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The Shallowest Generation

Oct. 31, 2008 4:55 AM ETDIA, SPY, QQQ283 Comments
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The Baby Boom Generation will never be mistaken for the Greatest Generation that survived the Great Depression and defeated evil in a World War that killed 72 million people. I hate to tell you Boomers, but putting a yellow ribbon on the back of your $50,000 SUV is not sacrifice.

Our claim to fame is living way beyond our means for the last three decades, to the point where we have virtually bankrupted our capitalist system. Baby Boomers have been occupying the White House for the last sixteen years. The majority of Congress is Baby Boomers. The CEOs and top executives of Wall Street firms are Baby Boomers. The media is dominated by Baby Boom executives and on-air stars. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the current predicament. Blaming Franklin Roosevelt or Lyndon Johnson for our dire situation is a cop out. Baby Boomers had the time, power, and ability to change our course. We have chosen to leave the heavy lifting to future generations in order to live the good life today.

Of course, not all Baby Boomers are shallow, greedy, and corrupt. Mostly Boomers with power and wealth fall into this category. There were 76 million Baby Boomers born between 1946 and 1963. They now make up 28% of the U.S. population. Their impact on America is undeniable. The defining events of their generation have been the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, Kent State, Woodstock, the 1st man on the moon, and now the collapse of our Ponzi scheme financial system. They rebelled against their parents, protested the Vietnam War, and settled down in 2,300 square foot cookie cutter McMansions with perfectly manicured lawns, in mall infested suburbia. They have raised overscheduled spoiled children, moved up the corporate ladder by pushing paper rather than making things, lived above their means in order to

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V
Twenty years ago, I only knew one person who had a BMW and he was a brain surgeon. Today, in the DC area, I'd say about 1 in 4 vehicles is a luxury vehicle. People are definitely buying more expensive cars and I don't think there are particularly more brain surgeons.
J
I came across your article and as a child of the 80's I want to say thank you for finally placing the blame on the real culprits. The only thing I I disagree with is that the Boomers are the one's to fix things.

"Ultimately, it is up to the Baby Boom generation to change our country’s course."

The younger generations will do the fixing as they have no other choice in the matter and have a different outlook on how to solve things. Most of the Boomers are still in the game and are unable to see the forest from the trees.

Basically "An old broom sweeps clean"

Despite watching Boomers cheat each other out of their future I am optimistic that things will get better. But it won't be done by a generation that spent most of their lives with the 'buy now pay later' mentality.

