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Ionis Is A Buy On RNA Platform Pipeline

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William Meyers
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Summary

  • Ionis recorded $52 million in Spinraza royalties from Biogen in Q4.
  • Two additional Ionis drugs could launch in 2018.
  • Ionis has 45 potential drugs in its pipeline and a platform to generate more.

We are living in the greatest age of pharmaceutical innovation in history. Investors have already made fortunes from platforms like monoclonal antibodies. Hard-to-treat cancers and many genetic diseases are falling to a variety of new therapy types, including CAR-T and gene therapy. Another approach that should net investors extraordinary returns is RNA-based antisense and RNAi (interference) therapies. Ionis Pharmaceuticals (NASDAQ:IONS) is one of the leaders in this field. It is a strong candidate to add to the portfolios of long-term investors.

Ionis is a commercial-stage company, but most of its long-term value is in its platform and resulting preclinical and clinical-stage pipeline. It has a relatively large market capitalization compared to the small-cap biotechs I frequently write about. I believe that despite that, it is undervalued by the market to about the same degree, while being considerably less risky than the small-cap choices. It is a good place to start investing in pharmaceuticals while learning about the field.

Science and Nomenclature

RNA (ribonucleic acid) is the close cousin of DNA. To build the proteins and other molecules that make a cell alive, the genetic code in the DNA is transcribed using messenger RNA, or mRNA.

Interfering with mRNA (Source: Ionis)

Ionis consistently uses the term antisense technology when discussing its therapies. These therapies bind to RNA and manipulate it.

Another term you will hear from scientists, doctors, and pharma companies is RNAi, short for RNA interference. While, in some cases, RNAi is opposed to antisense, more generally, it could be seen as a subset of the antisense technologies. I think because "RNAi" is easier to remember and write, it is often used to refer to both these related technologies.

Both technologies block the transcription of messenger RNA, which can have therapeutic effects. Both can be highly specific to particular DNA/RNA sequences. Both have

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William Meyers profile picture
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I provided stock and bond research and analysis to a small cap specialist investor, Lloyd Miller, from 2002 until his death in January 2018. For my own account I invest mainly in technology and biotechnology stocks. My technology and investment web site is openicon.com, where readers can view the notes I take to make decisions and to write articles for Seeking Alpha.

Analyst’s Disclosure: I am/we are long IONS, BIIB. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

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Comments (88)

r
The big boys still hand tight to IONS! Very undervalued for platform and now royalty income could provide a dividend within 12-18 months.
w
When Stan retires it goes to $60 --not until then
William Meyers profile picture
Tegsedi received CHMP positive opinion in the EU. Expected, but good for IONS and AKCA.

ir.ionispharma.com/...
S
$IONS has a 30 year history of over exaggeration and under delivering. Tread carefully!
Cranium expert profile picture
The difference is that their current technology works (see: Spinraza). Its all very real now (in terms of patient benefit).
rt94103 profile picture
From your mouth to the street's ears we hope...
r
When stepping back and looking at the size of IONS pipeline the potential is staggering. Now with the ability to fund and pick and choose partners as they deem appropriate IONS is emerging as something special.
B
I still don't see how Inotersen deal is so bad for Ionis shareholders. If they had partnered with an unaffiliated company they might have gotten cash upfront, but they would most likely have to give up a lot more in revenues than Akcea's 50/50 split.

And who is going to be more motivated to make Inotersen a successful product? A company like Akcea that will now have 2 drugs to sell or a big pharma company with dozens of products of which Inotersen would just be one of many?

Lastly this deal lets them leverage all of the work Akcea has done in getting ready to market Volanesorsen. They mentioned on the call that readiness to begin marketing Inotersen, when approved, was a primary concern. Well which would you rather have - a company already in the process of setting up to market a new drug or a company that would have to start from scratch?

