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Lincoln National (LNC) Q1 2018 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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Lincoln National Corp. (NYSE:LNC) Q1 2018 Earnings Call May 3, 2018 10:00 AM ET

Executives

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Analysts

Jamminder Singh Bhullar - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Ryan Krueger - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.

Suneet Kamath - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Randy Binner - B. Riley FBR, Inc.

Humphrey Hung Fai Lee - Dowling & Partners Securities LLC

Joshua D. Shanker - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Robert Glasspiegel - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Andrew Kligerman - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

John M. Nadel - UBS

Operator

Good morning and thank you for joining Lincoln Financial Group's first quarter 2018 earnings conference call. At this time all lines are in listen-only mode. Later we will announce the opportunity for questions and instructions will be given at that time.

Now I would like to turn the conference over to the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Chris Giovanni. Please go ahead, sir.

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Thank you, Crystal. Good morning and welcome to Lincoln Financial's first quarter earnings call. Before we begin, I have an important reminder. Any comments made during the call regarding future expectations, trends and market conditions, including comments about sales and deposits, expenses, income from operations, share repurchases, and liquidity and capital resources are forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.

These risks and uncertainties are described in the cautionary statement disclosures in our earnings release issued yesterday and our reports on Forms 8-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC. We appreciate your participation today and invite you to visit Lincoln's website, www.lincolnfinancial.com, where you can

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Tom, this is Randy. Thanks for the question. I think that comparing MoneyGuard to traditional LTC is like comparing apples and oranges, or apples and tangerines, or any other two things you can think of that are very, very different.

So, let's talk about MoneyGuard and the differentiators that we see in that product. The first one I'd point out is just product design. MoneyGuard is a limited benefit product, where a policyholder can get typically up to about six years of benefit. And inside of that benefit, the first two years or so are going to come from their own funds.

The second thing I'd point out about MoneyGuard is the risk profile of a linked benefit product, a product with multiple benefits. In the case of MoneyGuard, that's with an LTC – a limited LTC benefit and mortality benefit. Now, those two benefits work together to create a very stable risk profile, so that product returns are impacted only modestly by increases in either mortality or morbidity incidents. I think that's another key differentiator.

The other thing I'd point out about MoneyGuard is the pricing environment that that product was priced in. So, the pricing for MoneyGuard, especially over the last 5 to 10 years, when we sold the bulk of our book, benefited from having significantly more experienced data at its disposal. It really allowed us to develop a set of assumptions around lapsation, morbidity incidents, those sorts of things that really reflected all of the bad experience that the traditional LTC players are having to reflect in their models today.

The other thing I'd point out is, additionally, the bulk of MoneyGuard was priced in a low rate environment. The environment that's existed over the past decade. And lastly, Tom, I would just point out that our experience on this book, whether it's mortality, morbidity incidence, whether it's lapsation, has been very consistent with the expectations that we had when we priced the product.

So, no. I don't see these products as being similar at all. MoneyGuard is part of an overall financial planning process that allows a policyholder to fill part of a need, multiple needs that they may have. It's a great product, and it's why you have seen sales of this sort of product grow dramatically. It's why you're seeing other entrants come into the space.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

I think I have got a standard response when we third quarter, but no, I'm not worried about this product. As I said, everything is running right in line with our expectations

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

No, Tom. Just a few things I'd point out on annuity spreads. First, I mentioned in my script that there was roughly $10 million or so of negative items that impacted the quarter and they were spread all around the income statement. But some of those were in both investment income and interest credit. So, I think that had a modest impact.

I think the other thing that you see in that business is that credited rate actions aren't perfectly aligned with declines in the portfolio yield, but they do catch up. As a reminder, over 60% of that book of business has room to move credit rates on. So, you may not get perfect alignment quarter-to-quarter, but we have a lot of room on that book.

And the third item I'd point out, and it's a much smaller impact on a particular quarter, but when you think about book trend, the business we sell today goes on at a lower spread. And the business we sell today, $130 million, something like that from a expected spread standpoint. So over time, you would expect to see some trend in that direction. So, I don't see anything other than what you see, which is the spread came down, but there were a number of reasons for that that make the change quite understandable.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

You bet.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Bob Glasspiegel from Janney. Your line is open.

Robert Glasspiegel - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Good morning. And following up on Tom's question. Just how many of your MoneyGuard customers have the long-term care rider? And we're probably too early to see whether there's been any people that have activated that feature, but any further details on that would be appreciated.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Well, Bob, everybody who has a MoneyGuard product has that rider. That's what the product is.

Robert Glasspiegel - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Right. Understood.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

MoneyGuard is a joint benefit product. We've been in the business for about 20 years, so we do have some experience on older business. But I'd say the majority of our – the bulk of our business, as I mentioned, has been sold over the last decade. Experience, as I said, is coming in right in line with our expectations. We really did benefit from having full view of a fair amount of experience in the industry that existed when we were pricing.

So, let me reiterate, Bob. Experience is coming in right as we'd expect. We're very, very comfortable with that product. It is a great product. It's why that product has grown, not just at Lincoln but across the industry. And as I mentioned, it's why you see a number of companies moving this way because it is a tremendous way to fill a need in a overall financial plan with acceptable risks and quality returns.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

And, Bob, just to put a fine point on your question. The utilization of the benefits is exactly – well, not exactly, but it's very consistent with what we priced for. So there's no concern on that specific point at this time.

