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  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    That is correct today. There is currently not enouhg volume in LI batteries to support recycling.

    Bear in mind that Honda claims to be able to extract up to 80% of rare earth metals.

    http://tinyurl.com/7u7...

    I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that, as NiMH volume is replaced by Lithium Ion volume, that recycling will be extended to Lithium Ion batteries.

    "The two plan to extend the process to take in a widening variety of used parts, with Honda looking to reuse the extracted metals increasingly across its product range."

    http://tinyurl.com/cp8...
    May 5, 2012. 04:53 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    Honda has announced a battery recycling program. Maybe there are others JP is not aware of as well.
    May 4, 2012. 11:33 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    SMaturin:

    You are missing the whole point. The established manufacturers are following their traditional approach.

    They believe, since they've been doing it all along, that they actually are doing things right. Most of them are opting to reinvent the wheel themselves following their traditional models for R&D, design, and manufacture.

    The smart ones are partnering with Tesla, which will result in greatly reduced upfront expense.

    This is where Tesla is going to succeed, and traditional manufacturers, not so much.

    Tesla bought huge manufacturing capability at a big discount, they are economizing at every step of the way in designing and building out their production capability.

    Tesla’s vehicle platform combined with their design and production platform, and the economies that they have achieved will serve as a model for future automobile manufacturers.
    May 3, 2012. 03:40 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    Smaturin:

    The 1% are most likely not the ones buying EV, certainly not the only ones.

    What about the biggest Taxpayer Subsidy Rip Off to consumers of all time, The Oil Subsidies?
    May 3, 2012. 03:04 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    Naked jaybird:

    Tesla's goal is to produce an affordable under $30,000 vehicle. It's clearly stated that, while they are both evolutionary and revolutionary, the roadster, model S, the model X are means to an end.

    There are a lot of people who really love their toys.
    May 3, 2012. 02:31 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Confessions Of An EV Pioneer Turned Heretic [View article]
    John:

    You are nothing, if not predictable. Right on time with your Tesla gloom and doom report.

    You are still using yesterday's logic, details, and lack of insight to predict their future.

    Your math does not take into consideration the realities of today's average driver, or an electric vehicle driver in the present or future. Your average driver is based on a driver 15 years ago, or maybe in Europe. I have not driven under 12,000 miles per year for at least 25 years.

    One of our vehicles is a new Toyota pickup. It is driven at least 21,000 miles per year, and gets about 18 miles per gallon. That is 1167 gallons per year at minimum. Let's use four dollars a gallon. That gas costs $4667 per year.

    When I replace that vehicle with an electric vehicle, it will be charged from our solar array. There will be no cost, or environmental impact of the grid.

    Here is where your math really fails you. Those 21,000 miles a year take into consideration a conscious effort to not drive unnecessarily, and to plan trips to be as efficient as possible. This is for environmental concerns, cost effectiveness, and even some consideration to traffic.

    When I get an electric vehicle, I will pay $0.00 the electricity. I'm going to be prone to jump in that car a lot more than I have been. There really are a lot of places I want to go and things I wanted to do that. I have been tending to put off.

    Simply put, I'm going to drive a lot more once I get an electric vehicle. Even if I plugged into the wall the significant savings over gasoline would result in my driving more.

    Any driver who buys an electric vehicle is likely to be prone to driving more than they did with an ICE vehicle.

    You seem to be convinced that people plugging their EVs into the wall contains a significant amount of expense, both environmental and monetary. You are still using outdated information, and theory. As the grid gets cleaner, and it will, electric vehicles will continue to improve their value proposition.

    Anything burning gasoline will do the opposite.

    Your ramblings about the future cost of Tesla switching from building a factory to production line clearly indicate that you have no idea where Tesla currently is in that transition. You are also obviously not aware of the industry-leading design elements they are building into their production capability. You seem to have no idea of their expansion capability.

    You fail to take in the consideration that Tesla has long ago sold out its first production run without even having an advertising budget. No other car company, no matter how much bigger or well established, has come anywhere near doing this with any of their models.

    You also don't consider the boost in orders that will take place once the model S is on the road so people can test drive it and see their friends, neighbors and family driving it.

    I have seen the model S, and I'm going down to take another look at it later this week, just for you. I'd be happy to send you pictures or video if you like.

    Your projections of the expenses that Tesla still has ahead of them are totally baseless and incorrect. Yet you come off sounding as if you actually know what you're talking about. I don't have the time to do your research for you. I suggest that you research their current status before making such comments. You are about 6 to 9 months behind.

