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The Next Phase of the Crisis Is Beginning with an Eye on China

On Nov 29 11:37 AM TonyP4 wrote:

> * Extremes of Two Nations * [each nation is 2 extremes to itself]
>
> US and China are two countries of extremes to each other. It could
> be the difference in their cultures, their wealth, and/or changing
> of wealth. It would be best for both countries to move at least 10%
> away from their extremes.
>
> Spending.
> US. Like no tomorrow. [2 extremes. a lot has changed for some]
> China. Saving for fear of begging in the street. [again, for SOME]
>
> Health Care.
> US. Encourages folks to be lazy, so they get free health care.<br/>China.
> If you do not pay in yuan, you die.
>
> Foreign countries.
> US. Either my puppet or my enemy.
> China. Non interference. [HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !]
>
> Environment.
> US. Our pollution is not too high (translation: pollution per capita
> is).
> China. My pollution per capita is not high (translation: total pollution
> is).
>
> Human rights.
> US. Killing for the name of liberty! or keeping our weapon suppliers
> rich.
> China. Lifted 300 millions from poverty. Is this basic human right? [China=no weapons sales? & i guess you are too young to remeber the purges?]
>
>
> Military might.
> US. New carrier with two nuclear generators.
> China. 0 carrier. [so?]
>
> Justice system.
> US. Spent millions and let the guilty free.
> China. One bullet for 99.99% guilty and warn millions.
>
> Sports.
> US. #1 in all sports. Get them at all costs.
> China. Let's get 100 Walmart shoppers and have a race to see which
> nation is fitter. [Great idea. Our vicarious fitness, & many other virtueless virtuals.]
>
> Natural resources/farm land.
> US. Can support double the current population.
> China. Can support half the current population.
>
> Politics.
> US. Do everything for votes.
> Capitalists act like communists by providing generous welfare.<br/>China.
> If you do not listen, you disappear.
> Communists act like capitalists by giving prime priority to business. BOTH & each = vampirism of the middle classes to satiate the elite.]
>
>
> Education.
> US. We've most Nobel's prize winners. [including the Peace Postulation Prize.]
> China. Our 6th graders can beat your college graduates in science
> and maths.
>
> Model for youths.
> US. If you give me one good model, I give you 10 bad models (like
> married politicians with outside affairs).
> China. If you give me one bad model, I give you 10 good models.<br/>
>
> Gun control.
> US. Need guns for the wild, wild cities.
> China. Thanks NRA for allowing us to sell them to your citizens.
>
>
> View each other.
> US. Job snatcher, banker.
> China. Job provider, loaner.
>
> My ridicule.
> US. Nothing.
> China. Me and my ridicule 'evaporate' from earth.

Overall, thanks for the perspective.

World War III: U.S. vs. China?

"Your enemy cannot defeat you unless you become like them", but also one can not fight a war with so many traitors in the media. Look @ Iraq, where "torture" includes mutilation & beheading, or "pointing @ people's privates" (M Python, & the western press)
The time to argue is before the conflict. During it, the end is hastened by success.
So many theories, but life's not like that.

On Mar 12 01:27 PM Buckoux wrote:

> Then you were not the commander of a US naval combat vessel when you checked.
> What's the matter with you non-military types, Do you really believe the Hollywood stereotype about the military. I can speak for most military personal, enlisted and commissioned, and testify that we prefer peace much more than combat. The only caveat to that is that once a fight has started, it is our duty to go to the fight and win.
> Even if politicians, New York Media and Hollywood tie one hand behind our backs. Our burden is not only the battle, but the notion that we must win, "fair and square" in a "democratic way" in a short period of time, against an enemy that cheats, is totalitarian and has lots of time because it controls its own media.