Robert Glasspiegel - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

I would think very few have utilized it. So, I understand you're comfortable, and it certainly makes sense that you are and it's good that the experience is as you thought.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Once again, Bob, and let me reiterate sort of the way those benefits work together. Obviously, if you pass away, you don't use your LTC benefit. But if you do engage your LTC benefit, you're using up your death benefit. So, once again, these benefits work together, creating this very stable risk profile.

Robert Glasspiegel - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC

Thank you, Randy, Dennis.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

Thanks Bob.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Thanks, Bob.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Kligerman from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Andrew Kligerman - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Hey, good morning. Just question about M&A. You seem very pleased about the Liberty acquisition. And I know you've said you kind of felt like you'd filled out the company, Dennis, with that deal. But does this kind of encourage you maybe to look at some other Group deals, or maybe Retirement Plan Services deals? And if so, what's the pipeline like?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Yeah, Andrew, I think that as – although we haven't done an acquisition for a while, we used to do quite a few acquisitions. And generally, when you do something of this magnitude, the first order of business is to make sure the integration is successful. So with respect to the Group business, I would say 100% of our attention in terms of M&A is on the integration of this business. I'd also say that – and you may have seen our – well, you've seen our reports on this. I mean, we are pretty comprehensively covered now in the market; small employers, large employers, asset management, dental, all of the products. So, I don't see a need to non-organically add to that business at this point.

In terms of RPS, we're very satisfied with the progress in that business. We see opportunities there down the road to expand it. It fits very well with our overall strategy in the context of our wholesale distribution organization and the ability to sell in the small markets, which has a meaningful impact on the overall top line. So RPS is doing very well. And again, we're not, at this point, anxious to do any additional bolt-on acquisitions until we produce what we said we would with respect to the Group business.

Now, in the M&A environment, as we all know and have watched over the last couple of decades, things can change. I do think you'll see a little pick-up in M&A overall, but where that happens, I can't be sure of. But we're happy with where we are right now.

Andrew Kligerman - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Great. And then just with regard to RPS, you had another excellent quarter with net flows at $463 million. Where are you seeing the strength there? Is it in the K-12 area? Is it in 401(k)? Where is the strength coming from? And can it continue?

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Yeah, it can continue. We're dominant in the education – not dominant, we have significant market share in the education market, and in the healthcare market, and so that's where we're seeing a lot of the sales come from. But we are broad based, as you just mentioned. We're in the small case 401(k), and larger case 401(k) as well. But our sales are focused on those areas that I've mentioned, and particularly the small market which covers a lot of industries.

Andrew Kligerman - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

So anything changed? Is that why it's so strong? Or it's just...

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

Yeah, I think the management team that we have in place has narrowed the focus of specific marketplaces, and we've added tremendous talent over the last couple of years that's beginning to pay off. So I think it's a combination of talent and focus. And then I'd quickly add, this is a marketplace where digital is sort of a baseline competitive consideration, and that our digital activities that we've talked about, Click-to-Contribute, Click-to-Chat, and services like that, are very competitive and very strong.

Then also, in the mid to large case market, I think we're the only manufacturer that actually has personalized advice at the work site. That's what we refer to as part of our high touch model.

Our customers pay for that, or otherwise it's included in our pricing. So in the right markets, with the right value proposition, and inside of Lincoln, taking advantage of, particularly, our distribution strength and size.

Andrew Kligerman - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Thanks, Dennis.

Operator

Thank you. And we will take our last question from John Nadel from UBS. Your line is open.

John M. Nadel - UBS

Thanks for sneaking me in before we switch gears yet again. But I just have one question. I'm looking at the Life Insurance segment results, and I guess I'm curious. There was a pretty significant increase in the equity allocated to the segment. You jumped from about $6.8 billion to $7.8 billion. And I'm trying to understand why it's such a significant increase. Maybe we just keyed it wrong, but nothing underlying that segment looks like it's growing at that pace. So is there some other driver of why the equity is moving up so fast?

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, please standby. Your conference call will resume momentarily.

[Technical Difficulty] (01:01:18-01:03:05)

Operator

And speakers, please proceed.

Dennis R. Glass - Lincoln National Corp.

We apologize. We had an issue here with power. Randy, please go. John, are you still on the line?

John M. Nadel - UBS

I'm still here. I'm just not sure if you can hear me anymore.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

I can hear you, John...

John M. Nadel - UBS

Okay.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

...and I'll answer your question --

John M. Nadel - UBS

I thought it was -I thought I just got far too detailed, and you just decided enough is enough.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

I would say that your question was so compelling that you knocked the power out in Radnor, Pennsylvania.

John M. Nadel - UBS

I have that effect all over the world, Randy.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

If you go back to your-end, we talked about the fact that we had $1.3 billion impact from tax reform, and that roughly $1 billion of it was associated with the Life Insurance business. So, when we did our year-end financials, we wanted to make sure everything was comparable to previous quarters. So we put all of that impact in terms of what we put in the Other Operations segment. And then immediately after so on January 1, we re-classed all of the numbers out to the appropriate segment. So you would have seen the Life Insurance equity in the first quarter go up by that billion dollars associated with tax reform.

John M. Nadel - UBS

Got it. Thank you.

Randal J. Freitag - Lincoln National Corp.

You bet.

Operator

Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference back over to Chris Giovanni for any closing remarks.

Christopher A. Giovanni - Lincoln National Corp.

Thank you all for joining us this morning. As always, if you have any follow-up questions, we will be around. You can reach us at 800-237-2920, or via e-mail at investorrelations@lfg.com. Thank you all and have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day, and speakers please standby.

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