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      <title>Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents?</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1452911/comments?source=feed#comment-19112821</link>
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        <![CDATA[I would note that the other district court case you cite are not 'precedent.'  Judge Jackson is not obligated to follow them like he would a Federal Circuit case.  But he can still look to the district court cases for guidance.]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 09:28:03 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I would note that the other district court case you cite are not 'precedent.'  Judge Jackson is not obligated to follow them like he would a Federal Circuit case.  But he can still look to the district court cases for guidance.]]>
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      <title>Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1393911/comments?source=feed#comment-18403191</link>
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        <![CDATA[I don't think your analysis is bad per se, but the way you write in these articles consistently makes me question whether you are a lawyer as you claim to be.  It seems like every article, there are certain words or phrases you use that make me say out loud &quot;No real lawyer talks like that.&quot;  And I'm not talking about typos either.<br/><br/>For example, real lawyers wouldn't publish something repeatedly referring to a judge by just their first and/or last name.  Any lawyer with even a morsel of litigation experience knows that &quot;overruled&quot; is not spelled &quot;over-ruled.&quot;  <br/><br/>These aren't big deals or even noticeable to the lay reader, but to me, it puts your supposed qualifications in doubt.]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 10:45:32 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I don't think your analysis is bad per se, but the way you write in these articles consistently makes me question whether you are a lawyer as you claim to be.  It seems like every article, there are certain words or phrases you use that make me say out loud &quot;No real lawyer talks like that.&quot;  And I'm not talking about typos either.<br/><br/>For example, real lawyers wouldn't publish something repeatedly referring to a judge by just their first and/or last name.  Any lawyer with even a morsel of litigation experience knows that &quot;overruled&quot; is not spelled &quot;over-ruled.&quot;  <br/><br/>These aren't big deals or even noticeable to the lay reader, but to me, it puts your supposed qualifications in doubt.]]>
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      <title>Vringo May Be Vetting A Buyer</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1316901/comments?source=feed#comment-17162201</link>
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        <![CDATA[I like the article overall, but have a problem with this statement:  &quot;Vringo counsels Dickstein Shapiro are litigators who want to litigate, and at upwards of $1,000 an hour granting timeouts amounts to giving away the advantage.&quot;<br/><br/>Are you implying that Vringo has to pay $1,000/hour for the duration of the 60 days?  Yeah, litigators may want to litigate, but they also work at the whim of their client, and if their client wants to take a 60 day timeout, then that's what Dickstein Shapiro will do.<br/><br/>And how does that give away any advantage?]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:18:03 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I like the article overall, but have a problem with this statement:  &quot;Vringo counsels Dickstein Shapiro are litigators who want to litigate, and at upwards of $1,000 an hour granting timeouts amounts to giving away the advantage.&quot;<br/><br/>Are you implying that Vringo has to pay $1,000/hour for the duration of the 60 days?  Yeah, litigators may want to litigate, but they also work at the whim of their client, and if their client wants to take a 60 day timeout, then that's what Dickstein Shapiro will do.<br/><br/>And how does that give away any advantage?]]>
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      <title>Did Vringo Traders Overreact To Google's Flip Flop?</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1095131/comments?source=feed#comment-13307571</link>
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        <![CDATA[So this guy says his &quot;jaw dropped&quot; in his 1/3 article when he realized Google conceded a running royalty, and now says that a running royalty is merely worth a share price of $3.15-3.25 for Vringo, up from $2.90?  How does that make any sense??]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 12:42:14 -0500</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[So this guy says his &quot;jaw dropped&quot; in his 1/3 article when he realized Google conceded a running royalty, and now says that a running royalty is merely worth a share price of $3.15-3.25 for Vringo, up from $2.90?  How does that make any sense??]]>
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      <title>Will Patent Office Eliminate Vringo's Right To Future Royalties From Google?</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1062291/comments?source=feed#comment-12561511</link>
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        <![CDATA[Let's be clear.  Dan is not an umpire calling balls and strikes.  Dan writes this article making it seem as though he's giving an unbiased analysis of the Vringo-Google case.  But it's clear this article is very biased (owing to Dan's stated short position).  Dan presents all of Google's forthcoming motions and arguments with the utmost legitimacy and strength, while acting as if Vringo has little chance of success.  It's a fair opinion, but it's biased.]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:43:27 -0500</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Let's be clear.  Dan is not an umpire calling balls and strikes.  Dan writes this article making it seem as though he's giving an unbiased analysis of the Vringo-Google case.  But it's clear this article is very biased (owing to Dan's stated short position).  Dan presents all of Google's forthcoming motions and arguments with the utmost legitimacy and strength, while acting as if Vringo has little chance of success.  It's a fair opinion, but it's biased.]]>
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      <title>What Is Vringo Worth?</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/910491/comments?source=feed#comment-10286921</link>
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        <![CDATA[James, you mention MSFT as possibly the next major player in Vringo's sights.  Are we sure that MSFT is thought to be infringing Vringo's patents?  Are you assuming this because the Bing search engine works like Google?]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:43:10 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[James, you mention MSFT as possibly the next major player in Vringo's sights.  Are we sure that MSFT is thought to be infringing Vringo's patents?  Are you assuming this because the Bing search engine works like Google?]]>
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      <title>Could Vringo Be Apple's 'Thermonuclear' Option Against Google?</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/848511/comments?source=feed#comment-9125341</link>