Boomers are a generation that have a wealth of knowledge and should now take on the role as advisers and let the next group in line have their turn at bat.
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yrraby
16 Nov. 2011
Whilst the comments you make are obviously true, for the most part, so they are true for the ills of all generations. Go back to the Great Depression during the thirties and the war that followed it, which generation do you imagine got the blame for that. Go back still further to the first world war, a truly stupid waste of life and time, which generation do you imagine got the blame for that. Selfishness is a hallmark of the world we live in. So is making mistakes and dare I say it generelisations. Once again the press and the media are behind setting people at each others throats. In contrast to the current wholesale condemnation of the Baby Boomer generation, I think you should remember, that they fought for America in the Vietnam war (and many died) they have lavished more on their children than any generation previously (interestingly according to an American by the name of Rob Gettemy, a highly religious man running a site called 'A million people for Jesus', the baby Boomers are all child haters) and they have contributed a great deal of money in tax. They were also the first generation to realise that the human race was polluting the planet, not something America accepts I know, but it is so never the less. I feel that bashing the Baby Boomers has become a new topic, probably because those who like to write articles and spout for a living, have begun to realise there is limited millage left in bashing the Gays. I am a Baby Boomer, getting on for eighty million people were and you need to ask yourself, can you really lump such a large number of people together and write them off in this way, no of course you can't. They have not lived in isolation from other generations. They have shared government and industry with other generations, their progress or otherwise has been influenced by other generations. During the good times there were plenty of people from an older generation than the boomers, that enjoyed the comforts of retirement given to them, care for the elderly has improved overall during the boomer generation, at least it has in Europe, nothing much seems to improve in America, education health care research and gift aid have all grown during this time. It is high time we stopped this nonsense and realised that there are people good and bad in all generations. Speaking as a Baby Boomer I shall be glad when my time is done. I shall at least hear no more of the eternal belch of the press, the christian right wing and above probably all the self righteous American laying the blame at the door of everybody else.
A
Love the Article! I'm a generation after the Boomers. It's no different in Canada where I reside.
My parents were the epitomy of the Boomer Generation. We lived in excess wealth growing up. It was the era where both parents worked because it meant more wealth, and the kids were raised by day-care. We went to church because it was fashionable. My mother gave 5.00 a week to the Church collection, which may not seem such a bad thing except that the annual income in our household likely neared 100,000.00, in the 1980s. My mother's take on helping others was two-fold; either she would rant that many people chose their own situations and could only blame themselves, and also she would often say that "Well, the poverty issue is just too big, so why really even try to attack it?"
My parents had a very immature view on society; they really couldn't sympathize with people who experienced financial hardships. They were certain that if someone was struggling to survive, it was a direct result of bad choices. My mother grew up in a low income household and swore to herself to achieve the pinnacle of material gains by any means necessary.
I'm not saying that everyone from that generation became the picture of selfishness, but by and large, the Boomers were excessive consumers who flaunted their wares. There was little regard for those of less fortune while they collected treasures for themselves.
My dad, at one point, asked his dad for some of the inheritance money before the guy died, so he could better his lifestyle. If my child ever does that to me I'll slap him!
We lived in a castle of a home and my parents sought out
"society" types to rub elbows with. Our lives were a postcard of the Dream. My mother constantly told me that I needed to become someone important, and not merely a blue collar laborer.
She flaunted her cars, joined the elite circles and fitness clubs, you name it. She poked fun at other peoples'; landscapes, their homes, their relationships. Sick excess and greed...me me me.
I was made to feel like a failure because I chose Culinary Arts as a vocation. Now mom and dad live in Florida. They have 4 million dollars in the bank, yet they both still work; not because they have to in order to stay in the country; they're both full citizens. They fear that something bad could happen and that 4 million may not be enough.
They are in their late 60s. It makes me sick. The whole Boomer era was one of excess and self-servitude. I read a poem once, regarding the Boomers. This is the last stanza of it
"Here we godless people lived, and all that is left is a thousand lost golfballs."
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A few points to remember:

Most of the world's wealth, both imaginary and real, was created in the last 50 years by the boomer generation. The wealth of roads, pipelines and infrastructure you enjoy today.

Many boomers are putting their children through college AND taking care of aging pre-boomer parents. Saving was just not an option. Neither were ipods and SUVs.

Boomers collectively, did nothing but believe in capitalism. The gaming of the political/economic system was and is done by the wealthy oligarchy of the country. This is not a generational issue. It's a haves vs have-not issue. Until we recognize that the wealthy are another branch of government and are regulated accordingly, we are doomed to this boom and bust nonsense.

M
Another point of view; IMHO the baby boomers got the shaft. When they were young they paid very high mortgage interest rates, transferring wealth to their parents. Baby Boomers pay 15.3% social security (the half your employer pays comes out of your potential earnings) to fund their parent's retirement, who paid 4%, another transfer of wealth to their parents. Baby Boomers pay Medicare taxes for health insurance for their parents, another transfer of wealth to their parents. Baby Boomers pay a higher percentage of their income for taxes than their parents, another transfer of wealth to their parents. And now just as retirement is near, the stock market crashes and the Baby Boomers are not going to get to retire like their parents. I am not blaming the crash on their parents, but blaming the Baby Boomers for their plight is equivalent to blaming the rape victim. When it comes to interest cost and income tax costs the Baby Boomers were given a bad deal and they will never be able to recover.
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On Feb 11 01:52 AM Proud Boomer wrote:

