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Tesla Model 3 Costs More To Charge Than A Gasoline Car

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Anton Wahlman
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Summary

  • Investors who take it for granted that electric cars are cheaper to run, need to think again.
  • A comparison between Tesla Model 3 and the three leading hybrid cars of calendar year 2018 from Toyota, Honda and Hyundai proves otherwise.
  • At the current typical Supercharger price of $0.24 per kWh, a Tesla Model 3 is $0.06 per mile. At the current gasoline price of $2.65, the 50+ MPG hybrids are $0.05 per mile.
  • Then you have to add that the Model 3 has at best half the range and takes at least 10-20x as long to recharge that inferior range.
  • Of course, the Model 3 also costs twice as much, and you have to assign an approximate $1,000 per year to battery depreciation, alone more than driving on gasoline for a year.

Most people know the cost of driving a car that runs on regular gasoline. You take the price of the fuel per gallon, and divide it by the Miles Per Gallon (MPG) number that your car yields. The resulting number is the “cost per mile” in variable fuel cost terms.

So far, in the switch to electric cars, the cost of electricity per mile driven, has not been the subject of much discussion. It’s just somehow assumed that an electric car costs less to drive than a gasoline car. There are at least two reasons for this:

  • Many early adopters don’t care about the cost of the fuel (electricity) because all they want is to try the new technology. Trying new technology is, after all, cool in and of itself - especially tech for sports cars.

  • Many early adopters pay literally nothing for the electricity. Why? Because they charge their cars almost exclusively at one location: Their office, during the day, where the electricity is provided free-of-charge. You just can’t beat 100% free.

However, most of the world does not look like the parking lot at Alphabet’s (GOOG) (GOOGL) headquarters, or many other larger companies in Silicon Valley. Most people in the world don’t live in houses with safe garage space, and most people don’t work at large Silicon Valley companies, where EVs make up a disproportionate share of the employee car park.

For EVs to scale, they will have to be sold to people who live in apartments and park on the street. These are the same people who fuel their cars at the gasoline station today. Let’s see how that has worked for generations.

Someone who is concerned with saving fuel, while simultaneously driving a practical car that fits five adults and a healthy amount of luggage, has several

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Anton Wahlman profile picture
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I am a former sell-side analyst -- UBS 1996-2002, Needham 2002-2006 and ThinkEquity 2006-2008. These days I review automobiles and other technology products, as well as analyze the automotive and technology industries, and coming up with long/short ideas. I also continue to write (less frequently) on macroeconomics and politics.

Analyst’s Disclosure: I am/we are short TSLA. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

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c
Just another step in the evolution of transportation. Yep, electric cars (still ivery much in their infancy) have drawbacks and cost issues too just like the ICE did when it showed up on the scene, steam then diesel locomotives, jet aircraft etc., etc. All had complainers and nay sayers - its too expensive, its not cost effective, we'll never fly! The only reason gas cars got to where they are today is 50+ years of continued refinement and cost reduction. Argue the details of which town today has electric infrastructure and which one doesn't. Gas cars didn't have infrastructure either when it started out. Are you suggesting that battery technology cost and effciency will not happen. Electric motors are way simpler than ICE. Are you suggesting we are at the peak now? I guess because the goverment will stop supporting incentives and subsidies means that electric cars will go away? Is that your point? Keep looking in the rear view mirror - go down to the horse store today and get a new ride.
c
how's those apples with electric cars after a hurricane!!!!!
there is a place for electric cars...current technology etc....within large cities with potential air pollution and NOT near flood prone areas...finally our government is exiting from subsidizing experiments with our tax dollars in a big way starting 2019
c
Just let the short sided people who think we will continue to make saddles forever, make saddles. The electric car revolution is happening whether these idiots think is a bad idea or not. Progress, improvement etc., is never just about the current cost and never has been. They will always find a reason to resist and be short sided. I trust in less than ten years they will all have electric cars too and then be the first to claim they invented the whole idea.
c
when emotions override the laws of nature and what we know that has been scientifically tested and verified you get endless debate of who is more correct...the rose colored glasses and simplified poorly substantiated would likely only work in a man's court-room...but fail in the courtroom of mother nature...folks nature is immensely complicated, well beyond blog being scientifically worthy...to all -- all the very best -- to each drive your desired transport vehicle while you can
g
"most of electric vehicles are charged during the night."

