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  • Tesla: Is The 'Bubble' About To Burst? Shorts Will Finally Be Rewarded [View article]
    studies 'funded by big oil' ?
    Could you give us a sampling ?
    Aug 15, 2014. 08:44 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla, Are We About To Be Surprised? [View article]
    how many stops ?
    Jul 25, 2014. 08:22 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    You are right BadDog40. Sorry, no more.
    Notice how many more comments cparmerlee (molli) has made - like diarrhea of the mouth - and always calling people names and espousing the virtues of radical Marxism. She hates anything with an "R" behind it, or that doesn't criticize capitalism or conservatives.
    All we Cs are trying to do is conserve the greatest country ever known to mankind, and capitalism has done much more good for us than not (by a long shot).
    Yeah, I'm done. libs can stew in their unhappy little world while they dream of capitalism collapsing. That's really what they want you know.
    A centralized, all powerful government can better control America - and of course with them in charge.
    Jul 18, 2014. 10:36 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    "liberalism - the religion of envy and illogic"

    liberalism - the religion of envy, and illogic, and irrational hatred

    Really unhappy, hate-filled people. Reminds me of a sign I often see in rural areas: 'don't complain with your mouth full'
    Jul 16, 2014. 09:32 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    OMG, even more government control ?
    Like in put them in charge of all healthcare (VA scandals), or even building a website, IRS corruption, Fast and Furious, Benghazi (what difference does it make? they're dead), border security, , ,

    The filthy rich (you know the ones who supply most of the jobs - we can't all work for the money-printers)
    top 1% of taxpayers pay 36.7% of all income taxes
    top 10% pay 58.7%
    top 50% pay 97.7
    bottom 50% pay only 2.3% (and millions get back more than they paid in)
    And YOU want them to pay even more !

    liberalism - the religion of envy and illogic

    google "liberal logic images"
    and "liberalism images"

    Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life. Give a man someone else's fish and he will vote for you!
    Jul 16, 2014. 07:59 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    "people who are looking to build FCEVs are ignoramus's."
    Never said that. Would I be calling my fellow engineers ignoramuses?

    DOE, EPA, DOState, HomeLandSecurity, , , ?
    35 years of ethanol subsidies - now mandates, even more years of solar, , ,
    DOE, EPA, , , are politically driven entities. Yes, led by current crop of ignoramuses. Do I need to say more ?

    FCs have a max theoretical efficiencies just like ICEs, and then practical efficiencies (read your own article).
    But you continue to ignore the reforming, distribution, and storage efficiencies of what would be needed for FCHEVs (which make them not much better than an ICE burning NG).

    You also have ignored my question of how you would get the H2 from the Fountain Valley sewage plant to Santa Barbara ( only 128 miles ENE, albeit traffic, mountains, earthquake faults, lots of stuff already there - endangered beetles mice and owls etc. , , )

    Earlier you said you can just stick up to 30% H2 into existing NG lines.
    Do you have a source for that ?
    my 2pence analogy: Let's say the pipe was made of window screen. The NG is marbles, and the H2 is sand.

    But also no one has brought up the subject of hydrogen embrittlement.
    I was hoping for you to address that also.

    Sure, even molli has faith that engineers can work out all the technical details.
    And I have no problem with Toyota and Honda and GM experimenting with whatever they want. If I don't like what they do, I won't buy their stock. (btw: I sold my Tesla stock)

    But is it really worth tacking on billions of more national debt to build an infrastructure in parallel with what we already have, for cars that may or may not be the future ?
    And yes, NG in parallel has a great use as a source of heat (process, home heating, cooking - electric sucks at this - greek symbol Nu).

    Electric doesn't just go to my garage. It goes to where I work, the shopping mall, the strip club, , ,
    Jul 15, 2014. 07:38 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    No, I'm not an engine expert, but as an engineer working in the automotive industry, I do subscribe to several automotive industry magazines and journals. And I don't follow NG so closely. But as far as I know, no one has built a ground-up engine optimized for NG; so far. They're all what you'd call a conversion.

    You should have gotten the gist of my heartburn by now. I'm against the government blowing billions on infrastructure for hydrogen, when we already have the infrastructure for electric.

    After about 130 years of manufacture; EVs just passed 1/2 a million worldwide (out of about 1 billion total cars presently on the road).

    How many FCHEVs are there on the roads worldwide ? Hundreds ?
    And you want billions printed to support FCHEVs ?
    Jul 14, 2014. 02:28 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    "And, if an ignorant person becomes a representative and fails to be a good representative, they usually find themselves out of a job at the next election because their competitors make hay of their mistakes."

    And if the electorate is even stupider than the person they elected ?

    NINJA's causing the housing and mortgage industry collapse.
    You got that right.
    The federal government pressured the banks to make these loans. Mortgage companies weren't even allowed to check immigration status. Still aren't. And standards are almost right back where we were in 2008.

    Jul 14, 2014. 01:48 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    "even allowing for reforming and compression losses."

    But Dave, you didn't allow for reforming or compression losses.
    Or losses when in transit, or storage.

