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Third Quarter For Amazon And The Longer Run

Oct. 25, 2019 1:00 PM ETAmazon.com, Inc. (AMZN)MSFT27 Comments
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John M. Mason
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Summary

  • Amazon.com did not have such a good third quarter because of spending to speed up delivery of retail sales, as it attempted to focus on longer-term customer satisfaction.
  • Jeff Bezos, if anything, is not an executive that thinks just about the short-run, and this move on delivery times to customers has long-run implications all over it.
  • Mr. Bezos has a history of delivering over the longer-run and one needs to give him the benefit-of-the-doubt in this case and support his decision.

It is ironic that I am writing this report on the third quarter earnings of Amazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) the day after I posted an article on "Maximizing Shareholder Value - The Infinite Game."

Amazon's third quarter earnings dropped from a year ago.

The drop was substantial: 26 percent.

The reason for the decline: Amazon's heavy investment to reduce shipping times for retail customers.

But, Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon, was not thinking about the short term, as he was quoted in the Financial Times:

It's the right long-term decision for customers…"

The decision was part of a "ramping up to make our 25th holiday season the best ever for Prime customers."

And, customers have already begun to respond. Karen Weise reports in the New York Times:

In the latest quarter, unit sales were up 22 percent, more than twice the growth rate at the start of the year, before the one-day shipping initiative began."

Now, we're back to the old Amazon…." - Jefferies analyst Brent Thill.

Mr. Thill goes on:

Investors were beginning to get used to the new Amazon of getting better bottom-line upside…"

The Old Amazon, "is bottom-line downside but big investments. For short-term investors, it's a bummer, but, for long-term investors, they realize that with Amazon, these investments usually pay off."

Dan Gallager, in the Wall Street Journal, agrees. "Amazon admittedly has a long history of successfully investing for growth."

But for the short-term investors… the price of Amazon shares fell by 7 percent in after-hours trading.

The behavior of Jeff Bezos and Amazon.com represents a clear example of what focusing on a longer-term horizon can do for companies.

As stated above, focusing upon the longer-run has been a trait of Mr. Bezos and the "Old" Amazon since its beginning.

No one has been more blatant

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John M. Mason writes on current monetary and financial events. He is the founder and CEO of New Finance, LLC. Dr. Mason has been President and CEO of two publicly traded financial institutions and the executive vice president and CFO of a third. He has also served as a special assistant to the secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development in Washington, D. C. and as a senior economist within the Federal Reserve System. He formerly was on the faculty of the Finance Department, Wharton School, the University of Pennsylvania and was a professor at Penn State University and taught in both the Management Division and the Engineering Division. Dr. Mason has served on the boards of venture capital funds and other private equity funds. He has worked with young entrepreneurs, especially within the urban environment, starting or running companies primarily connected with Information Technology.

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Comments (27)

AutoTech profile picture
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More heat from "inside the beltway" (DC)

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Long and strong Amzn
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Long Amzn. I never care about quarterly results
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eMarketer forecasts that in the next several years GOOGL'S share of ad revenue will fall and AMZN"S will rise. AMZN is taking ad revenue share from GOOGL.
Oliver Sudden Jr profile picture
Some "little" things about amazon.com that I haven't seen talked about are that the experience using the website is not nearly as good as it used to be. Number 1 is that when you search for something you get the sponsored products ( advertisements ) first which is a pita and then the same product with a lower price may be below in the non sponsored list. Second they have constantly made changes to the website to try and improve it but imo it is worse. If you go to My Account now there are these boxes designed to make it easier to find something but alas it is more difficult. Finally, there are programming errors. For example I can't turn on 1-click on either my PC or iPhone, somehow it went off. Talking to customer service is a waste of time if you are a technical person and have looked at their help pages. I spent my life programming computers and I know it is difficult to find people with the right skill set that are willing to program and it shows. Also, constant changing takes a toll on the users of software. These "little" things have a negative effect on sales over time.
Gary J is Rich on AMZN profile picture
@Oliver Sudden Jr

Sales, Prime members keep increasing. Best e-commerce web site in the business.
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Amazon is “dead money”!! Sell!!
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Please inform us what company you think is a better positioned company than Amazon?
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AMZN may be well positioned, but it is priced for perfection.

And now that they have all of the planes and trucks, any increase in oil prices will kill them.

Cannot compete in certain areas such as with the dollar stores.

Lost the Pentagon contract tonight.

