Nanometrics' (NANO) CEO Timothy Stultz on Q2 2016 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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Nanometrics Incorporated (NASDAQ:NANO) Q2 2016 Earnings Conference Call July 26, 2016 4:30 PM ET


Claire McAdams - Investor Relations at Headgate Partners LLC

Timothy Stultz - President and Chief Executive Officer

Jeffrey Andreson - Chief Financial Officer


Patrick Ho - Stifel Nicolaus & Company Inc.

Thomas Diffely - D.A. Davidson & Co.

Weston Twigg - Pacific Crest Securities

David Wu - Indaba Global Research

Mark Miller - The Benchmark Company


Good afternoon, and welcome to the Nanometrics’ Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] A Q&A session will be held at the end of the call. Until that time, all participants will be in listen-only mode. Please note that this conference call is being recorded today, July 26, 2016.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to your host, Claire McAdams. Please go ahead.

Claire McAdams

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Nanometrics’ second quarter 2016 financial results conference call. On today’s call are Dr. Timothy Stultz, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jeffrey Andreson, Chief Financial Officer.

Shortly, Tim will provide a recap of the quarter and our perspective looking forward. Then, Jeff will discuss our financial results in more detail, after which we will open up the call for Q&A. The press release detailing our financial results was distributed over the wire services shortly after 1:00 PM Pacific this afternoon. The press release and supplemental financial information are also available on our website at

Today’s conference call contains certain forward-looking statements including, but not limited to, financial performance and results including revenue, margins, operating expenses, profitability and earnings per share. Such statements may be identified by the use of words like believe, expect and similar expressions that look towards future events or performance.

Although Nanometrics believes that the expectations reflected in the forward-looking statements are reasonable, actual results could differ materially from the expectations due to a variety of factors including general economic conditions, changes in timing and levels of industry spending, the adoption and competitiveness of our products, industry adoption of new technology and manufacturing processes, customer demand, shift in timing of orders or product shipments, changes in product mix, our ability to successfully realize operating efficiencies and the additional risk factors and cautionary statements set forth in the company’s Form 10-K on file for fiscal year 2015.

Nanometrics disclaims any obligation to update information contained in any forward-looking statement.

During today’s call we will also refer to financial measures not calculated according to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Please refer to today’s press release for an explanation of our reasons for using such non-GAAP measures as well as tables reconciling these measures to our GAAP results.

I will now turn over the call to Tim Stultz. Tim?

Timothy Stultz

Thank you, Claire. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us on our call. Today, I will speak to recent highlights of our business and financial performance, as well as industry trends and our business drivers. I will conclude with our guidance for the September quarter. Following my prepared remarks, Jeff will provide additional details on our financial results, after which we will open the lines for Q&A.

Our June quarter results reflect continued revenue growth and increased operating profit. While at the same time our long-term business outlook continues to strengthen. The successful execution of our strategy to target key technology inflection points with industry-leading process control metrology solutions has resulted in improved market positions with every leading semiconductor manufacturer for every leading etch device.

The share gains we achieved over the last two years combined with planned investments on next generation technologies and incremental capacity, particularly for 3D-NAND, where we have a commanding market share lead, gives us growing confidence that our revenue growth will not only outperform the industry in 2016, but also that 2017 will shape up to be another sequential year of growth and outperformance.

In the June quarter, we achieved multi-year highs in profitability metrics including product growth margin, operating margin and earnings per share with top-line driven by all-time records in NAND, integrated metrology and thin-film metrology. We also turned the corner in free cash flow generation, which was 19% of Q2 sales and added nearly $13 million in cash to our balance sheet.

During the quarter we launched the newest addition to our integrated metrology product family, the IMPULSE+. We are pleased with strong customer response to this new product, which contributed to our record thin-film metrology and integrated sales in the quarter. The introduction of the IMPULSE+ follows on the heels of the successful Atlas III launch in the previous quarter, which continues to gain commercial momentum with multiple customers.

The Atlas III has already shifted volume and it’s being used or valuated for the most advanced technology nodes, including 1X DRAM, third-generation 3D-NAND, and 7-nanometer and 5-nanometer foundry devices.

Our strategy of offering complementary metrology platforms, both automated and integrated, linked together and enabled by our industry-leading diffract modeling and analytical software, has been the linchpin of our success in winning share and maintaining market leadership in the Optical Critical Dimension or OCD market.