> X-
>
> Watch it. You know nothing of what it was like to work in the 70's
> and 80's, and what has transpired culturally from that time to now.
> You are a remorselessly negative DWEEB, like most Xers, isn't life
> today good in any way? The comfort and convenience you have is largely
> due to the hard work of the Baby Boom generation. It may be that
> you didn't have the benefits we did, you being born in the 70's and
> growing up in increasingly alienated environment, not knowing the
> more old fashioned small town ways prevalent in the 50's and early
> 60's. You did miss out but that certainly wasn't Baby Boomers' fault
> as for example I was 15 when Xers started being born in the 70's.
> I didn't care for the 70's, especially compared to the early 60's
> but at age 7 in 1962 I hardly think you can blame my age group for
> losing Camelot.
>
> There have been alot of complex socio-economic forces at work throughout
> history, but the accomplishment of my generation (certainly not me,
> but the most productive of my generation), is that we got back the
> beautiful prosperity and dreamy times of the early 60's by the time
> year 2000 came along. Things actually got better in the 80's and
> 90's than what they had been in the 70's and last half of the 60's.
>
>
> The author of this blog is a complete jerk and ought to be taken
> to the back of the woodshed and have the crap beaten out of him for
> dissing his own generation. Time is not done, the world hasn't ended
> because of this severe recession, and it isn't boomers who are in
> debt, DWEEBOS. Also, Republicanism and conservatism including GWB
> were facilitated by generations X and younger, and others who didn't
> care for boomer liberalism, you people helped elect Bush along with
> backwoods boomers. This guy was horrible with economics but did anyone
> care as prosperity continued? As the good 1madboomer above noted,
> there's plenty of blame to go around. The legitimate point one could
> make about shortcomings of boomers is the polarization of their political
> positions.
>
> On Nov 05 06:12 PM HARM wrote:
B
X-

Watch it. You know nothing of what it was like to work in the 70's and 80's, and what has transpired culturally from that time to now. You are a remorselessly negative DWEEB, like most Xers, isn't life today good in any way? The comfort and convenience you have is largely due to the hard work of the Baby Boom generation. It may be that you didn't have the benefits we did, you being born in the 70's and growing up in increasingly alienated environment, not knowing the more old fashioned small town ways prevalent in the 50's and early 60's. You did miss out but that certainly wasn't Baby Boomers' fault as for example I was 15 when Xers started being born in the 70's. I didn't care for the 70's, especially compared to the early 60's but at age 7 in 1962 I hardly think you can blame my age group for losing Camelot.

There have been alot of complex socio-economic forces at work throughout history, but the accomplishment of my generation (certainly not me, but the most productive of my generation), is that we got back the beautiful prosperity and dreamy times of the early 60's by the time year 2000 came along. Things actually got better in the 80's and 90's than what they had been in the 70's and last half of the 60's.

The author of this blog is a complete jerk and ought to be taken to the back of the woodshed and have the crap beaten out of him for dissing his own generation. Time is not done, the world hasn't ended because of this severe recession, and it isn't boomers who are in debt, DWEEBOS. Also, Republicanism and conservatism including GWB were facilitated by generations X and younger, and others who didn't care for boomer liberalism, you people helped elect Bush along with backwoods boomers. This guy was horrible with economics but did anyone care as prosperity continued? As the good 1madboomer above noted, there's plenty of blame to go around. The legitimate point one could make about shortcomings of boomers is the polarization of their political positions.

On Nov 05 06:12 PM HARM wrote:

> "The boomers footed the multi trillion dollar bill to waged a
> decades long cold war against the greatest evil empire empire in
> history - and won - saving the world from communist enslavement and
> bringing freedom to Eastern Europe and Russia,. WW2 pales in comparison.
>
>
> Baby boomers have footed the bill for trillions of dollars in US
> foreign aid for decades - tell me what other country has done even
> a fraction of that?
>
> Baby boomers have paid for the 'war on poverty' by the Great Society
> - just look at the great standard of living the 'poor' people have
> in this country. As one person in India trying to get into the US
> said "I want to live in a country where the poor people are fat".
>
>
> This hardly sounds like selfishness to me."

