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Be Thankful If You Stayed Out Of The Danger Zone (And Avoided Companies Like Snap) This Year

Dec. 05, 2018 10:18 AM ETAIEQ, AMTD-OLD, AMZN, CRM, DOMO, EB, HSOAX, LVOAX, NFLX, SNAP, SPOT, TSLA8 Comments
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Summary

  • Investors tend to focus their gratitude on the winners they pick, but research shows that it might be more profitable to focus on avoiding losers.
  • To that end, we’re summarizing some Danger Zone picks that steered readers away from stocks whose true colors have been revealed in the recent market volatility.
  • Investors that failed to heed our warning the first time are in the Danger Zone this week.
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It's the time of year to reflect on the things for which we're thankful. Investors tend to focus their gratitude on the winners they pick, but research shows that it might be more profitable to focus on avoiding losers. To that end, we're summarizing some Danger Zone picks that steered readers away from stocks whose true colors have been revealed in the recent market volatility. Investors that failed to heed our warning the first time are in the Danger Zone this week.

Don't Get Gobbled Up by the Micro-Bubble

On August 6, we put the "Micro-Bubble" in the Danger Zone for the first time. We highlighted five stocks - Amazon (AMZN), Netflix (NFLX), Salesforce (CRM), Tesla (TSLA), and Spotify (SPOT) - with negative free cash flow and unrealistically high expectations for market dominance that was embedded in their stock prices.

Per Figure 1, shareholders in those companies have lost a combined $220 billion (18%) since we published that article while the S&P 500 is down just 8%.

Figure 1: Shareholder Losses for Micro-Bubble Stocks

Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings

Tesla is the only company on the list whose market cap has not declined, but the stock is still down 8% due to dilution from employee stock compensation.

The dismal performance of these stocks stands out even more when one considers that the news for these companies has been mostly positive over the past few months:

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Comments (8)

David Trainer profile picture
The reverse DCF model is the driver of the GAP, or Growth Appreciation Period, rating, which is a key criterion for all of our ratings in stocks, ETFs and mutual funds.
www.newconstructs.com/...
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David,

I had printed MO (Altria Group, Inc ) I do not see any Reversed DCF Review or DCF model page in your rating report.
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David, I have a question for you. Will you try other valuation metric beside Price / EBV?
David Trainer profile picture
@cledrag: Absolutely, great question.
We use a variety of valuation metrics with the most important being our reverse Discounted Cash Flow model, which measures the level for future cash flow required to justify stock prices. Price/EBV, like any ratio, is a short cut for DCF. We like P/EBV because it clearly compares the value of the existing cash flows of the business to the market's expected cash flows as reflected in the stock price. P/EBV does not capture further details on the implied margins, rev growth, taxes, capital efficiency or duration of cash flow growth. Nevertheless, it is a good starting point for seeing how market expectations for cash flows compare to past cash flows.
Details on reverse discounted cash flow (DCF): www.newconstructs.com/...
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David, Mycroft Friedrich has a list of valuation metric on the seeking alpha. maybe you can review some of it and adopt them on your new constructs.
Article by Mycroft Friedrich: Apple Vs The S&P 500: which is the better investment
Mon, Dec 3, 03:23 PM. AAPL. Includes: SPY
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@Devis Mazza - The author does not state that one should stay out of the market, only that one should avoid these type of companies with red flags such as:

Negative profits and free cash flow
Expenses growing faster than revenue
Dual-class share structures that keep investors from having a say in corporate governance
Valuations that implied unrealistic levels of growth and profitability

However, I think we all wish we would have bought Amazon and Netflix way back in the day when we first started loving their services. :(
Calculus profile picture
So losing $100 plus billion US Dollars in Facebook is comparable too losing...what again?

100 Exxon/Mobils in one day?

Yes, indeed..."avoid the losers/always buy the winners!!..
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The sad performance of these titles is caused by the fact that they decided to make the bags corollare, nothing has anything to do with your technical forecasts ..... stay out also means not making money, easy to say you did well when they come down , and when you were out how much money you did not do?
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