How Bloomberg Fabricates U.S. Housing Numbers [View article]
Amazing but true
NO One on this thread actually read the article and understands the numbers. That actual number of excess units- housing vacant above trend- is a fraction of this large number
Three items make up the 19 MM - vacant for sale, vacant for rent ( including apartments) and seasonal (second homes). About 1/3 of the total comes from each.
Seasonal homes by definition aren't excess - they don't compete for primary occupancy in most markets. In this kind of world many will try to dump the beach house or Vail condo, and prices for second homes are very soft- just like in any recession. But that really doesn't directly affect most primary housing markets.
On for rent (apartments) nation vacancy is about 7.3% , or about 2% over what owners would like. Say that means 1 MM excess housing units.
On for sale most analysts would say that that the current vacancy rate is about 2x the norm - say another 1 MM excess units
19 MM really means 2 MM excess - about 1/2 year of gross demand. A problem - true - but not a cataclysm
Low Home Ownership Rate Hurting the Economy [View article]
The long term demand for new housing is estimated at about 1.5-1.7 MM units a year based on household formation and obsolescence. That is both for sale and rental
Look at the Harvard Center for Housing website and their annual analysis.
For several years d uring the boom production was well above this number. At least 1-2 years supply was built ahead of fundamental demand.
Production has been below the long term level since late 2006- reversion to the mean. At some point there will be production back to or above the mean - or people will be underhoused.
We May See Mortgage Rates Fall to 3.5% [View article]
By most measures housing pricing in most markets is now at a reasonble level vs. income - of course after a catastrophic decline . Add the lower rates, and why not buy?
Mortgage Cramdowns: A Disaster in the Making [View article]
see Sajinnc-
The ONLY exception to cramdown is a homeowner after the credit card company sponsored bankruptcy update . Any owner of any other asset with secured debt can get a cram down on a plan filing
A cramdown option may ulimately be in everyone's best interest - the lender takes a lesser hit on the loan vs. foreclosure , the homeowner keeps the house with a supportable liability structure ( a lower price paid for the asset) , neighborhoods remain more stable , and the govt has to deal with fewer foreclosed assets as part of GSE support
If Insiders Are Unloading, Why Is BIDZ.Com Buying Back Shares? [View article]
It has been known to happen that stock buybacks are timed to support the scheduled insider selling. Can't really prove it in many cases...but the insiders can sell as the company is executing buybacks that support stock price
I know 2 well established veteran and competent CA real estate agents ( not newbies that got their licenses at the tail end of the boom) that had their best years ever last year, and are doing even better this year. They are making up in volume what they lost in price
Data (not self serving anecdote) say that in better CA real estate markets resale supply is less than 5 months, in some cases as low as 3 months, sales. This is different than FL and NV and AZ. Multiple bids on well located entry or first move up houses have become the norm. Many sell for better than list. Affordablity is at a generational high
Check Data quick if you don't believe me
More foreclosure are hitting the market, but sales rates thus far this year are keeping up. After the summer.....who knows?
Housing: Objects in the Mirror May Appear Closer than They Are [View article]
National single family starts are actually well below 400k
In S California there is less than 3 months listed supply at lower price levels in better markets. Multiple offers and aggressive bid ups over list have become the norm for better properties. Sales rate have been sufficient to counter balance new foreclosure inventory. It costs less to own than to rent in many cases. Since those are the facts, why hasn't the so called shadow inventory flooded the market ?
Why Falling U.S. Housing Values Are Good News [View article]
96-97 was a trough after the last 89-91 crash. 2002-03 nominal values represent pre bubble values adjusted for inflation. We are there - that's why prices have risen in many markets since April
U.S. Housing: Round Trip to Pre-Bubble Prices Underway [View article]
or in some markets 2003 nominal ( not real) values. In other words we are there in much of the US
rent/value, income/value, supply/demand (measured as listed months supply ) also say the same thing. Almost no newly contructed supply is entering the market, esp as a ratio of long term demographic demand .
However, more income compression due to labor market conditions and the dribble out of the gradual resolution of defaults may push values down further, or at least limit appreciation from these levels
Builders have reacted to the depleted inventory ( both new and existing) in more attractive markets by bidding up finished lots in good locations. One of the consequences - the local and regional private builders will continue to lose share over the repair cycle
BTW that's' exactly what happened during the 90s recovery
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How Bloomberg Fabricates U.S. Housing Numbers [View article]
NO One on this thread actually read the article and understands the numbers. That actual number of excess units- housing vacant above trend- is a fraction of this large number
Three items make up the 19 MM - vacant for sale, vacant for rent ( including apartments) and seasonal (second homes). About 1/3 of the total comes from each.
Seasonal homes by definition aren't excess - they don't compete for primary occupancy in most markets. In this kind of world many will try to dump the beach house or Vail condo, and prices for second homes are very soft- just like in any recession. But that really doesn't directly affect most primary housing markets.
On for rent (apartments) nation vacancy is about 7.3% , or about 2% over what owners would like. Say that means 1 MM excess housing units.
On for sale most analysts would say that that the current vacancy rate is about 2x the norm - say another 1 MM excess units
19 MM really means 2 MM excess - about 1/2 year of gross demand. A problem - true - but not a cataclysm
Low Home Ownership Rate Hurting the Economy [View article]
Look at the Harvard Center for Housing website and their annual analysis.
For several years d uring the boom production was well above this number. At least 1-2 years supply was built ahead of fundamental demand.
Production has been below the long term level since late 2006- reversion to the mean. At some point there will be production back to or above the mean - or people will be underhoused.
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Dohhh!
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Fear.....
Mortgage Cramdowns: A Disaster in the Making [View article]
The ONLY exception to cramdown is a homeowner after the credit card company sponsored bankruptcy update . Any owner of any other asset with secured debt can get a cram down on a plan filing
A cramdown option may ulimately be in everyone's best interest - the lender takes a lesser hit on the loan vs. foreclosure , the homeowner keeps the house with a supportable liability structure ( a lower price paid for the asset) , neighborhoods remain more stable , and the govt has to deal with fewer foreclosed assets as part of GSE support
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Data (not self serving anecdote) say that in better CA real estate markets resale supply is less than 5 months, in some cases as low as 3 months, sales. This is different than FL and NV and AZ. Multiple bids on well located entry or first move up houses have become the norm. Many sell for better than list. Affordablity is at a generational high
Check Data quick if you don't believe me
More foreclosure are hitting the market, but sales rates thus far this year are keeping up. After the summer.....who knows?
Housing: Objects in the Mirror May Appear Closer than They Are [View article]
In S California there is less than 3 months listed supply at lower price levels in better markets. Multiple offers and aggressive bid ups over list have become the norm for better properties. Sales rate have been sufficient to counter balance new foreclosure inventory. It costs less to own than to rent in many cases. Since those are the facts, why hasn't the so called shadow inventory flooded the market ?
The upper end end is a very different story
Why Falling U.S. Housing Values Are Good News [View article]
U.S. Housing: Round Trip to Pre-Bubble Prices Underway [View article]
rent/value, income/value, supply/demand (measured as listed months supply ) also say the same thing. Almost no newly contructed supply is entering the market, esp as a ratio of long term demographic demand .
However, more income compression due to labor market conditions and the dribble out of the gradual resolution of defaults may push values down further, or at least limit appreciation from these levels
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BTW that's' exactly what happened during the 90s recovery
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What are the grant dates of the options he exercised? If you can answer that you may have a point.
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On May 01 02:07 PM Naufal Sanaullah wrote:
> Market is up about 2.5% since April 9.