>
>
> Oh, Lordy... so many fictions, where to start?
>
> Boomers did not actually *pay* for any of the above, which is one
> of the reasons why per-capita government and personal debt levels
> are at all-time highs, as the author has already pointed out.

>
> Aid to the poor --aka old school "socialism"-- went out of vogue
> during the Reagan Administration ('Welfare Cadillac Queens' and whatnot)
> and social program defunding accelerated under following administrations
> including Clinton's (welfare reform). Unfortunately, corporate socialism
> and unchecked military spending more than made up for any savings,
> by a huge margin.
>
> As a Gen-Xer, I have been geniunely "poor", as in one unemployment
> or min-wage paycheck away from homelessness --and not for laziness,
> lack of skills, education or willingness to take menial jobs, either.
> I doubt many non-blue collar/minority Boomers can relate, hence the
> warped view of the "great standard of living" U.S. poor supposedly
> enjoy.
>
> Boomers were born into an America of broadly shared prosperity, virtually
> free higher education, cheap housing and medical care, high manufacturing
> output, a large trade surplus, an expanding middle class, and an
> almost debt-free government.
>
> Boomers are leaving my (and future generations) with prosperity for
> the very few, sky-high college costs mostly financed with debt, a
> massive housing bubble, the most expensive per-capita medical costs
> ever, a shrinking manufacturing base, an enormous trade deficit,
> a shrinking middle class, and government in hock to the tune of $11
> Trillion + $53Trillion more in future unfunded liabilities.
>
> I wish I had written this article. Kudos to the author for a job
> well done, and the courage to tell it like it really is, without
> pulling any punches.
m
First of all, I'm a '48 boomer. I have been working since the age of twelve when I had two paper routes. One in morning and one in the evening. I mowed lawns, put up hay, and cleared land with a scythe, a sickle and an axe. I worked in home construction and the food service industry. All of this before I graduated high school. I served in the military during the Viet Nam War. I have been working shift work in a factory for the last 38 yrs. I put 5 children through school. I am practically debt free except for the last few years of a 30yr mortgage. I have saved enough to tell the cry baby Gen X ers that they can go ahead and buy their big screen TV and fancy car and not worry about having to take care of anyone but themselves.
There's plenty of blame to go around for this mess we are in. I think it is a real shame this author tries to lay it all on the hard-working, self-reliant folks of my generation.
G
The biggest indication of weath and dysfunctional families in the baby boom generation can now be found in the family drug intervention california programs. They simply are left behind by our own values!
> The United States National Debt versus Percent of Gross Domestic Product
> graph clearly shows that there is a distinct increase in dept as a percentage of
> GDP. This is a complete result of Supply-Side Economics. Give the rich tax
> breaks and they will leverage it more to make themselves more money.

Whaa? How are individuals and companies contributing to the *National* debt? Only the government can create national debt. The debt is where it is, because our statesmen have exchanged the wisdom of our founders for the foolishness of modern world sentiments, and because we have become a near-direct democracy, and because the people who make up that democracy are scared, foolish, short-sighted, greedy sheep. We have been adopting socialism by degrees for over 150 years, slowly degrading the single most powerful attribute of our nation's economy: the ability to adapt to reality. We now operate on the belief that we can make reality adapt to us.

Also, the rich don't leverage themselves with money they saved in "tax breaks". That's poor person-thinking. They *keep* tax breaks. They leverage themselves with money loaned to them by the Fed at below-market rates. Money that the Fed drained from *your* pocket when they created it. Money that the Fed won't loan to *you*.