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        <![CDATA[This is the most rambling, backed-up-by-no-facts speculation article I've read in a long time.]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:57:05 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[This is the most rambling, backed-up-by-no-facts speculation article I've read in a long time.]]>
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      <title>Apple Sanctioned In VirnetX Patent Case For Obstructing 'Unfavorable Testimony'</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/794601/comments?source=feed#comment-8297701</link>
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        <![CDATA[&quot;There are 30 citations of prior art in the granted '045 patent, going back to 1998. VHC's '135 patent is not included in that list so you can assume Apple's patent attorneys and the USPTO did not find it relevant to the claims in the '045 patent.&quot;<br/><br/>As a patent attorney, this is just not true.  Just because the USPTO did not cite a certain prior art reference is not an assertion that the PTO did not find it relevant.  All it means is that the PTO never considered that reference.  Relevance has nothing to do with it.  The PTO overlooks references all the time.  That's why we have re-examinations.]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:45:33 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[&quot;There are 30 citations of prior art in the granted '045 patent, going back to 1998. VHC's '135 patent is not included in that list so you can assume Apple's patent attorneys and the USPTO did not find it relevant to the claims in the '045 patent.&quot;<br/><br/>As a patent attorney, this is just not true.  Just because the USPTO did not cite a certain prior art reference is not an assertion that the PTO did not find it relevant.  All it means is that the PTO never considered that reference.  Relevance has nothing to do with it.  The PTO overlooks references all the time.  That's why we have re-examinations.]]>
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      <title>Apple Sanctioned In VirnetX Patent Case For Obstructing 'Unfavorable Testimony'</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/794601/comments?source=feed#comment-8260111</link>
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        <![CDATA[It's perfectly reasonable to ask the Apple engineer his thoughts on the VirnetX patent.  The comment regarding the USPTO being the decider if a patent application infringes does not apply here.  Apple is not trying at this point to get its patent application allowed.  The engineer is in a position to read a patent claim and give an opinion as to whether that reads on his product.  You don't have to be a patent lawyer to do that.]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:11:36 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[It's perfectly reasonable to ask the Apple engineer his thoughts on the VirnetX patent.  The comment regarding the USPTO being the decider if a patent application infringes does not apply here.  Apple is not trying at this point to get its patent application allowed.  The engineer is in a position to read a patent claim and give an opinion as to whether that reads on his product.  You don't have to be a patent lawyer to do that.]]>
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      <title>VirnetX: Do You Believe In Fairytales? Part 2</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/786681/comments?source=feed#comment-8178781</link>
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        <![CDATA[acz600, your comment with respect to McKool Smith has a lot of flaws.  First off, being in the patent law community, I've never heard of it as being the &quot;top technology patent law firm.&quot;  Second, most patent infringement cases are not taken by firms on a contingency basis.  Law firms (most often) get paid by the hour for their work.  They would &quot;waste their time and resources&quot; because they would still get paid even if VHC loses, regardless of what they personally think about the value of the VHC patents.<br/><br/>That being said, I believe highly in the value of VHC patents, just not for the reasons mentioned in your comment.]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:09:55 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[acz600, your comment with respect to McKool Smith has a lot of flaws.  First off, being in the patent law community, I've never heard of it as being the &quot;top technology patent law firm.&quot;  Second, most patent infringement cases are not taken by firms on a contingency basis.  Law firms (most often) get paid by the hour for their work.  They would &quot;waste their time and resources&quot; because they would still get paid even if VHC loses, regardless of what they personally think about the value of the VHC patents.<br/><br/>That being said, I believe highly in the value of VHC patents, just not for the reasons mentioned in your comment.]]>
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      <title>Google Settlement Could Drive Vringo Shares Above $30</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/739841/comments?source=feed#comment-7670771</link>
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        <![CDATA[While I generally agree with the overall premise of the article, I have issues with this statement:<br/><br/>&quot;One extremely important fact for shareholders is that Donald Stout was an examiner at the US patent office, and he knows patents like very few attorneys ever could.&quot;<br/><br/>I don't doubt that Mr. Stout is a very knowledgeable and competent attorney.  However, simply being a (former) patent examiner does not in itself make one some sort of superior expert when it comes to patents, as the article suggests.  Patent Examiners are often hired straight out of undergrad and given a few months of training on patent laws before they begin examining patent applications.  Their work is thoroughly scrutinized by supervisory examiners before being published.  Many patent examiners leave after a year or two for law school, graduate school, or law firms without ever obtaining the in-depth knowledge and experience that would make them understand patents &quot;like few attorneys ever could.&quot;  <br/><br/>Mr. Stout might have obtained this level of knowledge from his days working at the patent office, but I wouldn't just assume it to risk exaggerating his credentials. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:35:48 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[While I generally agree with the overall premise of the article, I have issues with this statement:<br/><br/>&quot;One extremely important fact for shareholders is that Donald Stout was an examiner at the US patent office, and he knows patents like very few attorneys ever could.&quot;<br/><br/>I don't doubt that Mr. Stout is a very knowledgeable and competent attorney.  However, simply being a (former) patent examiner does not in itself make one some sort of superior expert when it comes to patents, as the article suggests.  Patent Examiners are often hired straight out of undergrad and given a few months of training on patent laws before they begin examining patent applications.  Their work is thoroughly scrutinized by supervisory examiners before being published.  Many patent examiners leave after a year or two for law school, graduate school, or law firms without ever obtaining the in-depth knowledge and experience that would make them understand patents &quot;like few attorneys ever could.&quot;  <br/><br/>Mr. Stout might have obtained this level of knowledge from his days working at the patent office, but I wouldn't just assume it to risk exaggerating his credentials. ]]>
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