With all due respect, why on earth would anyone WANT to have to leave a car sitting out there charging all night? You really want it left hooked up all night to your utility bill? Why? When for 3 minutes at a gas pump maybe once every ten days you can get a "full charge"? (incidentally just for fun I asked at a Porsche dealership about how long the charging takes and was told for a full charge, depending if 110 or 220 power it is indeed all night). The whole EV procedure is REAL inconvenient. And why do hard when you can do easy?

Moving on, does anyone suppose they need EV acceleration power to get on the interstate on-ramp that they always couldn't already do with internal combustion mills for the last, say, 80 years, give or take?

And, why in the world would anyone want to be limited to less than the 350 to 400 miles per fill-up that is routinely available with standard internal combustion. When I'm taking a long trip I want to go on and GET there and not have to re-fill. And if it takes a re-fill to finish the whole 400 miles I DON'T want it to be overnight. Three minutes max at a pump just off the interstate (that also has bathrooms, drinks, burgers, hot wings, nachos and snacks) is what we've become accustomed to since the 1950s. And insist on incidentally.

And it is a fact that in the context of a total national gov't mandated change-over to EVs for personal transportation devices (commonly called "cars"), the electric grid couldn't stand the strain. Not on that scale. Mass rationing of electric use for home and business would be required. And incidentally, for those who take note of the politics, Tim Kaine, Hillary's VP nominee, is on record in favor of rationing of electrical power to fight "Global Warming". That is also an accurate expression of where the DNC wants to go.

"electric cars are based on completely different principles, have much less moving parts,"

We have a 2000 Camry and a 2012 Accord. One with 200K on it and the other with 95K. There has been ZERO need for all those "moving parts" being replaced. STILL on the original factory water pumps, fuel pumps, radiators, brake master cylinders, engines, coil packs, EFI, alternators, headlights, gas tanks, fuel lines, trannies, wiper motors and a lot of other "stuff". Which makes mincemeat outa the argument that electric personal transportation devices somehow save lots of replacement parts. Modern cars are made pretty good and reliable.

"all electric cars are zero emission cars." That is not an argument. That is a Liberal political statement. Fact is, because of technology, emissions from internal combustion automobiles was cleaned squeaky clean decades ago. And even if it hadn't been, I well remember leaded gas and the days before converters were used, and unless you were operating under Southern California conditions, vehicle exhaust was just not a problem for any of us. No one ever died from it. It didn't even get noticed until after the "cultural revolution" of the Sixties.

Why don't we cut to the chase and get down to what this is really about. Global Warming as Control Issue. And so-called EVs role in it as "regulatory vehicles".

And guess what? In the 2016 election so-called Global Warming finally made the list of 101 reasons why we rejected Clinton and voted for Trump. And another fact is, as long as the GOP holds the "high ground" in this struggle, meaning the WH, the official legal and government bias in favor of EVs is indefinitely on hold.

Oh, just outa curiosity, how many conservative Republicans has anybody ever met who own an EV. A run down on the percentage of EVs who are Lib Dems could serve as a very valuable educational experience in political science...and would probably confirm the obvious. To wit: this IS about politics, not about science or mechanical or electrical engineering...
w
ginsaw, Global warming is real and serious, and you've been sold a story by the deceivers and ideologues who own and run conservative media.

And one the really nice things about EVs is that you never have to go to gas stations: you simply plug in at home and leave each day with a full charge.
Tdot profile picture
Think of it this way. If you simply plug in your EV overnight in your garage and whenever you are not using it, it will give you up to 300 miles of range every day. That is about 80,000 miles a year. Nobody actually does this. The average mileage is about 15,000 miles a year, or around 55 miles a day.