For me the jury is still out on this deal. I put no faith in today's knee jerk reaction. The market loves to bash everything this company does and never gives them the benefit of the doubt. Let's see what happens as these drugs get approved in the next few months.
Osmium Research profile picture
Bio,

You could very well be correct and I had the same reaction. However, this would need to be communicated to the financial community in a clear manner. I think the knee jerk is based on perception and in the markets there is a reality to perception and to time. I like the company becuase of the perspective presented in Williams piece and doubled my position today. However, that doesn't mean the current CEO is best suited to his current position. To answer your question, I'd prefer a company that going to be generating new products. so I agree with you. The market's bashing for a reason; it looks like Mickey Mouse is leading the band regardless of the reality of the situation.
rt94103 profile picture
From your mouth to the street's ears.
s
Next they need to find the cure for IDS (Isis/Ionis Derangement Syndrome)
Puche profile picture
I still believe there is a good possibility that IONS will spinoff the remaining shares of AKCA they hold to shareholders in a tax free spin in the next two years. Shareholders would gain some excellent value and IONS would be able to continue to book the royalty revenues. AKCA would no longer be consolidated within the IONS' F/S if this was to happen. It could be done extremely tax efficiently. Of course this is just my two cents. Slow and steady! Good luck to all!
Osmium Research profile picture
But that would require management that actually thought like professional businessmen.
Puche profile picture
LOL......I think you know how I feel about IONS' CEO. IMO the entire AKCA structure and spinoff based on the assets that were initially put into AKCA didn't make a lot of sense unless IONS was planning to spin it off down the road to its shareholders. Personally I think the Street continues to be confused by IONS' moves and as such they tend to simply sell the stock when things like this happens. I guess I just believe IONS pipeline, platform and science is so strong that they will eventually deliver strong returns to long term patient shareholders.

Just my two cents. Slow and steady! Good luck to all!
Osmium Research profile picture
I'm with you. I added today looking out to 2020
WallStPirate profile picture
AKCA up $1.76 in premarket while IONS is down .97 .

Does anyone have a rational explanation??
L
Perhaps there was an expectation that IONS would get good terms by selling non-US rights to Inotersen to third-party drug company...adding to "validation" of the technology. They previously indicated they were in discussions for that purpose and that there was a lot of interest in the drug from other drug majors. Now, who knows? Might still be a great drug (pushing AKCA up) but this is probably not the outcome that was "expected" by analysts and others. I'm still not so sure that carving out AKCA was a benefit to existing IONS shareholders...the news today seems like a lot of "shenanigans" (just re-shuffling the financial deck, so to speak) that would not have been the case had IONS stayed a whole company.
Osmium Research profile picture
Yes, it is the licensing deal they announced for Inoterosen. The street does not have confidence in the business acumen of the CEO; he's a technical guy not a natural businessman. The fact that he executes a license to Akacea and then feels the nees to justify it by indicating that both companies perofrmed good-faith activities by the respective boards just sounds amateurish. There had to be a better way to explain this to the street. You don't tell cut throat professionals that little lord Flaunteroy determined that this was absolutely the best deal IONS could achieve. He's just a fish out of water.
L
Hard to figure the IONS business strategy. Inotersen now going wholly to Akcea. Commercial team from IONS moving to Akcea. Almost seems like a lot of backtracking going on. Not helping the stock price, unfortunately.
Osmium Research profile picture
They don't have a business strategy. They don't have a businessman running the company.
r
Today more promising data released on Spinraza!
r
Drug news is important but the process is IONS strength and market is reawakening to IONS. Under Trump FDA is under pressure to render speedy decisions.
B
Also Ionis & Biogen are already working on developing a follow on drug to Spinraza. http://bit.ly/2Da8c8j
kennethfine profile picture
Can someone speak knowledgeably about how Spinraza is repeatedly dosed in surviving patients and what that costs the patient and insurer? Are there follow-on courses after the initial treatment series? Does treatment, and the cost of that treatment, continue indefinitely?

The disease is tragic and I don't mean to seem too coldly calculating. But one of the more interesting and insightful sentences from the article from an investment point of view: "With an effective therapy, the number of SMA patients should increase over time."

BIIB may be worth a longer look at these levels.
kennethfine profile picture
Some info on this from the recent BIIB vs. CELG article here; SA hasn't yet paywalled it: https://seekingalpha.c...

"It remains to be seen whether [Spinraza] sales figures will decline as dosing frequency in patients undergoing treatment is tapered down and the pool of potential patients shrinks."

