Decline In Q1 Corporate Profits Strong Support For Slowdown, But Not Near-Term Recession

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  • Two historically excellent indicators, the yield curve and housing sales, are currently giving contradictory signals.
  • Looking that the producer-side long leading indicator, corporate profits, can help sort out the true signal.
  • In Thursday’s Q1 GDP report, corporate profits did decline, but not nearly by enough to signal any imminent recession.


In my last article I noted that, depending on whether you look at the yield curve or new home sales, both of which have historically been very good long leading indicators, the economy is either careening towards recession or else no cause for worry.

Both measures, however, have had false positives and negatives. In the case of the yield curve, it has falsely signaled recession in both 1966 and 1998. But contrarily, new home sales declined less in 1999 than they did in 2018, and rebounded by about the same percentage in 2000 as they have this year so far, and yet a recession followed within 12 months. In short, one or the other of these two generally very reliable indicators is giving a false signal.

Corporate profits can help sift out the better forecast

I pointed to corporate profits deflated by the producer price index as another long leading indicator that can help us determine which forecast is the better one. They barely dipped in 1966 and the other times when housing sales gave us false negatives. They also declined sharply when the dot-com bubble popped, telling us that coupled with even the shallow decline in housing in 1999 enough damage had been done to bring on a recession.

In general, I noted that corporate profits have had about double the weighting of housing sales metrics in their forecasting power for a recession, based on the below table of slowdowns vs. recessions:

Finally, I noted that today the BEA would release corporate profits for Q1.

The report on Q1 corporate profits

As reported this morning, corporate profits in Q1 declined -3.5%. But once we deflate by producer prices (which also declined during Q1), the decline is not that significant, off -3.1% from peak in Q3 2018:

As an aside, the result would be similar - off -4.0% from peak - if I deflated by unit labor costs rather than producer prices. As a bonus, here’s what the YoY% change in deflated corporate profits looks like over the past 70 years compared with Prof. Edward Leamer’s favorite housing metric, private residential investment as a share of GDP, also YoY:

Only once - in 1954 - has a recession started without both being negative YoY first. On the other hand, there are several false positives: 1966, 1984, and 2011.

Here’s a close-up of the past eight years:

Close, but no cigar.

As to Q2, at the moment, bottoms-up analysts’ estimates for earnings for the S&P 500 are positive:

Obviously, at turning points, analysts have usually been wrong! We’ll get our first clues from corporate income taxes paid as June progresses.


But for now, the big result is that a housing decline of -11.7% coupled with a decline in deflated corporate profits of -3.1% is nowhere near enough to signal an imminent recession vs. simply a slowdown.

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New Deal democrat As a professional who started an individual investor for almost 30 yeas ago, I quickly focused on economic cycles and the order in which they typically proceed. I have been writing about the economy for nearly 15 of those years, developing several alternate systems that include mid-cycle, long leading, short leading, coincident, lagging and long lagging indicators. I also focus particularly on their effects on average working and middle class Americans.

Disclosure: I/we have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

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