Now you can stomp around and pout and kick thorns about your once in a lifetime cross-country trip whenever you feel compelled to go 900 miles with only one 5-minute stop to refuel. There is another car for that rare duty - it is called a plug-in hybrid. The Ford Fusion Energi for instance goes 610 miles on a tank of gas, the Chevy Volt goes about 420 miles, and both refuel in about 5 minutes.
Krypto profile picture
@Tdot: You just gave people another reason to not buy a Tesla!!
s
First of all, most of the calculations that Author presents in this article are wrong. Moreover, data represented in the way to fully support the Author's statement that an electric car is more expensive to charge than to drive a hybrid car. There are couple notes needed before I proceed: 1. Tesla suggests not to use superchargers on a regular basis. Most of time driver shall charge their Tesla cars at home. 2. Tesla suggests to charge a battery pack up to 80% of the full capacity. Most of Tesla drivers follow these suggestions. Keeping these notes in mind let me do calculations. If you occasionally charge long-range Model 3 (with about 75 kW battery) at superchargers from 0% to 80% you will spend about 40 minutes and will get 60 kW. You will have to pay from $8-$16 depends on the state's rate, that is $0.03-$0.06/mile. When regularly charging the same long-range Model 3 at home for the same 60 kW you will pay from $5 - $11 depending on state's rate (excluding Hawaii), that is $0.02 - $0.04/mile. CONCLUSION: charging Model 3 is 2.5 to 1.25 times cheaper than a hybrid car (assuming prices for gas will not increase). Factors to keep in mind when considering electric vehicle: most of electric vehicles are charged during the night. This helps to reduce power imbalance (significant difference in electricity consumption during day/peak hours and during night). Also, when talking about hybrid cars, you have to assign $500-$1000 per year to battery depreciation. Hybrid cars have exactly the same components as regular cars, thus, expectation life for engine and transmission is the same as for a regular car with internal combustion engine. On the other hand electric cars are based on completely different principles, have much less moving parts, and all electric cars are zero emission cars.
Carson7 profile picture
Just read a detailed article by Goldman that stated by 2024, 30% of the vehicle fleet will be electric.

The author of this article we are reading stated that electric rates averaged $.24 per kWh today in the US. That is nonsensical...
Tdot profile picture
And here's an article that suggests it will be closer to 15% in 2024. evadoption.com/...

Of course opinions vary on the matter, and it is possible that Goldman included plug-in hybrids like the Volt in their estimates for future EV take rates.
Tdot profile picture
Oh and surely Goldman did not say "30% of the vehicle fleet by 2024", as in on the road. That would be something like 90 million EVs on the road. Surely they meant 30% of new car sales, or perhaps the 30% included all "electrified" vehicles, including hybrids.
j
model 3 owner here in Houston,tx. I pay 10.4cnts per KWH. Which equates to about 106mpg at the current cost of gas here in Houston being 2.79cnts.

most of the tesla owners i know (if they didn't get grandfathered in with free charging) charge at their house and only use superchargers on roadtrips...
Hudson Investments profile picture
I have an EV rate at GA power that costs 3 cents per KWH from 11:00 pm until 7:00 am.
Tdot profile picture
Most utility companies offer a significant discount for off-peak EV charging, and homes equipped with solar arrays to support the grid during peak hours, and UPS storage batteries for backup power and brownouts and rapid-charging at home, can get even better rates.
Cogitatio Rationalis profile picture
@jpurdue
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model 3 owner here in Houston,tx. I pay 10.4cnts per KWH. Which equates to about 106mpg at the current cost of gas here in Houston being 2.79cnts.
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Go to fueleconomy.gov site, click "Personalize" and input your rate:
www.fueleconomy.gov/...

You will get $300 per year fuel savings comparing to Toyota Prius at these rates, assuming you drive 15,000 miles year and you can continue to avoid paying road taxes in Texas.

Are you sure this saving on road taxes compensates some $300-500/month more you are going to pay for autoloan & insurance for $20-$40k more expensive car? Prius is around $25k and has 600+ mile range, extendable to 100% again in 5 minutes.
r
Home owners will pay the costs associated with utility infrastructure build out as the EV becomes popular. Anyone living on the electrical grid will subsidize this build out with ever increasing costs of electricity. Rates currently rising 3%-6%, soon to be 6%-12% annually for all of us whether we put gasoline in our car or ride a bicycle. I'm currently using solar panels to cover all of my homes electrical costs. Future rate increases will only accelerate my solar investment payback. I plan to buy gasoline forever, saving more money than most.
Commodity Tracker profile picture
One of the facts TSLA has not released is the % of units sold in the West Coast States.
I suspect because if the percentage is high, market saturation becomes an issue for future sales. Or maybe Elon thinks he can convince CA wakadoodles to buy a new car every few years because it's all part of saving the planet.
Davewmart

-- But that is at 10,000 a week, when Tesla has only allocated Capex for 5,000.

An accurate and in-point observation.

Who are you and what have you done with the real Davewmart?
M
Two interesting articles. The first talks about a renaissance in design as major car makers ramp-up EVs and find great flexibility with no drive shaft or large combustion engine getting in the way:

arstechnica.com/...

The second is that a large German automaker bought several Tesla Model 3's and did a cost break-down on them. In German (link through Google translate). The summary is that they calculated material and delivery cost of around $18,000 plus $10,000 in production costs, or $28,000 total for the $35,000-$78,000 vehicle. They believe that the model 3 can become profitable, in particular as the cost of the battery (which is half of the materials cost) comes down. Apparently they also ripped the battery apart and found that Tesla was able to reduce the amount of Cobalt needed by an enormous amount. In anycase, good read:

translate.google.com/...

-Matt
Davewmart profile picture
Matt:

Fair enough.

But that is at 10,000 a week, when Tesla has only allocated Capex for 5,000.
greener1 profile picture
We, too, have a Prius (Prime) which has both gasoline and electric capabilities. This is a bit off topic but I possess the only available copy of ELECTRICITY AND THE MOTOR CAR published in 1913 in England. A statement in the rare book said that "petrol" prices were increasing and the electric vehicle might be coming back (and stated all the reasons we already know...)!! Contact me, William Seavey, via a search of the web if interested. Elon Musk ought to want it...
Tesla owners like to project savings over 10 years ignoring the strong possibility that Tesla wont exist in the next 2-4 years based on their cash burn rate. What then? Parts...where?
bull

"...ignoring the strong possibility that Tesla wont exist in the next 2-4 years based on their cash burn rate."

I'm not ignoring the possibility that Tesla won't exist in the next 2-4 years, I'm discounting the possibility to near zero.
Tesla's not going anywhere, only getting bigger.
M
@Zwalderon @bullbeartrader

"ignoring the strong possibility that Tesla wont exist in the next 2-4 years based on their cash burn rate."
I'm not ignoring the possibility that Tesla won't exist in the next 2-4 years, I'm discounting the possibility to near zero.
Tesla's not going anywhere, only getting bigger."

That's not a certainty and one strong recession could put a major damper on their plans. Or force a restructuring.
But to address bullbeartrader's point about Tesla not existing or where one would get parts, I would point out that there are several suppliers of both new and refurbished parts for DeLorean's DMC-12, 35 years after the last one was produced.

If Tesla went "bankwupt" tomorrow, that would mean a huge opportunity for someone and the Tesla owners are mostly very well-off.
There would be plenty eager to have desperate customers with deep pockets.
MM

"That's not a certainty and one strong recession could put a major damper on their plans."

You're right, and my bad.
Guess I was just countering one stupid absolute with another.
Or perhaps I simply tire of hearing the same old "bankruptcy" story over and over.
And you're right, anything could happen to put a damper on Tesla's plans.
But I don't think it will be because of Tesla's cash burn rate.
To me, it looks like Tesla's plan with the Model 3 is coming together.