Look no further than our government, its creations, and its policies for the roots of our national debt. And if you want to rip capital away from "all those rich people" you had better find a principle to do it by; a principle which shows that you actually have an ownership claim in part of their product. If you take the short route and just vote it into place, the principle you will have appealed to will be "might makes right". Someday you'll be a minority on an issue, and you won't like that principle so much then.
On Oct 31 05:43 AM Alan von Altendorf wrote:

> Hmm. Well written. Thank you. Wish I could agree with the conclusion,
> but you were much nearer the solution when you admitted that playing
> by the rules made you a chump, an enabler, who implicitly allowed
> the grifters to snowball wildly out of control. How you believe that
> Barack Obama and a Democrat Congress can save anyone is inexplicable.

Alan, there is one plot in this article that says EVERYTHING. The United States National Debt versus Percent of Gross Domestic Product graph clearly shows that there is a distinct increase in dept as a percentage of GDP. This is a complete result of Supply-Side Economics. Give the rich tax breaks and they will leverage it more to make themselves more money. How do "save anyone" is you reverse the effect; tax the rich again. This is what Obama is going to do. Note, when Clinton took office, there was a small dip in the graph a few years later, but W. Bush made the plot move back up again with his tax breaks. Republicans can NOT get this through their heads...tax breaks for the upper-class and large corporations is BAD!!!! It causes an increase in dept because the upper-class and corporations use this money to leverage. Leveraging is great for making money but is risky and when the leveraging fails, it is the country that pays, just as we are paying now.

How do you fix this...tax the wealthy. And not just income but excess wealth and assets. Don't allow CEOs to make $30M in 5 years and now live in luxury while the rest of us have to pay for their errors. Make THEM pay now with an Assets Tax of wealth over $15M. This will funnel money back into the government and allow them to start dwindling downt the dept.
D
DSMOV
20 Nov. 2008
I can remember when Apple Corp. was a educational based company supplying cutting-edge instruments like computers for the classroom in the 1980's. Fast forward to today and it is reasonable to assume that Apple has done a complete shift away from the progress of education to attacking the classroom with their IPODS and IPHONES. Its more profitable right, plus they had decades worth of analysis about the American education model and classroom. These new instruments stimulated young minds away from learning-right there in the classroom. Parents are too busy feeling good and making more kids than realizing what's going on at school. That's why parents buy their kids IPOND and IPHONES so they won't have to parent as much. Kids will tell the teacher all day how they need their cell phone and if you touch it their parents "will be mad at you." People were much less stimulated in years past and were able to intake more information. Ethics was a virtue unassailable by video games, mpegs, wmas and the internet which like a flue allows filth to reach minors-it truly shapes their being. Minors being able to watch flash porn on the internet all day. So if in the above article concerns are raised about the education of Boomers by the Greatist Generation and its consequences, we should be deeply worried about our current and next generations of youth. All I've seen are: parental indifference, mass lowering of expectations, multiculturalism, real pay declines and large classrooms. Strategically and theoretically, to keep this credit scheme of debt going on in the real world you need dumb persons not educated ethical ones coming from the secondary school. So a 30 year war on education has been in place here in America. If you don't believe why don't you leave your cushy job and come to where I work and see for yourself. What America needs is resistance by the best minds and the leaders of the people from this attack upon our homeland AND OUR CHILDREN. NCLB is a sham and must be revoked. NCLB is like a question mark inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma. It is designed to ignore problems and limit successful proven teachers from receiving credentialing.
S
This is an impressive list of bitches about a system that you (doctors) created. You may not have the control now, but you did during the time that it took for it to go to hell in a handbasket. You influenced the hospitals' policy before they went corporate. You set prices for insurance companies as "consultants". You colluded with those same insurance companies to make a joke out of worker's compensation laws and you abetted the setting of borderline deadly standards for our Food and Drug administration. If you aren't now excluded from the "free market" pressures as you once were, don't ask us to feel sorry for you while your collection attorneys work to kick us out of our homes because of bad timing for an appendectomy. As far as your discounting 85% of your fee to those who couldn't pay you, I say that you have to be one out of 1000. I commend you if this is true, but doubt that you can find another in your country club that can make the same claim.