Would appreciate more detail on this from someone who knows.
Cranium expert profile picture
ASOs have long half-lives in the CNS so after initial loading patients are only dosed every 4 months. It’s 750k for the first year followed by 350k each year thereafter. The 350k would continue indefinitely although presumably genetics would hit the market at some point.
kennethfine profile picture
Thanks. So, of the two articles listed above, which seem to suggest opposite conclusions ("the number of SMA patients should increase over time" vs. "...dosing frequency in patients undergoing treatment is tapered down and the pool of potential patients shrinks"), you would agree more with the notion that the number of SMA patients should increase over time due to longvity? The second article seems to suggest the patient pool would shrink after treatment, but that seems to be presuming that Spinraza is a cure, versus an ASO that you'll very much want to continue receiving.

Apologies in advance to the latter author if I'm misreading this; he does suggest that it "remains to be seen" whether sales figures will decline, but it also seems he's suggesting a shrinkage of the patient pool, and based on what your saying I don't see how that happens over the very long term. The supply of SMA sufferers will be replenished with births.
rt94103 profile picture
I have high hopes for my IONS Jan 18 2019 65 calls. Should be in the money soon enough...
B
We should be well over 65 now. It's very irritating.
kennethfine profile picture
I've been happy for the opportunity to buy more on the cheap, and I say that having been buying IONS since sub-20. I have a lot of calls as well, and would sure appreciate it if we get to 65. :)
G
I sold Jan 19 70 puts so I agree with your assessment.
William Meyers profile picture
It is always a pleasure to get feedback on Seeking Alpha, especially critical feedback. There are so many well-informed and analytic people in this community! While patisiran v. inotersen market share may have a large impact on the price of ALNY and IONS in 2019, both drugs confirm the potential of RNAi and antisense. It looks to me like IONS has a broader scope of IP than ALNY, which could be important for certain disease targets in the future, but probably won't be the deciding factor in hATTR.
rt94103 profile picture
Per Cranium Expert's post above, his article on IONS pointed out:

"It is worth mentioning that Patisiran requires pre-infusion steroids and IV administration at specific clinical centers, while Inotersen can be self-administered at home. The added expense and hassle to patients may tip the balance in favor of Inotersen. Furthermore, if efficacy ends up be similar between Inotersen and Patisiran, then it's a no-brainer: Ionis's Inotersen will be the clear winner."

https://seekingalpha.c...

Worthwhile article, as is yours, and the discussion thread on Cranium's article is equally worthwhile.
kennethfine profile picture
Also worth pointing out that steroids are not exactly a healthy thing. Doctors use them to when necessary to manage inflammation, but they can have serious side effects. In an apples-to-apples comparison, a treatment that avoids the need for steroids will be seen as preferred. Steroid badness: http://bit.ly/2G2Bzg0
G
I remember the M.D. on this call also had a comment on ANLY saying steroid were low dose and well tolerated. I think the differentiator is convenience rather than steroid use but is another factor to consider.
r
The big boy partners have confirmed that there is little risk! By August and with an approval nd launch 90-110 is possible.
B
Nice to see volumes picking up as the low volumes have allowed the traders to knock this down all the way from 65 to < 50. Hopefully we can at least get this back to a respectable range in the ST. Thinking that the HTT data has really helped with credibility especially in Neuro drugs but perhaps the whole pipeline as well.

Anyone have any idea where the FXI program stands? It's been over a year since the new deal with Bayer and the only thing that's been said on a call was that it is in a "quiet" period. Perhaps some surprises coming?
B
What percentage royalties does ionis get on this?
B
Factor XI? Here is the quote out of the last PR. "Ionis is also eligible to receive tiered royalties in the low to high twenty percent range on gross margins of both drugs combined". (FXI and FXI-L-Rx)
kennethfine profile picture
Good article. You may understate the significance of the Huntington's disease data which was recently released. Huntington's is a devastating disease caused entirely by a mutant gene which results in the production of a toxic, brain-destroying protein. Get rid of that protein somehow, and there is no disease. The onset of Huntington's takes place over ~20 years. The numbers I read is that 30,000 people in America are actively suffering Huntington's while 100,00 are at risk for onset. Ionis looks like it may have an effective therapy that can silence the mutant gene and save people from this slow death, so long as they take it year after year after year after year.