    GM, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Volvo, Mercedes, Rolls-Royce, Coda, Infinity, BMW, Fisker, and others are all building, or have announced plans to build electric vehicles.

    GE is making a significant, ongoing investment in the future of electric vehicles.

    The business realities of Tesla, and electric vehicles are obvious to anyone who bothers to research the current data rather than rely on outdated information and supposition.

    Tesla is nothing short of a game changer in the automobile industry, not just the EV industry. They are creating a production facility that will revolutionize the industry for a fraction of the expense that their counterparts are currently incurring.

    Nissan just broke ground for a production facility in the US designed to produce up to 150,000 Nissan Leafs per year. If you want to bash someone, do a little research into how much that's going to cost Nissan. Factor in their development costs, advertising budget and compare that against their sales. Consider all that expense for vehicle that is EPA rated at 73 miles range per charge. Now you've got basis for legitimate bashing.

    John you are obviously an older and very conservative individual. I'm not sure how reasonable it is for you to project your idiosyncrasies onto the average EV buyer.

    Bashing Tesla and Electric Vehicles is equivalent to choosing George Bush over Jimmy Carter for an environmental award.
    May 3, 2012. 02:16 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Why The Electric Vehicle House Of Cards Must Fall [View article]
    I'm thinking buyers might be holding off due to models soon to be announced, and released.

    There might be an element of waiting to see what the Tesla Model S launch does for orders, and coming details of the Toyota RAV4.

    I know I am waiting for now, but will order an EV before year end.
    May 2, 2012. 07:22 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    I agree.

    I do believe that Axion would like a piece of the home market as well. I know they have a division for high performance car batteries. (not EV)
    May 2, 2012. 07:06 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    Either way, looks like potential to me.
    May 2, 2012. 07:02 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    I agree on Axion being a cheap buy in now. It might make sense to jump on it.
    May 2, 2012. 07:01 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Elon Musk Is A Part-Time CEO [View article]
    I do agree that Elon Musk is not the best public speaker.

    I would guess that his accent has something to do with that.

    He also may be excited to share all the exciting details, but is conflicted by the need to hold back information that would give too much to speculators and the competition.

    I’m willing to cut him a little slack.
    May 1, 2012. 03:36 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla's Elon Musk Is A Part-Time CEO [View article]
    Short away!!!
    You are only enhancing the profitability those that have a clear understanding of the potential impact that Elon Musk, Space X, and Tesla will have on their respective markets.

    Your argument is nothing short of ridiculous.

    Are you saying GM’s CEO is destined to fail because GM owns more than one brand?

    Are you saying that IBM’s CEO is destined to fail because IBM owns a multitude of companies?

    Are you saying that Cisco’s CEO is destined to fail because Cisco owns a multitude of companies?

    Are you saying that Oracle’s CEO is destined to fail because Oracle owns a multitude of companies?

    I pity anyone who has the misfortune of not being able to see the limitations of your logic, and follows you investment advice.

    When someone has talent at doing something, and continuously immerses themselves in those activities, they get better at it than most others can imagine.

    You are clearly not qualified to appreciate, or evaluate Elon Musk’s abilities as a CEO.
    May 1, 2012. 03:26 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    It would seem that this birth might be taking place as we speak.

    http://tinyurl.com/blu...

    This might begin to explain JPs fear of Tesla from a competitive investment standpoint.

    If Tesla expands into larger format storage markets, this does present the potential for direct competition with Axion.

    By expanding into other markets that are either emerging, or existing, Tesla can leverage their R&D investment in batteries.

    Tesla has considerable expansion capabilities at their facility, and Battery Storage production is orders of magnitude less expensive to start up than passenger vehicles.

    Could diversification like this add enough juice to Tesla’s bottom line to enhance the march to profitability and stability?

    Do Tesla shorts have yet another reason to worry?

    This could be especially significant, to Axion Investors, if Tesla opts to develop lead-acid cells, or use those of an Axion competitor.

    Let’s just say that I’m very glad I did not invest heavily in Axion a few years ago.
    May 1, 2012. 01:35 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    FYI

    http://bit.ly/IGI9X9
    Apr 28, 2012. 03:52 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors: A Stock Worth Betting On [View article]
    Tesla April 27, 2012
    "Our store's brand new Model S Beta has just arrived from its birthplace at the Tesla Factory! You'll notice fit and finish advances from our last Model S Beta. The Tesla Manufacturing Team continues its hard work to ensure your Model S will be built to the highest industry standards."
    Apr 28, 2012. 03:46 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
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