On Nov 16 09:11 PM macbones wrote:

> Doctors are part of the problem? So do you even know what doctors
> are actually paid for the procedures and services they provide? And
> once you look that up on some medicare site, then multiply by 0.5-
> thats the amount after office overhead- you know, in addition to
> the $50K in malpractice our 9 providers each pay, the salaries of
> the 110 employees that we provide jobs for, and the cost of red
> tape thanks to reams of government regulation and oversight. Then
> multiply that figure by 0.5 again, b/c as a "rich" physician I pay
> over 50% of my income to one tax or another. So when grandma gets
> that knee replaced and 90 days of included aftercare, please don't
> think of it as $1200- to her greedy doctor. Think of it as $250-,
> because thats what it is. As a provider who also accepts medicaid,
> purely because where else would these non-working, smoking, drinking,
> difficult patients in need of care go, I find it particularly offensive
> that someone would suggest that I'm operating on them to bilk the
> system when a lot of their surgeries reimburse under $100. Not a
> free market? You are right there. My payments (from medicare/ medicaid)
> are set by some bureaucrat and are in no way negotiable. Payments
> are negotiable if you don't have insurance, and guess what, if someone
> needs surgery to walk and doesn't have insurance, I'll waive 85%
> of the fee or more. I can't say, "write off," because the IRS doesn't
> recognize that as a loss, even though the fee does not cover my malpractice
> insurance to do the surgery. You have insurance and can't negotiate?
> Duh. Your insurer negotiated FOR you- in effect, you negotiated when
> you selected your (crappy) policy. Upset that your (crappy) policy
> costs so much? Go ask Bill Maguire, former CEO of united healthcare
> why insurance costs so much- for delivering a good PROFIT to shareholders,
> Bill walked away with over 1 BILLION dollars in compensation (If
> I started practice 1500 years PRIOR to the birth of Christ, I'd have
> a billion dollars. Thats how much a billion is). He was taxed at
> 15% on most of that by the way.
>
> There may be a lot of reasons Ron Paul isn't the answer. Assuming
> that he's a greedy doctor because he spent 12 years in higher education
> studying and working a hundred hours a week as a student and resident
> slave before entering practice and working 90 hours a week and living
> within his means to accumulate a lump of wealth is certainly not
> one of them.
>
> Piss off.
m
Doctors are part of the problem? So do you even know what doctors are actually paid for the procedures and services they provide? And once you look that up on some medicare site, then multiply by 0.5- thats the amount after office overhead- you know, in addition to the $50K in malpractice our 9 providers each pay, the salaries of the 110 employees that we provide jobs for, and the cost of red tape thanks to reams of government regulation and oversight. Then multiply that figure by 0.5 again, b/c as a "rich" physician I pay over 50% of my income to one tax or another. So when grandma gets that knee replaced and 90 days of included aftercare, please don't think of it as $1200- to her greedy doctor. Think of it as $250-, because thats what it is. As a provider who also accepts medicaid, purely because where else would these non-working, smoking, drinking, difficult patients in need of care go, I find it particularly offensive that someone would suggest that I'm operating on them to bilk the system when a lot of their surgeries reimburse under $100. Not a free market? You are right there. My payments (from medicare/ medicaid) are set by some bureaucrat and are in no way negotiable. Payments are negotiable if you don't have insurance, and guess what, if someone needs surgery to walk and doesn't have insurance, I'll waive 85% of the fee or more. I can't say, "write off," because the IRS doesn't recognize that as a loss, even though the fee does not cover my malpractice insurance to do the surgery. You have insurance and can't negotiate? Duh. Your insurer negotiated FOR you- in effect, you negotiated when you selected your (crappy) policy. Upset that your (crappy) policy costs so much? Go ask Bill Maguire, former CEO of united healthcare why insurance costs so much- for delivering a good PROFIT to shareholders, Bill walked away with over 1 BILLION dollars in compensation (If I started practice 1500 years PRIOR to the birth of Christ, I'd have a billion dollars. Thats how much a billion is). He was taxed at 15% on most of that by the way.