Slide deck: http://bit.ly/2D6Dkpm
Article with very enthusiastic researcher: http://bit.ly/2G38IIi
IONS press release: `http://bit.ly/2D8CB73

IONS is our second largest holding and the investment I am most excited by.
Adam May profile picture
The thing that I want to learn more about in terms of market potential for this huntington's drug is at what point gene carriers would be started on the treatment. Presumably the disease state develops due to years of accumulation and toxicity of the mutant protein, which is why clinical symptoms don't arise until later in life. It seems to make little sense that only those (30,000 people) showing signs of deterioration would receive this treatment. Although this may prevent some progression, at that stage damage has already been done. If this drug could be used essentially as prophylaxis over the course of the adult lifespan of gene carriers (100,000 patients), its market potential may be immensely underestimated.

It makes logical sense to use the drug in this way, but I doubt it would be easy to run trials with meaningful findings and gain an FDA approval for this use.
Osmium Research profile picture
Ken,

Do you have a feel for the regulatory pathway. IONS was less than definitive on the call and I got the sense that they wanted to generate the strongest possible data as opposed to getting the product to market as soon as possible.
Osmium Research profile picture
IONS said that the agency would allow them to treat ahead of clinical symptoms. However, for the next trial, they have a very specific patient population in mind. One that will provide the greatest "dynamic range" of response; this means they will all reside in a defined range of clinical symptoms.

Hi A.
w
IONS still hasn't announced a partner for inotersen. This is perplexing, given the short term time frame till PDUFA>
arthurs1 profile picture
It may be approved before the PDUFA date. A row partner may not be announced till after then.
arthurs1 profile picture
Inotersen approval may be priced in but not significant market share. In fact the opposite is true. Which is far more important specially since it’s wholly owned. The same can’t be said for Patisiran which analysts have crowned the winner all along. I can think of no other reason why Alny mv is double ions, other than continued investment banking fees skewing analyst objectivity. Also lack of true dd. Where was Avexis number 1 banker, Goldman on the call? Has Goldman commented on the Huntington’s results or fourth quarter and full year earnings?Maybe too embarrassed by her “antisense mirage” proclamation.
Puche profile picture
Glad to read that you finally got on board. I’ve been raving about the long term potential for IONS since it was in the mid-20s a few years back. I agree the pipeline is extremely broad with some excellent partnerships. I will admit I would like the CEO to be a little bit more focused on creating commercial value as opposed to the amount of focus on R&D. Don’t get me wrong R&D is the long term lifeline for biopharma companies but public enterprises need to understand shareholders want to see product revenues, profits and free cash flow. Let’s see if they spinoff AKCA to shareholders in the next two years.

Just my two cents. Slow and steady! Good luck to all!
Osmium Research profile picture
Funny you say that Puche. I listened to their webex last week and the CEO did not come across to me as a professional businessman. Turns out he's technical and he clearly felt the need to hear himself speak even though he was on the phone with stone cold professionals from IONS and Roche. Very, very intelligent and talented guy but he's not a natural CEO; intellectual understanding of issues does not a CEO make. On the other hand, he clearly has total grasp of the technical developments.
Puche profile picture
Osmium - you nailed it! I didn’t get to listen to the webex as I was traveling out of the country but your summary really get at my concern. No doubt the CEO is brilliant and a great researcher and scientist. However, as far as being a great public company CEO he has come up tremendously short. If you go through the history of IONS over the years and how they communicated with the Street I think you would find numerous examples of this view.

I am really hoping Spinrazza is the turning point. Before the launch I commented numerous times that I thought Spinrazza could deliver close to a BILLION of revenues for BIIB in the first year. Most people thought that was an absurd view at the time.

I’m now hoping that IONS science and pipeline is so strong that in spite of a weak public CEO they will begin to deliver greater value to their shareholders. A tax free spinoff of the remaining shares of AKCA could be the beginning of this. Let’s see what happens over the next couple of years.

Long and strong IONS and feeling good about the long term thesis.

Thanks again for the response and good luck to you!!!

Slow and steady!!! Good luck to all!!
Osmium Research profile picture
He never said anything incorrect Puche but the term "amateur hour" ran off my lips as he inserted himself where it was toally un-necessary. When you're presenting to money managers you don't behave as if it's a family dinner. On the other hand, if we adopt William's long-term perspective, the preclinical package they developed for Huntingtons screamed of deep knowledge, careful analysis, technical execution and valuable professional experience. If anything, one got the feeling that they err on the slide of stronger clinical data at the expense of program expediency, i.e. speed to market.
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