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Bitcoin: I'm Surprised That You're Surprised

Nov. 21, 2018 11:54 AM ETBitcoin USD (BTC-USD)COIN-OLD, GBTC99 Comments
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Hans Hauge
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Summary

  • Willy Woo has predicted a market bottom in Q2 2019.
  • The Bitcoin Value Indicator predicted a mean Bitcoin Market Cap of $66B on the last day of October.
  • My position is unchanged: Short-term bear and long-term bull.
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Back in June, I wrote an article about the relationship between Unique Addresses and the Bitcoin (BTC-USD)(COIN)(OTCQX:GBTC) market cap. I said:

...the predicted market cap of Bitcoin on June 1 of 2018 is $21,993,572,103.22, compared with the actual Bitcoin market cap of $131,769,788,441, six and a half times higher than expected.

Source: Seeking Alpha - June 1, 2018

Then, on July 1, 2018, I published this table of the Bitcoin Value Indicator input signals:

Indicator Name Unique Addresses Hash Power Total Transactions
Predicted Market Cap $20,042,854,205 $94,484,985,458 $57,573,388,992
Actual / Predicted 5.78 1.23 2.01
Metric Signal Overbought Overbought Overbought

Source: Bitcoin Value Indicator, July 2018

As recent as the 1st of November, I said that the market was still overbought.

While the Bitcoin price may still have room on the downside, it's clear to me that this opportunity won't last long.

Source: Bitcoin Value Indicator, latest

What did I mean about the "opportunity not lasting" long? Well, many crypto investors are apparently completely shocked by the price action, and there have been reports of people simply throwing in the towel. I'm not going to post these comments here, but if you head over to Twitter or Reddit, you'll see what I'm talking about.

There will be some people who will simply walk away from the market, only to discover that it's still alive and well next year.

The market is driven by both psychology and fundamentals. The best time to buy is when the fundamentals look great but investor sentiment is the worst. Why? Because that's where the largest opportunity exists, when the perception of value and the generation of value are the greatest distance apart.

Bitcoin is no different in that regard, and that's why I've been talking about the underlying value this whole

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Principal Quant at Ikigai.

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Comments (99)

HaroldRamis profile picture
www.theregister.co.uk/...

yes but do they have the beards to match?
HaroldRamis profile picture
Glad I took Hans advice and took the profits 4300

Saddest dead cat bounce ever
HaroldRamis profile picture
Ohio accepts bitcon for taxes!!!!


Hans was right all along!!!! omg

are we back to 20k yet ? Tomorrow maybe ???
HaroldRamis profile picture
Nailed the pop. Timing....is everything
Hans Hauge profile picture
Hey @captainjack2
You said "Why is it taking so long for Bitcoin to scale? Or perhaps how will it scale? Just the other day I wanted to send $25.00. They wanted a 4.00 fee!"

Do you mind telling me where you were sending from? This fee is way too large. The average fee as of yesterday was $0.58 according to Bitinfocharts.

bitinfocharts.com/...

In regards to scaling, I would look to the lightning network. The reason it takes time, is that it's difficult to scale something without a middleman. But, it is happening. Good things take time.

Have you read my article on the lightning network?

seekingalpha.com/...

Recently the capacity of the LN spiked up. We're on our way for sure.

p2sh.info/...

The real question is how long will it take for LN to get adopted. This bear market is a great time for it to grow quietly in preparation for the next wave.

"2. IMF pushing all central banks to develop their own crypto. Hate Lagarde. Unelected criminal trying to tell the world what to do re money. So what do u think of this? What if anything would a digital currency replacing the dollar do to the current crypto space?"

Eventually we'll have digital money. But, I don't think a digital dollar is a substitute for Bitcoin. This may sound strange, but I think in the future we'll just get used to having many currencies to pick from. I think payments will automatically draw from whichever asset we have selected and it will all happen behind the scenes.

Have you seen Mr. Robot?
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I sent my son some bitcoin from Binance. He needed 25$ so I had to increase the amount to a bit less than 29 for him to get that. And that’s not all. I try to buy Binance coin BNB and I can’t buy less than 10 bnb at a time. WTF? I don’t get what’s going on with them no response to my questions. And when u transfer holdings out, the fees they take r insane. I just don’t understand as have not encountered any one else with this problem.
Hans Hauge profile picture
Exchanges have minimums that are annoying. Amounts under a certain limit just get "stuck" in the exchange. It sounds like you're talking about exchange fees rather than fees from the Bitcoin network. Are you running an actual Bitcoin wallet, like this?

bitcoin.org/...
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@captainjack2 - outrageous fees? Take a number and get in line. I had a stock go off the market and inquired about getting the certificate for my own records and they wanted $200 for the process. They offered $0.05 for the certificate to purchase it from me. If you look at the fee structure of brokerages in general, btc or stock/futures, etc, they have some surprises in there as you have been made aware.
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Hans, a few questions if u have time.
1. Why is it taking so long for Bitcoin to scale? Or perhaps how will it scale? Just the other day I wanted to send $25.00. They wanted a 4.00 fee!
2. IMF pushing all central banks to develop their own crypto. Hate Lagarde. Unelected criminal trying to tell the world what to do re money. So what do u think of this? What if anything would a digital currency replacing the dollar do to the current crypto space?
What place will bitcoin occupy? ( maybe in the end, it just becomes a store of value due to quantity limitations).
w
The other prediction from a postor based on Elliott waves said it is going to 3000. Still looks on the mark.
Long Tail Of Finance profile picture
Summary Comments:

Willy Woo has predicted a market bottom in Q2 2019.
>>Who cares? Predictions are a dime a dozen, especially when there's no long term history to support it. BTC is only 10 years old afterall.