Commodity Tracker profile picture
...and where I live (50% of the time) a Tesla X costs $140k and electricity is ).$0.25 kwhr.
http://bit.ly/2wgvkEb?sortby=~Price&off...
Petroleum (Gas) is around $1.50 litre.
l
One would have to be a fool not to realize that when you put the most expensive cost of a supercharger against the lowest cost of gas you will come up with skewed results.
Now if you take my area, Canada for example the results are very different. With gas now over 1.60 per litre in Vancouver it's US equivalent is just over six bucks a gallon, whereas our electricity rates average about ten cents per Kilowatt. That means a car that gets 30 miles per gallon can go 3oo miles for about sixty dollars, on the other hand a Model 3 with about the same range only costs seven dollars and fifty cents to fully charge from zero.
I figure I will be saving at least twenty-five thousand in fuel expenses alone over ten years, never mind the savings from no oil changes, no muffler repairs, no tune ups, spark plugs, filters, belts or clutches, no transmission to break down, no water pump or high pressure cooling system to fail, no emission standards to fail,,,,,, the savings are endless, which makes the Model 3 truly a bargain.
solucky profile picture
@ labiff

" the savings are endless, which makes the Model 3 truly a bargain."

Sure it is under such conditions and incentives.

Expect from the 1,60 / litre arround 50% are taxes that you dont pay on electricity.

So the difference between an 40 mpg car and similar tax on electricity is much smaller....

If you tax electricity in the same way as gasoline fuel for BEV would be arround 35% expensiver than Diesel cars
U
And why would we tax electricity the same way as gas? Gas is toxic for the environment so it has to be taxed to offset all the harm it does, while electricity (if it comes from clean sources) does not.
And even if we remove that 50% tax his tank would cost $30 instead of $60 against $7 for electricty.
User 42853506

>>And why would we tax electricity the same way as gas?

We shouldn't.
We should, however, tax use of the roads equitably.
G
$2.65 a gallon ? 🤣🤣🤣
Carson7 profile picture
Your kWh costs are way off for at least Florida. Residential rate in FPL’s service territory are 30% below the national average (it’s on their web site). The residential rate is $.11 per kWh, which includes fuel and all clauses, and with maximum taxes, the total all in cost rises to $.132 per kWh. Another reason Florida is tops!
Tdot

>>It is certainly obsolete on fuel consumption and harmful emissions

In the absence of better alternatives, it most certainly is not.

>>One of the best things the government could do to help

Oh my goodness, but you are a clueless soul. Never mind that cashfor clunkers has already been tried once but your of obsolete shows how little you actually know. Not only does my 21 year old truck meet standards that are barely behind the current standard, but taking it off the road means replacing it with something new or newer -- and incurring considerable more emissions, especially greenhouse emissions than would be saved.

That is especially the case with our truck as it doesn't cover many miles, being used primarily to haul things.

Good environmental choices are about a lot more than the simplistic mindset you display. You should know better, too. Environmentalists rightly warm up to trains for efficient transport, even though each individual train consumes considerable fuel and spews considerable pollutants. It is only when you balance that against the work it does that a train starts to look good.
Tdot

>>Nobody wants or needs a car to last for 25 years

I don't know about that. I just bought 21 year old truck, which is getting pretty close.
Average age (damned if I can find the median) of the American auto fleet is pushing 12 years now and getting older each year. That means one helluva lot of cars older than your silly 5 years -- silly because many people finance a car over longer terms than that. Silly also because somebody planning to keep a car for 5 years will still want to be able to sell it. It also means millions of cars 20 years and older.

BTW - My 21 year old truck drives fine and is in no way obsolete for its purpose.
Tdot profile picture
It is certainly obsolete on fuel consumption and harmful emissions, as dinosaurs go, but that seems somehow apropos.

One of the best things the government could do to help with "greenification" of the environment would be to placed forced obsolescence and retirement on vehicles on the road with obsolete and outdated emissions and fuel economy performance, not to mention safety equipment.

In any case, the exception that proves the rule.

And sure, lots of folks with extra money to spend these days are seeking out their favorite dream muscle car era survivor from 40 or 50 years ago when they were growing up, and they are spending $100k and more for fully restored as factory fresh. Those are fine as collector vehicles that might get driven twice a year at a car show or parade.
Retired Securities Attorney profile picture
I can see buying a 21 year old young lady --- but not a truck.
Retired Securities Attorney

>>I can see buying a 21 year old young lady --- but not a truck.

You must not need a truck.
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