In addition to OCD, we see significant incremental revenue opportunities within the thin-film market using our existing optical technologies and metrology platforms. With the performance improvements in both the IMPULSE+ and Atlas III, combined with new applications development, we expect to gain share and expand our position in that market.

Turning to our end markets, 3D-NAND has been the major part of our growth story for a number of quarters and the second quarter was no exception. We started the year with a record quarter for both 3D-NAND orders and revenue, both of which exceeded our previously quarterly records by more than 70%.

Following that strong Q1, second quarter 3D-NAND sales were up by more than 60% quarter on quarter. This led to records not only for total NAND revenues, but also record revenues from the overall memory market.

The current spending environment in 3D-NAND is certainly benefitting the industry at large, particularly for those companies leveraged to etch and deputation processes. The sheer size and intrinsic price elasticity of this market, driven by near insatiable need for memory across all types of devices and platforms, it’s fueling aggressive investments and subsequent generations and added capacity of 3D-NAND by nearly every one of our largest customers.

Generational technology node investments not only mean new fabs, new build-outs and more CapEx, but increasing intensity for OCD and films process control solution, where we have established significant market leadership. For the architectural and process challenges at a company with high aspect ratio 3D devices, the role of in line process control becomes increasingly important as our customers work to extract incremental performance and fab-wide consistency across multiple process tools and process steps.

This is an area of particular strength for NANO. Our process control solutions, both automated and integrated have been deployed fab-wide with ability to share and exchange data in both feed-forward and feed-backward protocols.

Currently, we see 3D-NAND spending continue to be strong into the second-half of the year, although somewhat less than the spending on the first-half. Importantly, following conversations with our customers about their product roadmaps and investment plan, and supported by industry device demand forecasts, we expect 2017 to be another year of growth for 3D-NAND spending.

Other areas of memory market are also quite important to NANO, while many, if not, most companies see DRAM spending being down year on year in 2016. DRAM has continued to be a relatively strong market for NANO. And we expect 2016 DRAM revenues to be similar to 2015 levels.

In contrast to NAND, we see DRAM sales being somewhat weighted to the second-half of the year. Also in memory, we have key engagements from the development and production of new and novel memory devices. And we see the opportunity for incremental contribution to our overall memory business as these devices move into high-volume manufacturing.

Turning to the foundry market, spending was relatively slow in the first-half, but it’s clearly strengthening at this time. We currently expect foundry sales to be significantly weighted to the second half, driven by capacity investments of 10-nanometer node and development spending on 7-nanometer and 5-nanometer devices.

And lastly, well advanced logic investments are forecasted to be minimal this year. We expect this market to be an additional driver for year-on-year growth in 2017.

Summing it up, demand for our OCD metrology solutions has continued to increase at each technology node, across all device types, with investments occurring at a growth rate greater than most other areas of the wafer fab - most other areas of Wafer Fab Equipment or WFE.

In addition, advanced process control strategies, use of metrology and data analytics is playing an ever-expanding role in accelerating fab ramps and driving the yield improvements. These industry trends are in turn increasing demand for both our automated and integrated solutions, along with our diffract-based modeling software and data analytics products, and our unique ability to offer these platforms from a system solution perspective.

We continue to expect a stronger second-half of 2016, compared to the first-half, fueled by increased contributions from foundry and DRAM, and continued 3D-NAND spending. And we remain positive about the outlook for additional growth in 2017. Beyond targeting secular growth markets, competing for share gains and delivering revenue growth, our operational focus on improvement of profitability and increasing cash flow is also beginning to deliver results in a meaningful way.

Relative to our published business model in Q1 we reported gross margins and flow-through above the target model. While our Q2 results and Q3 guidance are in line with the model, we do intend to continue to drive operational improvements throughout our business to further improve operating margins in conjunction with incremental revenue growth.

In closing, while share gains and operational execution is of key importance for the near-term, our long-term strategy for growth, continued outperformance and increased shareholder value is focused in execution on further expanding our fab-footprint at key accounts, expanding our served markets with the development of new end-use applications, and the development of new and disruptive technologies and platforms.

With that, our guidance for the September quarter is as follows: revenues of between $55 million and $59 million; and on a non-GAAP basis growth margin of 51% to 52.5%; operating expenses of $20.6 million to $21.2 million; and earnings of $0.23 to $0.30 per share.

I will now turn the call over to Jeff for a detailed review of our financial performance and outlook. Jeff?

Jeffrey Andreson

Thanks, Tim. Before I begin my comments, I’d like to remain you that a schedule which summarizes GAAP and non-GAAP financial results discussed on this conference call, as well as supplemental revenue segment information by product, end-market and geographic region is available in the Investor section of our website.

Second quarter revenues were $55.8 million, an increase of 17% from Q1 and 15% from Q2 of 2015. Product revenues were $47.5 million, an increase of 21% from Q1 and 15% from Q2 of 2015. Service revenues of $8.3 million were slightly up from Q1 and increased 11% from the second quarter of 2015. By end-market, the NAND segment, which is predominantly 3D-NAND represented 67% of product sales and increased 55% over Q1.

DRAM and foundry saw small declines to comprise 12% and 10% of product sales respectively. Logic increased to 8% of product sales, and all other devices and substrates comprised the remaining 3% of product sales.

By product type, total second quarter revenues were comprised of 48% automated systems, 33% integrated metrology systems, 4% materials characterization systems and the remaining 15% was service. Our 10% customers in the second quarter included Micron at 36% and Intel at 24% of total revenues for the quarter.

I’ll now discuss the remainder of the P&L, which are non-GAAP measures, unless I identify the measure as GAAP-based. These measures exclude the impact of amortization of acquired intangible assets. Our Q2 gross margin was 51.8%, 70 basis points lower than Q1 reflecting a decrease in service gross margin which was 37.9% compared to 45.8% in the first quarter.

While product gross margin increased 30 basis points to 54.2%. Service margins were negatively impacted by a lower level of field service utilization, resulting in part from our improvements in installation cycle time, as well as higher-than-expected material costs in our contract service business.

As Tim mentioned, our gross margin in the first quarter was above our target model at those revenue volumes. Q2 is in line with our model and our Q3 gross margin guidance is also in line with the company’s target model, inclusive of the impact of the first few Atlas III systems’ expected revenue in the third quarter.

Operating expenses of $21.1 million were within our guidance range of $20.6 million to $21.2 million. For Q3, we are guiding to the same range for operating expenses, which is marginally higher than our prior expectation to be in the $20 million to $20.5 million range in the back-half of the year.

While our revenue outlook for the year remains generally unchanged since our last earnings call, our improved profitability is resulting in a higher level of variable compensation, which along with the higher stock price has also increased our stock compensation expenses. While the net change is modest, we now expect operating expenses for the full year to be similar to 2015 level.

Below the operating line for the second quarter, other expenses were $449,000 equivalent to $0.02 per share as a result of foreign exchange losses incurred during the quarter. Our tax expense for the quarter was $856,000 and was lower than expected, due to the timing of a favorable adjustment of approximately $500,000 or $0.02 per share.

Given the improvement in our profit outlook for the year, we will be subject to a minimum level of U.S. tax. Given this our quarterly tax rate for the remainder of 2016 will be in the range of 21% to 22% per quarter depending on the level of profitability. Net income for the second quarter was $6.5 million or $0.26 per share.

Turning briefly to the balance sheet, our cash and investments increased $12.6 million from Q1 and ended the quarter at $96 million or about $3.89 per share. Days sales outstanding increased slightly to 87 days from 84 days in the prior quarter, principally due to the increase in deferred revenue billings that will be recognized as revenue in future quarters.

Our deferred revenue of $25.6 million is mainly attributed to the initial Atlas III shipments and first-in-fab systems requiring customer acceptance for revenue recognition. Inventory decreased $3.3 million to $50.7 million at the end of the second quarter. We expect to see further decreases, as we recognize revenue on the deferred Atlas III systems.

Cash flow from operations increased to $12.7 million, reflecting the increase in profitability along with the reduction in working capital. As Tim mentioned, free cash flow grew to 19% of sales and we expect free cash flow performance to be stronger in the second-half, compared to the first-half.

With that, I’ll turn the call over to questions. Operator?

Question-and-Answer Session


Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Patrick Ho of Stifel Nicolaus. Your line is open, sir.

Patrick Ho

Thank you very much. Tim, firstly in terms of the industry, you’ve seen better-than-expected DRAM revenues than most of your peers. Do you believe that’s partly due to increase in capital intensity transfer to OCD, metrology and DRAM or do you believe share gains have contributed to your better-than-expected DRAM numbers?

Timothy Stultz

Hi, Patrick, thanks for calling. I think the primary contributor is both the timing of investments for our process control metrology on new fabs, fab ramps, as well as the increase in intensity of OCD to address the scaling and the process control challenges on the 1X type devices.

Patrick Ho

Great, that’s helpful. And maybe a second follow-up question in terms of your business specifically. You talked about some of the increasing opportunities in thin-film metrology. Can you detail some of the application drivers and also your thoughts on share gain opportunities in that market segment?

Timothy Stultz

So there are a number of areas that - and what was key for us on films is, the films market is one that we can address with our current core competencies. Our optical systems and software requires a little bit of applications development. There are number of areas in the film’s deposition, film thickness that we’re looking at and that we have actually won some on. And we believe that with the focus on these markets, we have a meaningful opportunity to expand our position in that market which is will be relatively new contribution to our total revenues.

Patrick Ho

Great, and final question from me, maybe for Jeff in terms of the gross margins, two part question. You talked about some of the pressures on the services gross margins in the June quarter. One, do they kind of continue into the September quarter in terms of their effects? And secondly, how long do you believe this roll out of the Atlas III will have a drag on gross margins?

Jeffrey Andreson

So let me start with service, so service, I think there were some anomalies in service that we would expect them to recover of that. Also on the Atlas III we would expect probably through the end of the year, seeing some of the initial tools rollout between the next few quarters. I’d like just maybe to point out one thing is - even though the margin was down quarter over quarter we were essentially on our model for the quarter.

And when you compare first-half of 2015 to first-half of 2016 you will see that we are on a 4% increase in revenue, we doubled our operating profit. So we are on the model. Q1 was a little bit better, so it makes the quarter-to-quarter flow-through look a little bit low. But when you compare the quarter-to-quarter flow-through for Q2 and Q3 versus the prior year or even Q4, you will see that we’re at the model or above the model in each one of those periods.

Patrick Ho

Great, thank you.

Timothy Stultz

Patrick, I’d also - I add that even though our total margins were down, you’re looking our product margins were up quarter on quarter. So even though there is always a new product launch drag, it’s pretty minimal right now. And once we get through those first builds and first installations, we think that is doing nice contribution, accretive contribution to our gross margins with the Atlas III.

Patrick Ho

Great, thank you very much.


Thank you. Our next question is from Tom Diffely of D.A. Davidson. Your line is open, sir.

Thomas Diffely

Yes, good afternoon. So I guess just to confirm, so it sounds like the product margins might come down a little bit next quarter too, because of Atlas, but the service margins will come up and all-in-all they’re relative flat overall?

Timothy Stultz

Well, I mean, we don’t want to be too specific on guidance at the product level, but being back on it. I mean our model incorporates some mix change and other stuff. I mean, we are essentially on the model. But with the recovery of service, you could imply that the product margins might be down just a touch.

Thomas Diffely

Okay. And the Atlas III, does this have capabilities that the two didn’t have to do the 1X DRAM and the third generation 3D or is it just kind of an evolutionary change that makes it even more efficient for the customers?

Timothy Stultz

It’s both of those, Tom. The product has additional capabilities both in its precision, its resolution, signal-to-noise. It also has productivity improvements, a lot of new components within the system to address both some of the leading edge on DRAM as well as the 3D-NAND with the optical source. So it’s an evolutionary tool and it’s still fundamentally the Atlas platform, but the optical assembly and capabilities of the tool are materially improved.

Thomas Diffely

Okay. And now that you penetrated several new customers and you’re going to show off your thin-film capabilities, what kind of time would you think there is for just the rollout? I mean, do go into a trial for multiple quarters? And then is this a 2017 opportunities or how do you think it rolls out?

Timothy Stultz

That’s a good question. So I’ll speak a little bit to our film strategy without going in to a lot of detail for competitive reasons. But the first and foremost is to understand that the films’ market is closely adjacent to the OCD market. It’s a little more fragmented and it’s addressed by a number of different types of technologies and tools. But within the area, where you can use optical metrology, we have the core competency with the ellipsometry and scatterometry.

And it’s really about applications development and just some of the format specifics that are directed for films’ applications. Our strategy in general is that now that we’ve penetrated all the major accounts that do both OCD and films, and we’ve established ourselves with a highly differentiated OCD product, we have a very - the threshold and the barriers to entry are lower for us to go after the thin-films market with our core competencies and the platform strategy we have now.

