said around the world (you know it can) then your short is going to get even worse! I hope Ackman is covering it for you. Have fun, hope you can make it to one of our events soon, would love to sit down and chat!
    Mar 18, 2013. 12:36 PM | 7 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Are Herbalife's Nutrition Clubs Operating In Violation Of The Law? [View article]
    Researching what exactly? Ackmans power points, that does take a long time.... sitting in your office typing on the keyboard? Have you talked to current and former distributors, been to multiple nutrition clubs, sat in on an Herbalife event, or talked to the hundreds of thousands of satisfied customers who had good results from the products? I see them everyday, and I don't have to sit behind a desk. You can spend a LOT of time researching, but if its only one sided research then your thesis, and your short, will fail.
    Feb 8, 2013. 12:48 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Are Herbalife's Nutrition Clubs Operating In Violation Of The Law? [View article]
    Don't assume hudget. None of these short sellers have any proof and merely speculate. I never guarantee anyone they will succeed in this business and I actually recommend that the average person NOT buy a large amount of products before they realize whether or not they can sell them. It does take a very special person and a very dedicated person to climb up in an MLM, some people have it and some don't, but remember that it only costs 68 bucks to get started with Herbalife, not a big number. The majority of people that start in Herbalife make back enough money to cover what they have spent and move on because they realize it is not for them, and the majority would recommend it to someone else, how do you explain that? This isnt that hard to understand, you assume that all distributors have no morals and use bs tactics to drain low income for every penny and then move on without any proof that this occurs, although I can tell you from experience that we care about everyone who signs up and do our best to help them succeed, and those that don't succeed still come into our club and enjoy a shake from time to time.
    Feb 8, 2013. 12:31 PM | 5 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Are Herbalife's Nutrition Clubs Operating In Violation Of The Law? [View article]
    Sure, although I would like to point out that all of these questions have been answered before on this site with the other 15 articles written by Matt Stewart.

    1. Corporate has never traveled to inspect my club but we were required to send pictures that show we are conforming to their regulations. We also have had other club owners with more experience come in and tell us things that should be changed.
    2. We spent roughly 5k to open our club with a little more put aside in case we did not immediately hit our daily numbers.
    3. We have between 15 and 35 customers a day.
    4. Our overhead is as low as possible because the club is run to break even, we don't make any money off of it and it is used as a tool to introduce the community to the Herbalife products. My money is made mostly from retail sales and downline distributors who also use the club.
    5. Herbalife asks us to block out the windows because they don't want the product to be considered strictly retail products, they like having independent distributors and don't want distributors without a club to think they are at a disadvantage. I don't mind this because I can promote my business as so much more than just selling products because we spend so much time on free events, like fit camps, and weight loss challenges. Having a club though adds validity to your business because you aren't meeting people at your home or at another retail establishment to sell your products....
    6. Yes, it is strange, but I don't consider this a big deal, just trying to protect the product.
    Feb 8, 2013. 12:17 PM | 7 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Are Herbalife's Nutrition Clubs Operating In Violation Of The Law? [View article]
    If you are having trouble sleeping, I have 2 wonderful products made by Herbalife that can help, please see a local independent distributor if you don't already have one.
    Feb 8, 2013. 12:03 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
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