Fed Targeting 4% To 5% Nominal 10-Year Treasury Yield And Baa Corporates Approaching 7%

Jun. 21, 2013 6:16 PM ETBKLN, HYG, VCIT, VCLT, VCSH49 Comments
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The violent market action this week resulted from investors being surprised by the Fed basically doing what it has been telegraphing for a while now. Yes, they really mean really when they say really.

Nonetheless the Taper-Talk resulted in a Taper-Tantrum. But tantrums and corrections in markets are just part of ordinary fare. As the song goes, "mama said there will be days like this; there will be days like this mama said."

Clearly it is time to think more about where interest rates might go.

It is easier to predict WHERE they will go than WHEN they will go, and near impossible to predict both. We'll stick with WHERE in this letter, except to say we doubt rates will rise to "normal" levels very rapidly because central banks will probably take measures to moderate the rate of change.

It seems to me that the Fed in the back of its mind is expecting 10-year Treasury rates to go to the 4.0% to 5.0% range over the next year or two or maybe three. That would correspond to 30-year mortgages in the range of 5.75% to 6.75% compared to nearly 4% today. The estimated Treasury rate would also correspond to Baa corporate bonds at about 8%.

How do we estimate those rates? … just using long-term averages.

The Fed is targeting 2% inflation. The long-term spread between 10-year Treasuries and CPI is about 2.5% (the "real rate"). That gives 4.5% as a probable target for the 10-year bond.

10-Year Treasury rate (blue), CPI (red) from 1963

Rate spread between 10-Yr Treasury rate and CPI from 1963

Toss in a little over or under accomplishment by the Fed on creating inflation, and you get 4% to 5% as a 10-year Treasury rate.

With a 10-year Treasury at that level, we might likely

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