    Like I said days ago; using NG to reform H2 for a FCHEV, and all of its associated losses; is almost a push
    compared to just burning the damn NG in an ICE engine.

    (And no one has ever optimized an ICE for burning NG. No, no one has yet to design an engine specifically for NG.
    But with our glut of NG, it seems an opportune time to do so.)


    A FCHEV is just an EV with a very expensive and complex (and maybe even more dangerous) on-board energy storage and conversion system.

    And I already have the infrastructure in my garage for an EV.
    Jul 14, 2014. 10:59 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    PP got $540.6 Million in government funding in FY2013.

    Libs always ask why conservatives are always against tax increases ?

    ans: Simply, cause if we give you more, you'll just blow more.
    When are you ever going to cut something ?
    Jul 14, 2014. 10:14 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    Dave, I could give you a list of at least 50 govment prognostications in the past 20 years that you even make you laugh,,, or cry.
    And asinine mandates like in 1993 that 10% of all cars sold in California would be electric by 1998. Yes, the original mandate was 1998.

    (and you probably think the CARB mandates sped EV development? I could give you a good argument for the reverse. I was there.)

    But back to FCs. OK, let's say FV (Fountain Valley) sewage could provide enough hydrogen for 200 Million, no let's make it easy - say 20,000 FCHEVs.
    You would not have one bf filling station in FV; so how you would propose transporting your H2 to let's say Santa Barbara (99 miles from LA - a song) ???
    Jul 13, 2014. 02:43 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    molli, you have drank the cool aide; and as typical - everything azzbackwards.

    You are darn straight I don't want to pay for your car, your healthcare, your bc pills and rubbers and abort, the legal defense of people that broke into our country, your cellphone , , ,

    And yes, the bill is too high. Government has proven to always underestimate costs. Then chunk in fraud, waste, abuse, gross amounts of overhead, bonuses for surfing porn, and levels of corruption never before seen in this country . . .
    has resulted in $1+Trillion/year deficits and even more worrisome; the digital printing of money at the FED that will in high probability result in hyperinflation very soon. And your heroes (like kerry, algore, and b.o.) think CO2 is a bigger threat to us than terrorism, and the economy is not even on their lists. Idiots.

    and this EPA employee got a bonus last year !
    I repeat - Idiots
    Jul 13, 2014. 02:04 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    I googled "orange county hydrogen"
    "orange county sanitation district hydrogen" popped up, I clicked.

    "Hydrogen for 200 million vehicles" was third from the top. I read the top five; and had nothing but questions from all of their fuzzy numbers as I listed before.
    Wow, are they going to fill 200,000,000 vehicles in Fountain Valley ?

    Sorry. Sure seems like the irrational exuberance I witnessed from salivating over all news of EVs from 1988 to ~2008 when I started to lose interest in cars with leashes. I drove nothing but electrics for about three of those years - at my employers expense. Plugging-in every time I got out of the vehicle was . . .
    I have also pushed many, but still think EVs are the future of transportation.
    Someday we'll have a great battery - butloads of capacity, zap charging, several decades of life until significant degradation, super safe, and dirt cheap.
    I'm looking forward to it.

    It will leave FuelishCellHybridElect... as a footnote in the history of government subsidized foolishness.

    You said; "The private sector is certainly not going to put up the money to build a hydrogen infrastructure "
    Yes. The foolish waste of money by the government cannot be equaled by private industry (private industry has to balance books or go out of biz).

    Remember above where I said there were more charging stations in SoCal that there were EVs in the late 1990s ?
    Everyone of those were built with govmo$; all obsolete now
    and that was before we started racking up $1T+ deficits every year and digitally creating $85B per month in the backroom at the FED.

    The future of fuel cells is in stationary applications at best.
    don't raise your blood pressure
    Jul 12, 2014. 08:18 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]

    "Hydrogen for 200 million vehicles" hmmm ?
    I can understand your irrational exuberance with headlines like that.

    I looked at three different articles about the water treatment plant. Interesting. Thanks for the link.

    One place it says it makes 100kg of H2 for every 250kw ???
    (I don't get the mix of units)
    Another it says it can service the needs of 25-50 FCEVs per day.
    ( pretty good! but that is fuzzy data also )

    I worked in EV development from 1988 to 2012. Over the years, I choked at all kinds of hype from all sorts of what you would consider very reliable and extremely knowledgeable sources. btw: I decided no more, cause it got to be nomofun

    Just think, if we all drove <30mpg cars; the US would not have to import any more oil, and we'd pretty much halve our pollutant output - even dastardly CO2 if you want to call your exhale a pollutant.

    btw2: I hate diesels, and think they're a move in the wrong direction.
    As much as most of you hate gas-powered cars - they'll continue to be much cleaner than the cleanest diesels, and will soon match the efficiency.

    gotta go have some fun - the sky will soon fall
    Jul 12, 2014. 02:43 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Fuel Cell Threat [View article]
    Anyone that is for raising fuel taxes, without even doing an investigation as to why what we now collect can't get the job done;
    should run for congress or the presidency.
    You'd fit right in.
    Jul 12, 2014. 12:12 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment