MiMedx Group's (MDXG) CEO Pete Petit on Q4 2016 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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MiMedx Group Inc (NASDAQ:MDXG)

Q4 2016 Earnings Conference Call

February 23, 2017 10:30 AM ET

Executives

Thornton Kuntz - SVP, Administration

Pete Petit - Chairman and CEO

William Taylor - President and COO

Christopher Cashman - Chief Commercialization Officer

Michael Senken - Chief Financial Officer

Analysts

Mike Matson - Needham & Company

Matt Hewitt - Craig-Hallum Capital

Bruce Jackson - Lake Street Capital Markets

Joe Munda - First Analysis

Jason Wittes - Aegis Capital

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the MiMedx Group, Incorporated Q4 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded.

I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Thornton Kuntz, you may begin, sir.

Thornton Kuntz

Thank you, Kent. Good morning, everyone. This presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These statements are based upon the current beliefs and expectations of our management, and are subject to risks and uncertainties.

Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in, contemplated by, or underlying the forward-looking statements, based on factors described in this conference call and in our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2015 and our most recent 10-Q.

We do not undertake to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as may be required by the Company's disclosure obligations and filing it makes with the Securities and Exchange Commission under Federal Securities laws.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Pete Petit, MiMedx’s Chairman and CEO.

Pete Petit

Good morning. Thank you for joining us for our 2016 year-end conference call. I have with me Bill Taylor, our President and Chief Operating Officer; Mike Senken, our Chief Financial Officer; Chris Cashman, one of our Executive Vice Presidents and the other Executive VPs and some other executives also in the room with us. I'll make some comments about our 2016 results, our fourth quarter results and our outlook for 2017. Also, I will give some updates on our law for discharged lawsuits.

I'm going to start by giving you some additional information on the small revenue reduction for Q4 that we've just announced. First, in my 35-years of been a Chairman and/or CEO of AvKare public companies, this is the first reduction of a preliminary revenue release that we can recall. Even though it's a minor amount of minor revenue about six tens of a percent, we do not like issues of this nature to ever develop. This issue came up late in our detailed review process of AvKare’s inventory. This resulted from a February 2016 contract amendment to our longstanding AvKare agreement clarifying the wind down details.

As you may recall, AvKare's has been our distributor for best of the administration and Department of Defense Hospitals for over four years. Approximately two years ago we decided we should have our own Federal Supply Schedule number. And once it was issued, we notified AvKare and we begin to place over to our own FSS number. As transition began slowly but our AvKare contract will expire on June 30, 2017 with a three month wind down period through September 30, 2017. At that point, we’re required to repurchase any inventory of AvKare's that may be remaining, which we expect to be minimal. Because the end of the contract is nearing, we felt it was prudent to increase our sales returns and allowance for reserves for safety for AvKare, which has the effect of reducing our Q4 revenue by $1.8 million.

Over the last year, we’ve continued to actively reduce the inventory to AvKare’s purchase, which is located approximately 100 VA facilities around the country. If we assist AvKare in doing an effective job reducing its inventories some of that reserve will flow back into our revenue.

We consider 2016 as an excellent performance year for MiMediX, particularly related to our revenue growth. As we informed shareholders earlier in the year, our profits growth were not be as robust because we've made conscious decisions to speed up the introduction of three new product lines and associated expenses with those. That was accomplished, and we believe it will pay reward for us beginning in 2017. Also be aware that we've made major investments in our sales management systems in early 2016. I would highlight that those new systems played a major role in our revenue growth during remainder of the year. Our systems now give us very adequate insight into each of our sales territories and assist management with the planning process immensely.

We've had some changes in the sales management as the year progress, because some individuals are more astute relative to the management scales than others, and we've made those adjustments as the availability of our new system has helped highlight skill sets of our numerous sales personnel. As always, some individuals might aspire the management but find out it would rather be responsible just for themselves only and go back into their very effective roles as a territory manager of themselves. These are the normal adjustments to the fast growth organization.

Now, we've made some other adjustments in our overall management structure as we're thinking to integrate the accountability and responsibilities for Wound Care, as well as our very surgical procedures. Bill Taylor and Chris Katz will discuss those issues in more detail.

Looking back into 2016, you recall that our first quarter was the first time we missed our revenue estimates in what now is 21 consecutive quarter. However, as we told you we would, we immediately made the corrections and during the next two quarters we exceeded our revenue guidance. As we have previously discussed, we have [5.28] [maniacally] [indiscernible] focused on our gross product margins. In 2016, we maintained those margins at 87% that came down somewhat because Stability Biologics has lower gross margins on some of their products, mainly the cadaveric tissue products. They have high gross product margins on their Physio product, but they ship on towards the laid on Phsyio during the latter part of the year due to production constraints.

We had to make some changes in management at their production necessarily and also some changes in their quality systems, which laid production of some product lines. We feel those conditions have been corrected, and they're now back in full production status. Even with the reduced profitability in 2016, we had a strong year in terms of our cash build-up. As you’re well aware, we often utilize our excess cash to purchase MiMedx stock in the market. This has proven to be an excellent investment for our shareholders, and we anticipate continuing to do so.

As 2017 unfolds, we will continue to build cash at a strong rate due to our increased profitability. We certainly view our stock is currently very undervalued, therefore, we'll continue to make those purchases. Note that our Board has just authorized another $10 million of purchases for this program.

As we look at our 2017 forecast, I'll call your attention again to the significant increase in operating profit margins, EBITDA and earnings per share. As I mentioned, 2016 profitability was reduced somewhat as we speed up the introduction of these three new product lines. As we enter 2017, those accelerated expenses are behind us, and you should begin to see our cover accelerate as the year progresses. Overall, we should see 90% increase in operating profits as 2017 unfolds. That metric will certainly gain some attention.

As we previously disclosed, we expect adjusted EBITDA for 2017 to be in the range of 22% to 24% of revenues, which will, as I've said, be reflected in significant cash build-up during the year. As I've mentioned numerous times, MiMedx should be able to produce half year in profit and EBITDA margins as a percent of revenue, certainly about 30% in years ahead. That would become quite evident as we began to slowdown our infrastructure and project investments in the future.

You’ve seen the press release that was published on December 27, 2016 relative to the audit committee and the Board’s preliminary filings relative to allegations made in the filing of the [indiscernible] [7.51] against MiMedx related to two terminated employees. As we told you some time ago, as management position as the allegations are not factions, and our audit committee has been busy with numerous entities and data gathering supported by outside council and our auditors. They will publish their final report after we issue our 10-K filing, which will occur shortly.

As a public company, we have to endure the media reporting of the allegations, even if they are false and not substantiated. However, I believe MiMedx’s reputation of its executives and board is such that this nonsense will soon dissipate. If you simply ask a question, what are the risks of these allegations to MiMedx, I believe it's really just the public relations aspects. However, we would be with our damages and legal aspects of these false allegations in due time.

MiMedx has dealt with these lawsuits in a very professional straight-forward manner and will move forward having had all of our process and procedures and actions reviewed in a proper and effective manner. We should also note that most recently the federal court and one of the former employees’ lawsuits enter the consent order to joining that former employee from engaging in certain behavior seem to be a violation of this restricted covenant agreements with the Company. We consider this an important victory in pursuing our claims in this case. We expect other victories to fall in quick succession.

Strong performance and leadership attracts attention, both year-end by it. As I've said before, broad markets have a lot of worry, so do both stocks. We have resolved each problem as they shown up, and we will continue to do so. Management is very optimistic about our prospects in 2017. So, let's hear from Bill, Chris and Mike now. Bill?

William Taylor

Thanks Pete. Well, first of all, I'm going to thank all the MiMedx associates for all their hard work over the past years. I also thank all of the healthcare providers that use our products and for your dedication and passion to help people heal. Lastly, I would like to thank our shareholders for believing in our products and our theme. We've had a great run over the past several years and the best is yet to come. We've had a number of distractions over last years and I think our team has done a very good job in ignoring those distractions and maintaining their focus on ensuring people in need of our products have access to.

The last year was a solid year in many respects. First, over the 30% revenue growth is a challenge, not only from a sales standpoint but also from an organizational standpoint. We invested in the business at a higher rate than we originally anticipated as we've discussed in our earlier quarterly calls. These investments include expansion of our sales force, as well as investment related to acceleration of certain new product initiatives. By solidifying these early 2016 investments, we have a solid base to continue our strong growth with this year projecting to be in excess of 20% revenue growth.

At this time last year, we were around 240 sales professionals in the field. And today, we have approximately 320, that's an 85% increase. These additions were both in our Wound Care and our SSOs. We utilized our informatics team to analyze various public datasets to understand the trends and underlying disease state in a given geographic area, and we use this data to plan our future growth in our overall territory management as continue to grow. Our quarter-by-quarter plan suggest that we're going to need to hire another 40-50 sales professionals before the end of this year, and the territories can easily handle that expansion and more.

Turning now to intellectual properties, we have 40 issued and allowed placental tissue patents. We also have an additional 75 or so that are patent applications, which are pending. Everyone on this call knows that MiMedix has certain several of our patents against various infringes across the country. Those lawsuits are going well and we have several positive things to report. In two of our primary lawsuits, we successfully obtained favorable claim construction decisions.

The claim construction phase of litigation sets the boundaries regarding the way the claims in the patents are to be construed. This then becomes the basis for determining how an entity infringes the patent. In both cases I just mentioned, the judge essentially adapted MiMedix's claim construction arguments, which are significant wins on our part and should help in our eventual trials later this year.

Additionally, one of the parties in one of our core patent lawsuits was in essence forced to change their processes as a result of our suit by employing a procedure that does not appear to violate our patents. We believe this change is a direct result of our suits, and review this competitive action as a significant business win since the resulting allographs are not just clinically and therapeutically effective as those offered and protected by MiMedix. To that end, I expect we will start to see companies attempt to avoid our IP and try to make grasp that look more like undisturbed placental tissue.

The challenge with this approach is that in order to properly clean it in this configuration for safety, you have to process it with harsh chemicals. This then significantly reduces the ability of the tissue to retain any growth factors and the key elements that enable wound healing. We have already analyzed graphs made by processes like this, and the test results indicates that they have significantly reduced the growth factors leaving essentially just the tissue behind. I expect that overtime we will be hearing of companies marketing these intact graph sets, second generation or new generation. But regardless of the marketing monitor, these so called second generation graphs are a step-back in processing on a significantly inferior to MiMedix’s allographs.

Now, I think this is a good lead into discussing the new USP, US Pharmacopeia monograph, or dHACM, Dehydrated Human Amnion/Chorion Membrane that MiMedix recently received. It took us about five years net interest working with USP to develop this monograph. Now, understand that this is a specific monograph to dHACM, the MiMedix product, and the graphs I just mentioned from competitors who do not take the layers apart to process cannot meet the specifications in this monograph.

This monograph outlines the specific configuration of the product, the specifications, the packaging, the storage and the labeling requirements for such a product. There are also very complicated validation tests, procedures for the test and acceptance criteria that together make-up this specification. The issuance of a monograph is historically for pharmaceuticals, food ingredients, or dietary supplements. There are only a small number of monographs that describe human tissue product.

So, what ultimately does having the USP monograph mean? Well, the bottom line is that our PURION process tissue is the only amniotic based tissue membrane that meets these stringent USP requirements of strength, quality and purity. MiMedix continues to set the standard in our industry as articulated recently by a Medicare administrative contractor medical director in acknowledging our USP monograph. And I also want to follow-up on the press release we sent out regarding the FDAs guidance document agenda for 2017, have reviewed a published calendar year guidance agenda, a calendar for the guidance agenda. This is scheduled or projected release dates of guidance documents, both graph guidance as well as final guidance documents.

The 2017 agenda did not include any reference to the minimal manipulation or homologue issues of HCT/P. This was not a supply to us as we've been told that the FDA received many thousands of comments, the vast majority of them taking issue with the draft guidance as proposed. So, we are very encouraged that the FDA is taking the time to carefully review the input. And based on the calendar years published, we don’t expect any significant updates in this area for about a year or possibly more.

Another consideration that we think is very positive is that the people that are in the current consideration for the position of FDA commissioner generally believe that new technology should be made available to the public once safety is assured, much like with what was stated in the 21st Century Cures Act. So that gives us comfort that we are not likely to see something coming out of last field like the untitled letter or the draft guidance that’s coming in the coming years. That said, we’re still continuing our progress on our injectable BLA, and we've recently completed our efforts to be fully GMP compliant, which is a prerequisite for approaching BLA products. We view this as a tremendous competitive advantage and one that very few tissue companies can match.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Chris.

Christopher Cashman

Thanks Bill, and good Morning. We’re pleased with the progress that we made in the fourth quarter, and for the full-year 2016. We grew 31% year-over-year and grew revenues meaningfully in both of our market processes of Wound Care and SSO. Wound Care grew 32% fourth quarter over the prior year's quarter and 30% year-over-year, while SSO grew 44% fourth quarter over the prior year’s quarter and 32% year-over-year.

Fourth quarter is most often the strongest revenue quarter of the year. First quarter is normally the slowest revenue quarter of the year. This is due to multiple headwind factors, such as deductibles are reset, many surgeons take often parts of January after a heavy case-load during the holidays and year-end. The weather can be an issue of course. And this year, specific to MiMedx, a few centers associated with individuals had to let go for selling, competing or other medical products are going through some transitions as we are actively rehiring at each.

We have strong momentum in our business and feel good about the ability to continue to deliver on the revenue growth as we have communicated. We continue to make significant investments in the sales organization, adding more Wound Care account executives and new representatives, supporting our focus into surgery and the expansion of the orthopedic, sports med and spine agency network. We are now at approximately 325 personnel in the sales organization.

We have continued the rationalization of our sales management organization. We've integrated the management of our sales teams under the leadership of an area Vice President, while maintaining the specialization of the groups for our Wound and SSO initiatives. This will maximize our coordination within the hospital and the local area. Previously, we had times lack coordination, and then we missed out on additional or expansion area opportunities. This will empower the field sales leaders to communicate better and to make decisions at the local level, while the area Vice President orchestrates the process and we capture those opportunities that we previously might have missed.

We conducted our national team meeting at the end of January. We all continue to be very impressed with the quality of our sales organization. We know the profile that we hire for, however, to have everyone together really amplified the success we've had in attracting the best of the best. We see the culture, energy and integrity of our representatives as a special profile. They are professional, well rounded, broadly experienced, energized to be successful, and passionate about making a difference. The meeting emphasized the planning process and we have long sessions on regional business planning and talent executive strategic account plans.

The key to maintaining our continued growth is focusing on our target accounts and following the planned process. We also have expanded our sales management team in the last six months through both internal promotions and external hires, and we feel we have raised the level of management IQ and experience that we will benefit from.

Now, focusing on Wound. We continue to make significant investments in our sales force, supporting clinical studies, and in our support teams in the contracting and field reimbursement specialist teams. We continued the expansion of our revenues, shows robust growth in all focuses, including hospital, Wound Care centers and physician office. I'd also like to add that we made good progress in the burn area last year. You may have seen our press release, approximately 10 days ago, regarding the publishing of a burn supplement in the Annals of Plastic Surgery.

This was a combination of five peer-reviewed articles by renowned key opinion leaders on various burn and plastic reconstructive uses of our Amnion/Chorion membrane technology platform. It also included the history of the evolution of burn treatments to the current use of the amniotic allographs today and concluded with novel select cases. The EpiBurn line is becoming more widely known and adaptive. We participated last week in the John Boswick Burn & Wound Symposium in Maui. There were seven presentations that shared experience with and discuss the benefits of MiMedix’s enhanced healing products.

We’re pleased with the progress we’re making with burn and plastic reconstructive surgeons alike. The burn market will be a good contributor to revenues this year. Additionally, you may have seen that we announced positive payment policy from Aetna on EpiFix at the end of 2016, and this brings covered lives for EpiFix approaching 300 million.

We made a significant investment in hiring surgical representatives in 2016 to focus on abdominal and pelvic procedures. Many of these territories have built from scratch. So, we’ve made the required investment ahead of the revenue, and are truly taking the appropriate steps in these greenfield areas to engage, train, educate, go through that committees and conduct evaluations that will lay the basis for accelerating revenues in the years to come.

2016 was an investment year and now we expect to see improved traction in 2017 from the education and hospital approvals achieved by our surgical group. Additionally, many case examples and clinical studies will be completed and results published in the first half of 2017 that will help with our growth and support of our strategic plans.

Now, I'd like to take a few minutes and highlight the initiatives that will be our growth drivers for 2017. We launched three new products in 2016 as far as the key investments we made; umbilical board in Q2 under the brands of EpiCord to Wound Care and AmnioCord for surgical uses. And in late Q3, amniotic fluid in the likewise five year shelf table terminally sterilized version. OrthoFlo’s board will be focused in the physician office and pain management market. And finally, also at the end of Q3, we introduced our human collagen placental tissue extracellular matrix platform, brand named AmnioFill for deep chronic wounds and acute dehyd surgical type wounds.

AmnioFill is intended for the use to replace or supplement damage or inadequate integumental tissue. These products will be very important in strengthening our product portfolio, specialty procedural focuses and adding to our continued revenue growth trajectory in ‘17. We will continue to utilize our informatics and analytics teams to plan for continued sales organization expansion.

Directionally, we could add up to 40 to 50 more representatives this year. We are purposefully realigning our Wound Care territories, creating new territories with fewer hospital accounts that we can go deeper into with more attention. Surgically, we will continue to carve-out additional territories as that approvals occur and hospital usage expands. We expect the hiring split to be two-thirds Wound and one third SSO.

There will be many clinical trials that will complete enrollment and publish results in 2017; specifically, our large multicenter studies in diabetic foot ulcers and venous leg ulcer, our Phase IIB plantar fasciitis study, OrthoFlo studies in knee osteoarthritis, AmnioFill studies in joint replacement, colorectal uses, [Indiscernible] [24.53] prostatectomy, and many, many more. We anticipate that each of these clinicals will strengthen the bodies of evidence to help educate providers and drive adoption in our three focuses of wound, operating room, and physician office in pain management.

On the insurance front, with the addition of [indiscernible] [25.12] with the covered lives for EpiFix, MiMedx now has only United, Humana, and [indiscernible] [25.18] left of the larger groups. And that approximately makes up 53 million lives left. These incremental covered patients will be a driver for more patients in 2017.

We are laying the groundwork for international expansion, revenues are not material. However, our footprint in amniotic allograph platform recognition is expanding. We are working in Italy and Switzerland specifically within Europe to be the first country adopters. We are also making progress in smaller West-Pac countries and conducting planning meetings and preparing for regulatory filings with larger countries like Australia and Japan. We will be attending local conferences working with our distribution partners to ensure they have the support and training to be successful in the local markets.

And finally, we will continue to leverage GPO/IDN contracts, which have 5,400 members. These are tiered or soul source contracts with five GPOs and 40 integrated delivered networks. These contracts have proving to be very valuable and create barriers to entry for competitors who don’t have the compendium of clinical and scientific data, terminal sterilization, distribution channel reach of MiMedx nor the education pools and programs. We believe 2017 would be the year when we really start to reap the benefits from investments made in 2016.

Now, I'll turn it over to Mike Senken.

Michael Senken

Thanks, Chris. Good morning. The Company reported revenue for the fourth quarter of approximately $69.9 million, an increase of 35% or $18 million over prior year fourth quarter revenue of $51.8 million. Wound Care revenue was $52.8 million, which represents an increase of 32% over prior year and 5.9% sequentially, the growth driven by addition to our commercial Wound Care sale team.

SSO revenue was $17.1 million, which represents growth of 44% over prior year and an increase of 17% sequentially. Growth in SSO revenue was driven by increased penetration into surgical applications, and new products, such as OrthoFlo Lyophilized.

Sales with Stability Biologics products were below expectations at $1.9 million for the quarter. For the 12 months ended December 31, 2016, reported revenues were $245 million, which represents an increase of $57.7 million or 31% as compared to prior year. Year-to-date Would Care revenue grew 30% to $184 million as compared to $141 million in the prior year, and SSO revenue grew 32% to $61 million as compared to $46.2 million in the prior year.

As discussed in prior earnings conference calls, due to the impact to the results of the acquisition of Stability Biologics that closed on January 13, 2016 and the release of the valuation allowance on the deferred tax assets and its effects on net income in 2015, the Company has decided to include additional adjusted non-GAAP measures in our press release and earnings call to provide the means of comparing normal ongoing operating results on a year-over-year basis. The additional measures include adjusted gross margin, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS to normalized results for comparison purposes in addition to reporting GAAP results. Tables are provided in our press release, which reconcile non-GAAP to GAAP reported results.

GAAP gross margins for the quarter were 87% as compared to 90.4% in the fourth quarter of 2015. 2016 fourth quarter gross margin were impacted by product mix and overhead of absorption issues related to the Stability Biologics' production activity. Management has already taken certain actions to improve these two areas in 2017. On a year-to-date basis, GAAP gross margin was 86.8%, which includes $1.6 million in one-time cost related to the Stability Biologics' acquisitions. Gross margins after adjusting for these one-time costs were 87.4% as compared to gross margins of 89.2% in the prior year. The year-over-year decline of 1.8% is due to product mix and the impact of new product launches. Included in the press release is a reconciliation of GAAP gross margins to adjusted gross margins.

R&D expense for the quarter was approximately $3.5 million or 4.9% of quarterly revenue as compared to $2.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2015. On a year-to-date basis, R&D spending is up $3.6 million or 43.1% over prior year. The year-over-year increase in R&D spending is driven primarily by increased investments in animal studies and clinical trials.

Selling, general and administrative expense was approximately $48.4 million for the quarter or 69.3% of quarterly revenue as compared to $36.5 million or 70.5% of quarterly revenue in 2015. During the quarter, we added 14 direct sales reps, bringing the total direct sales headcount to 304 at September 31, 2016. The year-over-year increase in SG&A spending was due to the continued build-out of our direct sales force in both, Would Care and Surgical markets, new product launch cost, international sales development, government affairs and other support areas, as well as the addition of Stability Biologics’ personnel and associated costs. On a year-to-date basis, SG&A expense was 73.5% as compared to 71.2% in 2015. Included in 2016 SG&A were approximately $1.1 million in one-time costs related to the acquisition of Stability Biologics.

The Company reported positive adjusted EBITDA of $13.9 million for the quarter ended December 31, 2016 as compared to $12.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2015. It is the 20th consecutive quarter of reporting positive adjusted EBITDA. The increase in adjusted EBITDA is a result of increased sales volumes. For the 12-months ended December 31, 2016, adjusted EBITDA was $44.4 million as compared to $44 million in 2015. The increase is driven by increased sales volumes, further offset by investments in our sales force, new product launches and increased investments in clinical trials.

GAAP operating income in the fourth quarter was approximately $8.7 million or 12.5% of quarterly revenue as compared to $7.7 million or 50% of Q4 2015 revenue. On a year-to-date basis, GAAP operating income was $18.4 million or 7.5% of total revenue as compared to $24.4 million or 13% of revenue in 2015. The decline in operating income was driven by the aforementioned increased investments, as well as onetime charges of approximately $2.7 million related to the acquisition of Stability Biologics.

The Company reported GAAP net income for the fourth quarter of approximately $5.5 million or $0.05 per basic and diluted common share as compared to net income of $13.4 million or $0.13 per basic and $0.11 per diluted common share in the fourth quarter of 2015. Fourth quarter 2015 net income included a net credit to income taxes of approximately $5.7 million due to the release of substantial portion of the valuation allowance on our deferred tax assets.

On a non-GAAP basis, after adjusting for onetime items excluding the release of the valuation allowance, fourth quarter adjusted net interest income was $8.1 million or $0.07 per diluted common share as compared to $7.1 million or $0.06 per diluted common share in the fourth quarter of 2015. On a year-to-date basis, adjusted net income was $24.4 million or $0.22 per diluted common share as compared to $24.4 million or $0.21 per diluted common share in 2015. Please refer to the table in our press release for reconciliation of GAAP net income to adjusted net income.

Turning now to our balance sheet, the Company reported approximately $126.5 million in current assets including $34.4 million in cash, $67.2 million in accounts receivable, $17.8 million in inventory and $7.2 million in prepaid expenses and other assets. Day sales outstanding were 86 days as compared to 89 days at the end of the prior quarter. We continue to add collections and field reimbursement staff to improve collection performance as we work to keep pace with the rapid growth of our customer base. We expect to see a continued positive trend in DSOs in subsequent quarters.

Inventory turns was 2.0 for the quarter as compared to 1.7 in the prior quarter. 2016 inventory levels were impacted by the significant number of new products added to our portfolio due to the Stability Biologics acquisition, as well as the previously announced new product launches such as OrthoFlo Lyophilized, EpiCord, AmnioCord and AmnioFill. We expect inventory turns to improve in subsequent quarters.

Goodwill and intangible assets were $20.2 million and $23.3 million respectively as compared to $4 million and $10.8 million at December 31, 2015. The increase was due to the Stability Biologics acquisition. Please note that during the fourth quarter the Company adjusted the fair value of the acquired assets and liabilities after determining that certain Stability Biologics’ products had not reached certain marketability milestones. This adjustment was recorded as a measurement period adjustment. Also, at the time of the acquisition, management believes that certain manufacturing processes were at a standard aligned with our overall Company standards.

Management subsequently concluded that the standards required improvement. These factors have resulted in the lower revenue trajectory in the periods that applied to the earn-outs, thus reducing the fair value of the earn-outs and a reduction in the value of goodwill and intangible assets. As of December 31, 2016, the earn-out based upon 2016 results is estimated at $8.7 million, payable in April 2017 as a 60-40 split in cash and company stock respectively. The present value of the 2017 estimated earn-out is approximately $8.7 million.

Current liabilities were $50.7 million as compared to $26.8 million at December 31, 2015 with the increase driven by normal growth in the business, as well as the aforementioned earn-out liability and income taxes payable now that the majority of our net operating loss carry-forwards have been utilized.

Turning now to the statement of cash flow, the Company reported positive cash flow from operating activities of approximately $16.7 million for the quarter as compared to $4.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2015. Contributing to the improved year-over-year performance is better collections of accounts receivable as reflected in the 86 day DSO as of year-end 2016 versus 93 days as of December 31, 2015. Cash flows used for investing activities for the quarter were $1.3 million, driven primarily by $1 million in capital expenditures.

Turning to our guidance, MiMedix reiterates first quarter revenue to be in the range $69.5 million to $72.5 million, and full year revenue to be in the range of $302 million to $307 million. The Company is reiterating our previously announced full year 2016 fully diluted GAAP EPS estimated at between $0.18 to $0.20 and adjusted EPS estimated to be in the range of $0.31 to $0.33. We see the tables included in our press release are a reconciliation of GAAP EPS to adjusted EPS.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Pete.

Pete Petit

Thank you, Bill, Chris, Mike. Let's just open the call to questions and answers please.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mike Matson with Needham & Company.

Mike Matson

I guess I just wanted to start with the $1.8 million revenue reduction. So, just curious is that related at all to this channel stuffing allegation and the subsequent investigation?

Pete Petit

The answer to that is no. It's related to -- as we stated the termination of the date of AvKare contract and the legal agreement associated with that.

Mike Matson

But I guess why take the revenue back now versus in ’17 when the distribution agreement actually ends, I guess?

Michael Senken

According to GAAP, we have to estimate what the liability will be at the end of the contract. And because we basically shift the product in 2016 because that you are shipping with a right to return, you basically have to reserve for whatever you think is going to be return. Now, speaking to the timing of this, we attempted to estimate as best as possible what we thought was in the AvKare inventory prior to that pre-release of revenue. But as Pete mentioned earlier, our inventory is in 100 different facilities and a number of different departments within those facilities.

And so we undertook a process over the course of January in terms of someone's validating what could figure out in terms of what was sitting in stock, looking at it in terms of what the demand was and what the usage was in each one of those facilities. And then came to this conclusion that, conservatively speaking, we wanted to make sure that we had everything covered. And so, it was really from a GAAP perspective that we had to go through that process. Quite frankly, our thoughts internally are that there is enough demand out there that most, if not all, of that product can be utilized. But again, you have to be somewhat conservative, and that's where we were.

We just got caught up in a desire to give us deal to the street in terms of where we were leading into J. P. Morgan, because of this unique singular contract but event, which shouldn’t occur again, we shouldn’t have that repeat itself.

Mike Matson

So, I guess you didn’t know that you’re going to have to go through this exercise when you pre-announced or if you did know you just didn’t realize it was going to be this material, I guess, the amount that you had to increase the reserves by?

Michael Senken

Well, again, when you talk about the complexity of trying to go out and determine what's in that inventory across the country, you do the best estimates you can leading up to that point. But quite frankly, we wanted to be -- and part of this is you also have to look at what's happening with the rate of implants at all of these different facilities. And these things can change dramatically one way or the other. And so, it's not as easy to estimate as you might think.

Pete Petit

Mike its Pete. This contract is going on for some years it's been very smooth, generally speaking, strong relationship between both the distributors, and ourselves and the VA facilities. But it's coming to an end it's coming to an end in June 30th. And with that particular closure to the contract that require some extra analysis and scrutiny. So, the process, there is no issue here in terms of demand falling off or some of set of issues. It's the fact that contracts coming to closure. And in so doing, the accounting raise, GAAP, et cetera required us to do certain things.

And in our desire to try to keep shareholders always very informed, we have traditionally given some insight into quarterly revenues within a shortest period of time as we could at the end of the quarter. And like I said, it started out, I’ve never had my 35 years of running probably Company something like this come up. It's a small amount six tens of percent. But the fact is it's a change and no one likes change. But facts are this is a contract coming to closure, coming to end. And as such, we have to do some extra work here.

Michael Senken

I think one of the thing to point out just logistically as we're affecting these transitions, Mike. You have numerous faculties and you put schedules together in terms of which facilities are basic are we going to be 100% shifted over to the MiMedix FSS schedule versus those that are on the AvKare FSS schedule. And part of the issue is you're dealing with multiple parties here. We're dealing with AvKare we're also dealing with each individual facility. And again, there is complexity in trying to predict which way or the timing exactly of which facility is going to move when. And that was partially the reason for the revised estimate.

Mike Matson

And just as related question then I guess just looking at the fourth quarter, you saw a pretty healthy acceleration, I know part of that was probably comps. But just what growth rate should we use to evaluate your true underlying organic growth in the fourth quarter. Should we really take out this $1.8 million? Or -- because it sounds like that wasn't necessarily revenue that had originally been booked in the fourth quarter, maybe it was spread throughout the year, prior years or something like that. So was your growth really more like 38% I think was what you originally reported?

Michael Senken

I guess, the growth if we look at commercial versus federal, what we’ve saying our calls is that what's really driving the growth, especially as we're going through this transition with the VA accounts is on the commercial side. And to a certain degree you almost have to push to the side in the short-term of the sales of these government facilities. Our guidance for '17 remains where it is, on the Wound Care side. And so, this adjust does nothing to that guidance. And we felt that in our guidance we had Wound Care growth in the 25% to 30% range, and we’re not backing off of that.

Mike Matson

And then just with regard to the reps, it sounds like maybe some of the fall-out from this investigation you discovered some that you had additional reps that were selling competing products. So can you quantify how many of those reps or what portion of your sales-force had to be replaced because of those issues aside from the couple of that were involved in this lawsuit?

Pete Petit

Really the thing is well known we terminated four and five law suits against them. We've terminated some others and didn’t file lawsuits, because we felt that they hadn’t reached point of -- the thing is problematic. And then we've had some others that came clean with us. We said people that and said just tell us the truth, and will go from there. Most of these others all didn’t tell us the truth, they were continued to dig deeper with their lives. And a few that came clean with us, they are still here. They were disciplined and very frankly to have a still be a dollar company.

But we’ve terminated approximately 10 individuals in total and filed lawsuits against four, and then fifth lawsuit against the person been with us two years ago that we let go that was also involved in the process. Out of 300 and some-odd sales people to me I just view this as a tuning process. It's very important it happened, extremely important. And mostly disappointing to me is the likely integrity that we uncovered the process mainly. That's behind us and we're moving ahead.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Hewitt with Craig-Hallum Capital.

Matt Hewitt

A couple from me, regarding the conversion from AvKare to your own federal supply schedule number. Where are you in that process, how much is left to go as from customer standpoint? Has the majority of that been done or your schedule is now being used for the bulk of that? Or is there still a little bit of heavy lifting to go here in the first quarter maybe?

William Taylor

We've got more than half of its converted now. So I think we’re in pretty good shape between now and June to finish that. And as Mike said, I think our -- also we recently received a BPA, Blanket Purchase Agreement, it was in December on our FSS that eluded to actually going to make things in our view run a little smooth, more smoothly, and make it easier for lot of the accounts that ordered through us. But as we do our jobs well, operationally, we should be able to be at a point where in June there is virtually zero with that AvKare inventory remaining. And it’d be completely converted over to ours. And I think we might be able to get a little bit of an upside plus we have little bit better margins obviously when we're selling direct as opposed through distributor. So that would be beneficial for us as well.

Matt Hewitt

And then just out of curiosity, so you guys updated your sales system, I think that was early last year. And I'm curious if that upgrade enabled you to find some of these issues that you've had with the few select individuals?

William Taylor

One thing I think people forget is we're a manufacturer such we produce products. But in our IP department, which our reports them to Debbie Dean, there were individuals there they came from our prior company. Prior company had one of the largest healthcare informatics groups in the country and we were one of the largest producers of that kind of information. So, we have a tremendous amount of IT expertise and systems here and data, which we translated information in our back-office. And it's quite an asset for us and we use it in many different ways. So, yes, finally once we got a little insight into some of that's going on and allowed us to really turn-up an amazing amount of information, which was of course generally disappointing.

Matt Hewitt

One last one from me. One of your two major partners had some significant disruptions in the fourth quarter, a facility being shutdown that impacted their ability to supply surgeons and all of that. I'm curious if that had any impact on your sales through that partnership? Thank you.

Christopher Cashman

In general, I would say, we haven't seen a lot of disruption in our activities with them. It's very specific to the office based sales force that they have on the AmnioFlo product. And then of course they have the sheet as well, so minimal disruption from our standpoint.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bruce Jackson with Lake Street Capital Markets.

Bruce Jackson

If we could just take a look at the Wound Care business real fast, it's been a tremendous growth driver for the past couple of years. Can you just give us your thoughts on how much runway is left for this business? I know there are a couple of [53.10] [indiscernible] contracts you have not obtained yet. There are some secondary markets you can expand into. But just tell us how much business you think is left to go out there and obtain?

Christopher Cashman

Well, we get that question a lot, Bruce. This is Chris. As we continue to talk about, and Mike rightfully stated, our Wound Care growth truly is coming at commercial aspect. With the contract that we have, we have a much greater leverage within the hospitals to work with them, being sole source or tiered contracts. The reason that we continue to expand on our sales force is because there is so much patient opportunity there that need healing products like EpiFix. I am going to give you just a couple of quick numbers, and then you'll see what I mean.

There is, every year, approximately 3 million chronic non-healing wounds. Of that, 1.4 million of them are diabetic foot ulcers and venues leg ulcers; again, chronic non-healing. We estimate looking at the data and the procedural data that there is somewhere between 100,000 to 150,000 patients that ever get any skin substitute, any. So, as we put those numbers down, we’ll just use the high 150,000 patients a year get treated with something, there is 3 million chronic out there. So this is why there is a huge opportunity, and this is why we continue to expand at a rapid pace.

Pete Petit

Now, if I can just add just shorter is, last year in ’15 and we’ll get the numbers for ’16 here shortly. The underlying condition of those non-healing wounds only grew in the neighborhood of 2% or 3%, but the market for advanced in substitutes grew in the neighborhood of 12% to 13%. So, what that means is what we are doing, we’re leading the charge of expanding the market and getting more people access to this technology. So that just further goes on to Chris’s point there -- sorry to interrupt Chris…

Christopher Cashman

No, it's a great point. I’ll just give you the hard number. In 2015, I think $587 million was spent on skin substitutes. We expect this year, this past year 2016, it’d probably be somewhere around $640 million to $650 million. And it's being estimated that within four years, 2020, there will be 1.1 billion one spent. Now, that's not just MiMedx in everything that’s taking market share away, although we're doing that at a fairly quick cliff. We’re over 30% market share now. But it is also estimated that amniotic tissue, in general, will make-up over half of that spend by 2020.

Today, we are about two-thirds to 70% of all amniotic expenditure in the marketplace. So, it gives you an example of the position that we have and the rate of change that’s happening. It's not just taking share away, but it's truly expansionary.

Pete Petit

So, the other factors that go into this are education, its coverage. And again, because of the contracts and the people that we’re hiring we’re able to go into these secondary tertiary markets. And I stated in my earlier comments about having smaller territories and being able to go deeper within those territories.

Christopher Cashman

And really our informatics too has really shown us that in terms of the penetration across the country, there is still a large number of pockets in the country where our products aren’t being used at all. We don’t have good sales coverage. We have a number of even smaller cities where we may have the analytics tell us we should have four people in that area we may only have one person in that area. And that's even in like the secondary city-type area that's just there is so many opportunities out there that as we get deeper we in our analytics, we find that the opportunities are just so broad that we've got a number of years of runway to go before we’re going to level out. And we view those analytics to really inform us over the next four to five quarters where we know where we’re placing people, and how many we’re putting quarter-by-quarter.

Bruce Jackson

And a follow-up to that, so roughly 70% of your incremental growth has been coming out of the Wound Care side. How do you see that playing out over the next couple of years? is Wound Care still going to be the primary driver of this business? Or it is both the FSS business tried to step-up a little bit in terms of the revenue contribution, and if you could also comment on the international financials that would be helpful?

Pete Petit

Well, I’ll make some statements and then Mike can jump in, if I get some numbers wrong. First of all, as we said earlier, we expect to grow in that 25% to 30% range this year on Wound Care. We think over the next four years we can keep it certainly in the double-digit range, and over 20% I think is what we're estimating where we end up somewhere around $300 million to $330 million by 2020. So, we're going to continue on this track.

But additionally as you've seen, we've expanded now to a third leg of our focuses, operating room has certainly been one to SSO. And we're going to continue to hire, both direct representatives for that operating room, as well as managing orthopedic agents. But another piece -- and that group will continue to grow meaningfully.

The third piece is in the physician office and pain management area. With the advent of OrthoFlo, our amniotic fluid products come into market, as well as the clinical trials that we have running both on our AmnioFix Sports as well as OrthoFlo. We've got a lot of good data that will be coming out throughout 2017. And actually we'll probably be looking at the plantar fasciitis data sometime in the second quarter of this year most likely and then OrthoFlo data on the knee will also be again un-blinding somewhere around the same time.

So, this year is a investment year for OrthoFlo and for that office based focus. We’ll be utilizing agents initially, as well as some direct representatives. And we're going to build that out. But we do see that being a significant driver for us as we go through our five year plan into 2020.

Bruce Jackson

Okay. And then the international piece of it?

Michael Senken

Sure. Internationally, we're going to continue to focus in the EU, as I said, both Switzerland and Italy. Our earlier -- historically we’re earlier adaptors of new generation type products and especially in this biologic space. So we're going to focus there. We're going to go through process with NICE in the UK. We have evaluations going there in the planning and taking off phase. So, the UK may move a little slow on the wound side, but we still can sell AmnioFix there. And we're also looking at the urology market in the UK.

So, those will be the three drivers in the EU. Outside of that in the West-Pac, we’re in countries like New Zealand now and Korea, and we're just starting to develop those relationships and go to market. And as I said earlier, we're working on other regulatory filings, both in the smaller countries but then also in the bigger ones like Australia, which we're excited about. We have a great partner there and we're looking to do something as launch and eventually.

Bruce Jackson

Just one more if you don't mind. What was the amount of international revenue in the quarter just as a percent of the total?

Michael Senken

Very small.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Wittes with Aegis Capital. Jason, your line is open. You can ask your question.

Thornton Kuntz

Are you on mute, Jason?

Operator

Did you want me to go ahead and move onto the next questioner?

Thornton Kuntz

Yes, please. Hopefully, he can dial back in. But yes, please move on.

Operator

And our next question comes from Joe Munda with First Analysis.

JoeMunda

Real quick on AvKare, you broke out how much they contributed to revenue in '15 and receivables, it was roughly 25%. I was wondering if you had a number for '16, as well as how much inventory they have left as a result of the transition?

Michael Senken

Well, I can't tell you Joe that AvKare will not be -- you have a requirement to report any customer that represents 10% or more of your revenue. And AvKare will not see reported separately for '16. That much I can tell you. As far as their inventory goes, that's really a matter I think between us and the customer. And we would like to keep that confidential.

Joe Munda

Mike, maybe you could walk us through little bit of better detail the mechanics from mechanic standpoint, the relationship with AvKare. From my understanding if you ship, there is no returns on your end. But let's say if VA facility were to return, would AvKare assume possession of that product?

Michael Senken

So, in our relationship with AvKare, AvKare issues us a purchase order and we ship product. So AvKare takes possession of it at the time we ship it.

Joe Munda

But they are actually physical possessions?

Michael Senken

Well, yes. Drop ship to a facility. So AvKare has inventory locations. They don’t have a warehouse. This is inventory that again is spread amongst 100 plus different local -- well, it was 100 plus but we have been converting facilities. And so physically the inventory is at these different facilities, and again not only in one department but in multiple departments. So, the tracking of inventory can be somewhat of a challenge, as we’re learning now we’re picking up direct shipments to the different VAs. And what's that other part of that question?

Joe Munda

And if so with one of those facilities were to return the product, who would assume responsibility, AvKare?

Michael Senken

That is AvKare's responsibility.

Joe Munda

Okay.

Michael Senken

Now, Joe, what all of this relates to is in our contract with AvKare at the termination of the contract, we have the obligation to buyback any remaining inventory that basically is out of these VA facilities. And so, as we get closer to the termination of the contract -- and quite frankly over the course of the year and we've extended this contract with AvKare several times, we make decisions as to whether or not we retain a customer or not retain a customer. And so it's not as predictable as you would think. We probably would have said earlier in 2016 what's the likelihood of us renewing that contract, and probably the answer would have been very high.

But as time goes on and different things change and we get more comfortable with shipping direct and the like so then that changes. But at the end of the day, we're getting within -- the contract terminates at the end of June and then there is a 90-day run out period, you have to start paying attention to what is out there and will you have a responsibility for it and that what we did. And it's not an easy process, and you've got multiple facilities. You've got a sales force that’s out there doing other things, and then you have to dedicate a lot of resources to make sure that we are working in conjunction with AvKare and figuring out what is in their stock. And that's when you come up with okay, it looks like to be conservative, we're going to have to book some more returns and allowances.

Pete Petit

And Joe there is some administrative process here, taking what Mike I think say, and you take the sales person that person have to direct at a little more specifically towards particular count and reducing inventory, AvKare inventory, et cetera. That’s something we have to plan and execute on very carefully, which we're good at. But at same time just take some extra effort, so on the federal side.

Joe Munda

As far as the terminated personnel, just taking a quick look on LinkedIn, I mean all four of them seem to be from the Midwestern region. And I was just wondering; A, how much the Midwest was a contributor to overall revenue; and B, I mean, if we could get to more granular level, how much revenue did these four rest contribute to the overall '16 number?

Pete Petit

First of all, not a LinkedIn guy, but you're correct. And three of those four individuals had worked together previously and so on. So, there is old friendships there that kind of seem to stimulate this kind of activity, so that's that. I don't know that we -- anybody sitting in this room at the moment…

William Taylor

No, we don't typically break down those kind of things.

Christopher Cashman

Yes, competitively, we wouldn’t break that down, but they're different size customers. And as I said, we're actively working. We have a plan and some people been hired and others will get the right resources in there.

Pete Petit

Again, I would just encourage everybody to realize and remember, we've been pretty effective and we have these pebbles show up in the path of working through them kicking aside and moving on, and that's happening here. And I don't think we'll be coming back to you with some big excuses of, oh well, this happened and that happened. So, we plan well and we execute well. And every now and then we don’t have a pick-up. But I think this will be behind us pretty quickly here and the litigation piece will also get behind us pretty quickly. We're litigating these. We already had success right here in Atlanta that will court and expect those tenant success to continue.

Joe Munda

And my last question Pete, I want to get your took on the push-out of the draft guidance based on the calendar that Bill had talked about. In my view, if they were to finalize guidance, it would be more of a mode or a protected barrier for you guys, competitive barriers for you guys. And I was just wondering I mean do you look at it that way in the sense that based on your companion data that you probably be better served if the guidance were to come and start to undergoing that process rather than having it being pushed out perhaps a year or two years, if you will. Just love to get your thoughts on that?

Pete Petit

Joe, you're correct. We've tried to signal clearly. MiMedix is well positioned either way that these guidance documents might change. We're way ahead of everybody by years in terms of a BLA. Our plant in the matter of next few weeks will be GMP or rather…

Michael Senken

Already there actually…

Pete Petit

So well they don’t just give me an update. We're well ahead there. So we're positioned either way. On the other hand, it still pains us thinking back three and half years ago, we were signaled out with this first initiative by the AHC. And we've got enough -- plenty of information that materials to know that organic genesis had a great deal to do with that. So we feel like for the first year and half there almost, we were standing alone. And then they put out the guidance document, which should allow the whole industry to get focused on it. And since then, it's been a lot of progress made in terms the whole industry saying what are you doing.

Now, remember President Trump has said to these federal agencies well if you change one regulation you have to knock-off two. So, I think some of this jealousness that frankly has been with executives as we tell you, overly jealous, is perhaps going to temper a little bit. So we’ll see what happens. But the key is we're planning both pathways and we’re ready to go either way and well positioned to go either way. So it's becoming less of a focus for us as it was 3.5 years ago 2.5 years ago and so on.

William Taylor

And I just like to add one thing Joe too is we mentioned before. We would actually like to see the FDA add a category of products in between HCT/P and BLA that have new regulation that would not be quite as onerous as the BLA, but would certainly be more onerous than HCT/P. We think there are a lot of these products that the FDA and we agree it should be more highly regulated. And I think that's going to benefit us. Our preference is to do it that way because that new regulation goes through the right process as opposed to try to influence regulations with guidance documents that’s never really good to do that. So we're actually talking with various folks on the user fee legislation to see if there is something in there that they could utilize to help insert them with the some new regulations in line with what we're talking about right now.

Pete Petit

And that's where that 21st century bill is headed and that's setting some intermediate approval processes between the two extremes, and that would be something we would certainly and did support.

Joe Munda

Mike, if I can just one more. You’ve a full-year number for Stability, and I was wondering based on the 2017 guidance. Can you give us some ballpark percentage revenue or actual range expected contributions for Stability in 2017? Thanks.

Michael Senken

So in 2016, the total revenue was $11 million and we had in our nominal forecast has them at $15 million. And so we've taken a conservative approach for ’17. And I think in our earn-out projections, we have them at I believe it's $14 million.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Wittes with Aegis Capital.

Jason Wittes

So, I know it's been a lot of questions about AvKare. I got on a little late. But I know the impact is for the stocking right now. But can you give us a sense of what the annual revenue contribution was in 2016 from AvKare?

Michael Senken

We were just asked that question. How I answer it was to say that in ’15 AvKare was call it quote-on-quote 10% customer, so we broke that out in our filings. In ’16, they are not. So you can take from that that they are less than 10% of 245.

Jason Wittes

And then if I think about '17 guidance, how much of that AvKare business do you expect to regain or is imputed into that number?

Michael Senken

Well, in our guidance, we contemplated the transition to our FFS schedule. And so, it has no impact on our guidance.

Pete Petit

We expect to transition all the business over to our FSS…

Michael Senken

It's a bit of an art and a science here. We came into 2016, like I said before. We had a certain plan in terms of transitioning facilities. But there are a lot of players that are involved in that process. We alone can't dictate what goes on there. And so, there is a lot of puts and takes. But that just rolled them into '17. And again, we taken overall view of what we think the federal facilities are going to generate in terms of revenue, and whether it flows through us or flows through AvKare, we still think we can hit the guidance.

Jason Wittes

But I assume AvKare will find another supplier and you'll be competing as AvKare in those accounts?

Michael Senken

Yes.

Jason Wittes

But your assumptions still sounds like you're pretty confident that you can maintain and grow that business, it sounds like from Pete's commentary?

Pete Petit

Just like we've done with all other competitors are showing us…

Michael Senken

And that doesn't concern at all.

William Taylor

We're very short, Joe.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Pete Petit

Well, we don’t see any more in the queue. So, we'll just thank you again. It's been hopefully a very informative call. We apologize for some of the new distractions, but these too will pass just like the others have. And I'll say it again, a full market climbs a wall of worry, and we managed to -- certainly had its walls of worry to keep coming from time-to-time. But that's what's happens with leadership, and we'll move pass this pretty quickly, and again to show you how our optimistic view of '17 is playing out. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.

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