The Bitcoin Value Indicator predicted a mean Bitcoin Market Cap of $66B on the last day of October.
>>See above comment.

My position is unchanged: Short-term bear and long-term bull.
>>At the end of the day, you, and everyone else in cryptoland has no basis in fact or history to point to why there should be any long term to look forward to, in the way we understand things now and almost everything is up for grabs. There simply isn't enough history or use case adoption yet.

I have no business or philosophical connection to cypto. May the best vision of the future for crypto ultimately win, however long that takes. In meantime, if and when the trend changes to upward and rising, then I'll start to care a bit more.
HaroldRamis profile picture
Hans off.

He's not even the least bit embarrassed for having the worst timed article of 2018
thebucketshop profile picture
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astro24102 profile picture
I’m going to load up the truck with Gold under $975 and Bitcoin under $2950.
Gold is heading much higher. Bitcoin is heading for zero. Bitcoin is already under $4,000. Now $4,000 is likely massive upside resistance.
Pelagus profile picture
You're absolutely right - I believe we're going to see the 2013-2017 cycle all over again.
Hans Hauge profile picture
@Pelagus exactly, and when it happens people will be surprised.
HaroldRamis profile picture
This is how its done

GMDA

my only long tout

up 50% in a few weeks

do a search here and you'll see I was the ONLY one
w
@HaroldRamis - you meant mdma.
HaroldRamis profile picture
wrong
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I am not a hater and actual am rooting for success here. Unfortunately, I never have seen any fundamentals that support the “generation of value” claims. It appears to all be emotion and wanderlust driving any perceived value.
Hans Hauge profile picture
Value is a matter of perception, but the price is driven by supply and demand. Since the supply is fixed, more demand will push the price up. So, that's why I track the demand by using proxies for user growth. Those proxies are the number of daily transactions, the number of unique addresses in use and such.

This article was just published today, it explains why these techniques have merit.

www.fxstreet.com/...

However, if you're asking "why do people think it has any use at all," then that's a totally different question. I think it's a cool open source software that lets anyone program money. Other people are interested in it for other reasons, and that's fine. I'm not going to judge what you think is important or valuable, I'm just here to track what people are actually doing. And, what they're doing is using Bitcoin more and more. This leads to the value generation and the price increase in log scale over nine years.
H
Bad stocks (e.g. penny stocks) rise, fall and never come back. Same for most ICO tokens.
Then there are good stocks, or indices like the S&P 500, that rise and fall in cycles, but surge in the long run. Now compare both to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is definitely developing like good stocks or indices. It had several cycles and is gradually rising, even if there are deep valleys from time to time. The reason is simple: It has intrinsic value, namely its technology plus the confidence that many people have in it. So it is quite unlikely that it will go to zero. As it existed for 10 years already, there is a very good chance that it will still exist in 10 years time. Unfortunately many people who have lost money in the current downturn easily overlook that. They blame Bitcoin for it instead of blaming their own bad investment skills.
HaroldRamis profile picture
this guy just keeps pumping out clickbait articles and leaving all his lousy predictions to rot.

sad
Hans Hauge profile picture
The Bitcoin Value Indicator has been correct since I started publishing it, so what you're saying here is simply incorrect. I recommend that readers mute this guy like I have done, unless you enjoy low effort, low quality comments; which seem to be all he can produce.
jammastermike profile picture
yeah, it's funny how he references clickbait so frequently, and yet that's exactly all he ever provides...
black.belt profile picture
Here's my BTC value indicator. It'll go up until it doesn't, then it will go down until it hits intrinsic value, $0.00.
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The value of an item is what it will bring in the marketplace. Crypto currencies, (at least the top ones), do trade for things in the marketplace, and so have value.

You may consider them worthless and delusional. Others may feel the same about fiat currencies. If they can be exchanged in the marketplace they have value.
"The value of an item is what it will bring in the marketplace. Crypto currencies, (at least the top ones), do trade for things in the marketplace, and so have value.
You may consider them worthless and delusional. Others may feel the same about fiat currencies. If they can be exchanged in the marketplace they have value."

While Bitcoin has demand from some now, that demand is likely to disappear sooner rather than later. Bitcoin is just data. What is the value of old obsolete data?

www.cnbc.com/...
Ninja Trader profile picture
622,

Wow, an Alan Greenspan opinion. Thanks for the laugh.
Those holding Bitcoin when it gets to zero won't be laughing.
black.belt profile picture
You actually own something when you roll dice, an actual option with an actual payout in something real. a crypto is nothing, ether. Worthless and delusional.
own_account profile picture
People bet on the outcome of rolling dice so why not crypto? As long as they're having fun and don't lose more than they can afford to lose it's all fun and games. Of course, some gamblers do have a problem with it...
@own_account Some would say the same about the stock market because they do not understand how the stock market can be anything other then gambling.
Great article. HODLING since 2015 and still hodling strong in 2018. But one has to do a few trades too when the opportunity presents itself.

Long both Ethereum and Bitcoin.
HaroldRamis profile picture
me too.
man114 profile picture
@Cedrick

I’m listing track but wasn’t there a drop than lull back in like 2015 for like a year before it rebounded? I hardly ever check the price.
zintips profile picture
Buffet: "Fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.”
HODL . . . and wait till Jan 2019 to buy more
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