So we expect this to be kind of - what I call a land and expand strategy. We’ll go after specific layers. We’ll go after specific nodal areas. And we have the benefit of tools that are already on site, so the valuation and testing of our platform for those new applications is pretty straight forward. And so we think that this is going to be - it won’t be a step function, but I think it’s going to see continued and gradual increase in our share, and as we mentioned earlier that we had record films revenues in this last quarter.

Thomas Diffely

Yes, great. Okay. And last question, when you look at the 3D-NAND business in the second-half, does that require a new round of spending? Are those just - is that just the timing of orders that were placed earlier in the year?

Timothy Stultz

It’s both, there are some incremental spending that’s in forecast, that we’ve got in our pipeline and there is also some delivery against forecast and orders that have been given to us.

Thomas Diffely

Great, all right. Thanks for your time.


Thank you. Our next question is from Weston Twigg of Pacific Crest. Your line is open, sir.

Weston Twigg

Yes. Hi, thanks for taking my question. First, just wanted to come back to the low service gross margin, so I think the two reasons you already say were a lower level of field service utilization and then higher than expected materials costs. But both of those sound like surprises to me. And so I’m wondering if you could be more specific about what you are doing to fix those in terms of increasing your field service utilization and how you can - I don’t know, get better visibility into materials costs?

Jeffrey Andreson

Yes, well - so I’ll take the material costs question first. And when you have service contracts, it’s like a warranty on your car. You’re never quite sure when things break. The costs were a little bit higher; sometimes they’re a little bit better. So they do have an unpredictable nature to them. And so they will come out and hit, say - but they’ll average out over time. This quarter we had higher than expected.

On the service utilization, as we continue to drive improved cycle-time particularly and product reliability, we’ll reduce the need for as many hours we apply to our installation and warranty. And then, what we need to see is an offsetting growth in service-related labor revenue, where the guys will work it, otherwise we get these types of disconnects, which you can get in the short-term. But we also - we have pretty significant revenues in the last few quarters and a lot of installations going on. So some of that is just timing as well in the quarter from when we entered the quarter to when the tools actually started to install.

Timothy Stultz

So, Wes, I would add to that, to the - there is an element of this, we’re a victim of our own success. We put a lot of energy into our installation warranty efficiency and our cycle-times. And the success of reduced cycle-time means that we have service time that would normally be allocated to that, that is now not directly - is basically unallocated and gets moved in FX margin, but it doesn’t reflect the efficiency improvement. So as we redeploy those resources to address either growth and/or other areas of business, then you’re going to see an improvement in the margins.

Weston Twigg

Okay. That makes sense. Other question I had was just I was pretty surprised at how concentrated your customer base was last quarter. And so, just wondering if you could help us understand if you expect that to broaden out through the balance of the year and maybe if you give us an idea of the upside and downside risks, not by customer, but maybe by category like NAND, DRAM foundry in terms of being overly concentrated?

Timothy Stultz

Right, so I mean the concentration is a direct reflection of the strength of the 3D-NAND business. Our two large customers are - our greater than 10% customers will has to do at 3D-NAND. As you start to look forward in the four quarters, we expect 3D-NAND spending to continue, but we also expect DRAM spending to come back. And we also expect the improvement in foundry, which will give us a little broader customer contribution to our overall revenue matrix.

Weston Twigg

So I guess the question should be maybe more specific, since you had such high business at Intel and Micron this quarter, presumably they took a lot of tools they might do some digestion. Your revenue guidance as I understand that you expect some DRAM spending to come back in. But, I don’t know, there are enough other customers in 3D-NAND to make up the difference? I know you said it might be down a bit in the second-half. I just kind of want to get a sense for like your level of confidence in the DRAM and NAND mix in the categories that I guess the revenue through the second-half?

Timothy Stultz

Yes. Let me see if I can get closer to what you are trying to get here. So that we have five 3D-NAND customers, two of them were very strong this last quarter. But we have three others where that will be taking products. And we expect some spending in the second-half of the year on 3D-NAND. We have a couple of DRAM customers and we expect some spending in that area to strengthen, which gives us - brings another customer to the matrix.