There may be a lot of reasons Ron Paul isn't the answer. Assuming that he's a greedy doctor because he spent 12 years in higher education studying and working a hundred hours a week as a student and resident slave before entering practice and working 90 hours a week and living within his means to accumulate a lump of wealth is certainly not one of them.

Piss off.

On Oct 31 07:54 AM copperbaron wrote:

> iAccountant siad - "In my opinion it will take a total collapse of
> the system to bring the type of change that you are referring to.
> Is this the beginning?"
>
> I believe it may be. We are seeing the joints coming apart, the beams
> sagging and about to crack under the weight of massive debt and enormous
> corruption. Paulson is just trying to steal a few billion more for
> his beloved financial organized crime rings, before he retires to
> a life of wealth and luxury, under very heavy security.
>
> Many hail Ron Paul as some sort of visionary, but I would argue differently.
> He espouses "Free markets" but made all of his money as a doctor.
> As anyone who bothers to examine the facts knows, doctors bill enormous
> fees to patients (and Medicare/Medicaid) in a system that in no way
> resembles a "free market."
>
> Rather, it is a rigged market that controls the number of available
> doctors, and legislates their financial advantage, to an extraordinary
> degree. The A.M.A. is the most powerful and mercenary union in this
> nation's history, and is sucking the country dry.
>
> I would never vote for Ron Paul on purely moral grounds - he was
> part of the problem, in my opinion. If you are a wealthy doctor (one
> of the limited number allowed to be 'licensed' that is) then it is
> easy to throw stones and criticize others for debt. These jokers
> live in a fantasy world, just like the IB types shuffling paper around
> and committing fraud for million-dollar bonuses. Their sense of true
> economics is deeply distorted by their own self-manipulated and outsized
> pay package.
S
Don't forget that the "greatest generation" also included Bush's grandfather who was deeply involved in international banking, tried to overthrow our government and collaborated with the Nazis. How much different would our present position be if he had been held accountable instead of rewarded by a government as corrupt as he was at it's core?

This was the first generation off the farm and their political naivety enabled the establishment of the powers that still control the wealth of our nation. As much as we (boomers) benefited from their work ethic and frugality we also suffered from their ignorance. They allowed the first foreign knock off products to compete with American goods and decided that the Marshall plan was a good start toward global domination. They were the CEO's that first hired illegal immigrants and took high paying jobs offshore. They have not been retired so long that we can say that they weren't complicit in the short sighted profit taking that has brought us to where we are now. That flame was spread more like a grassfire than the passing of a torch. Those who didn't directly contribute to our country's descent enabled it through their ignorance of their own economy.

Perhaps workers will end up better for our misery if we can rise above that level of uninformed sheepdom and forge a "real" economic system out of the ashes of the failed pseudo-capitalistic model that we have been propping up for the last 30 years. That has been the sin of us "boomers". We have held a false reverence for a cruel and inequitable system that produces poverty in equal proportion to wealth. The purchase of what should have been ours to start with may be expensive, but it is now the path to the revolution that was inevitable all along. If the taxpayers don't see a return on this investment they will storm the bastions of wealth and declare their rightful ownership of our nation. The money changers know this and they are only attempting to hide behind the politicians that they bought. Their hired buffoons won't make good cover for them when it hits the fan though. You really can't expect to throw a quarter of the population out of their homes and price their food too high for them to afford and expect to keep "civil order" for long. We will either get a system that works or we will make one from scratch. Enough of us know how to make our way in the world to teach others and we will have the mansions of the current wealthy to use for firewood.
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There is zero chance that Obama and a left-wing Congress will not pursue with reckless abandon the FDR/Keynesian model in a doomed attempt to lift us from the Second Great Depression. This is despite overwhelming evidence that Keynesian quackery did nothing to ameliorate the economic miseries of the 1930s.

We can only pray that it does not take another global war to get the economy moving again. At the very least, the process will require a collapse in America's standard of living so that our wages are competitive with Asia's. We'll need to emerge from the abyss with a competitive manufacturing capability, since the world will have little need for "financial powerhouses" adept at creating only synthetic wealth.
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