And we also have one major foundry customer as well, so a couple of smaller ones. But we expect foundry to increase. And so, we have confidence in foundry and DRAM. And we have pretty decent visibility. And we see additional contribution in 3D-NAND from some of the other ones that weren’t as strong as last quarter.

Weston Twigg

That is very helpful. Thank you.


Thank you. Our next question is from David Wu of Indaba Global Research. Your line is open.

David Wu

Yes. Good afternoon. I just wondered, at this point do you have any visibility into Q4 to ensure us that the uptrend in revenue continues from the level of Q3 based on DRAM spending and possibly some catch-up in foundry in 10-nanometer and 20-nanometer nodes?

Timothy Stultz

And so, David, that’s a good question. And we certainly have some visibility in Q4, but our industry is one of those ones where the visibility isn’t as crisp as you’d like it to be. But there is also the timing of some of the tools we’re shipping out with the new products, the Atlas III that have to go through or sending those to multiple customers. And there is a revenue recognition element with new installations that get tied in and some of it could be Q3, some of it will be in Q4.

We have a very high confidence that second-half will be stronger than the first-half. And then obviously we have confidence in our guidance on Q3. And we also believe that our year on year, our performance is going to be at least cresting in the double-digit performance.

So we have a pretty good confidence in the overall business, a little bit of the timing uncertainty between Q3, Q4. And then Q4 is starting to come into more clarity, but there is still more to be sussed out.

David Wu

If I were to look at your guidance for Q3 and by implication Q4, the only reason why you’re not showing double-digit guidance for Q3 really is that the while the DRAMS and the foundries are ramping up your 3D-NAND businesses peaked in Q2, and shipments second-half in both third quarter and probably fourth quarter can be below the level of second quarter. Is that generally accurate?

Timothy Stultz

No, I think there is a different mix and I think part of it is just the timing of the investments in the new ramps. 3D-NAND again just kind of - I know I’m repeating myself, but 3D-NAND has been very robust for us for - going on three quarters now. And I think that there is not a full appreciation of the fact that 3D-NAND should be fairly stronger than the second-half. There was some concern in the industry that 3D-NAND was going to roll off pretty far - drop down. But we’re kind of looking at 3D-NAND be more like a 60/40 split first-half and second-half.

And if I look at kind of the DRAM it’s the other way around, on the order of a 40/60 split, first-half to second-half. And foundry, we think could be as high as like 30/70, first-half to second-half. So we see strength in foundry, improving DRAM and continued spending on 3D-NAND, because there are so many big players in it.

David Wu

Okay. And last question is the Intel 3D-NAND startup at Dalian, those orders already shown up in your books, right, as opposed to still to come?

Timothy Stultz

Yes, although, we don’t - I’m assuming you mean revenues, because we don’t report on orders, David. But, yes, we are shipping tools, installing tools and benefiting from the Dalian fab. We’re looking forward to that phase, the first phase to be closed out. And we’re hopeful that as that customer starts to see yield, that is their second phase which is planned, starts to benefit us in the not too distant future.

David Wu

Thank you.

Timothy Stultz

All right.


Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Mr. Mark Miller of Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

Mark Miller

I was just wondering if you could break out the sales to TSMC and Hynix last quarter, what percent?

Jeffrey Andreson

If they don’t make 10%, we don’t break them out, Mark. And so the only thing that we had for - right, for Micron and Intel, they’ve crested 10%.

Mark Miller

Okay. Deferred revenues doubled in the quarter from what they were at when the 2015 ended. I assume that’s the Atlas tools that are needed to be recognized, most of that increase?

Jeffrey Andreson

Yes, most of that increase are the Atlas III tools that are pending acceptance.

Mark Miller

Okay. And then finally, because it jumped around so much last year, tax rate guidance, it was up last quarter. What do you expect for the second-half of the year?

Jeffrey Andreson

21% to 22%. And for the full year, based on the guidance I provided last time it’s about the exact same level, it’s just the timing shift between the quarters.

Mark Miller

Okay. Thank you.

Jeffrey Andreson



Thank you. At this time, I see no other questions in queue. I’d like to turn the call back to Mr. Timothy Stultz for any closing remarks.

Timothy Stultz

Thank you. And thank you once again for participating in our call. A special thanks and continued appreciation to all our employees and our business partners, whose passion and commitment, hard work and support of our mission and business objectives are helping to build a better Nanometrics each and every day. With that, we conclude our conference call for today. Thank you.


Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the program. You may all disconnect.

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