All is not roses with AMZN
Gary J is Rich on AMZN profile picture
@justaguy11

"AMZN may be well positioned"

And that is what matters.
gametv profile picture
You make a throw-away statement that is incorrect. You say that noone worries about amazon's position in cloud computing.

This is why amazon stock will fall in the coming year. AWS growth rates are set to plummet. What is happening is that Google is getting much more aggressive in this area. They want to grow revenues and are willing to be aggressive on pricing. They are on a hiring spree in this area under a new CEO of cloud. Which means that AWS will need to follow in order to try to maintain market share. At the same time, Microsoft is not going to be willing to give up any market share. Three juggernauts. And which of these has the deepest pockets? Google and Microsoft generate far more profit from other areas than Amazon. They have the ability to protect and grow share by going after pricing. That is why Amazon is a horrible investment in the coming year. Amazon must invest heavily to maintain any semblance of growth in ecommerce and at the same time, it is facing an onslaught of competition in AWS, which makes up 75% of its profits. Longer term, Amazon will be fine, but short term, the company is headed down.

The bounce back up reminds me of what happened on Netflix's first bad earnings call. The bulls thought they could buy the dip. Really bad idea guys. Amazon's stock price will taper off, but will require another couple quarters of declining growth in AWS for the bulls to finally get the message.
Gary J is Rich on AMZN profile picture
@gametv

Sorry, cloud services is not Google's largest driver of revenue growth.
Furthermore cloud services is not even their SECOND largest driver of revenue growth.
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At some point in the law of large numbers you are losing the point. AWS prob gained more business this quarter than MSFT, despite a lower growth rate. You also fail to account for any of the other major growth drivers for AMZN like advertising, healthcare etc, which MSFT does not have.
Gary J is Rich on AMZN profile picture
@tralfamadorian

Exactly. It is still AWS and all others.
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Rochag
25 Oct. 2019
I can’t agree more with your article, I worked for AWS 7 years ago and Jeff’s vision and his leadership team has always been customer centric and for the long haul. Back at those days AWS stock was $254 the only thing I can tell you is that with Amazon patience pays back.
gelstretch profile picture
Yes.... Amazon the Mighty - for the long haul !
Marty Chilberg profile picture
Appreciate the article John. A couple footnotes:
Your statement:
- AWS makes up 70% of AMZN profit
- Sales in this unit were up 35% YY

What goes unmentioned is where I would have concerns:
- AWS costs increased far faster. That led to an increase in AWS profits of only 8.9% vs the 35% revenue growth.
- Guidance indicated they were planning to continue to invest more in sales and marketing to pursue the enterprise.
- Amazon referred to their 10Q for unearned and contracted remaining purch obligations. In doing so you can see that unearned revenue was $1.6b at Sep QE and that under contract was $27.4b. Those look good until you compare to Microsoft which has $34b of unearned on BS and $86b under contract (50% of which to be recognized next 12 months).
- The previous point is the most worrisome. They are trying to gain share in the enterprise by price cutting in exchange for long term commitments. That is likely to put pressure on their AWS profits in the future.

I'm certainly not betting against Amazon but this print may be followed by future reduced profits in AWS which delivers the lions share of their profit.
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- AWS costs increased far faster. That led to an increase in AWS profits of only 8.9% vs the 35% revenue growth [Classic Amazon, investing excess margins in growth - margins from all segments decreased from 2018 (record highs btw) as Jeff and co. plowed that money into the future]

- Guidance indicated they were planning to continue to invest more in sales and marketing to pursue the enterprise [Yep, see above]

- Amazon referred to their 10Q for unearned and contracted remaining purch obligations. In doing so you can see that unearned revenue was $1.6b at Sep QE and that under contract was $27.4b. Those look good until you compare to Microsoft which has $34b of unearned on BS and $86b under contract [Not a true comp. MSFTs O365 business is a cash machine with no true competition. We don't know exactly the numbers as MSFT doesn't disclose Azure but we can be certain the lions share of MSFTs unearned revenues lay outside the Azure space]

- The previous point is the most worrisome. They are trying to gain share in the enterprise by price cutting in exchange for long term commitments. That is likely to put pressure on their AWS profits in the future [They've been cutting prices aggressively for years, Routinely speaking to their strategy of scaling and passing on cost savings to customers. Nothing new here. The more surprising facet in my estimation is how AWS has dominated MSFT in the Enterprise Cloud space despite MSFTs natural/historical B2B position]
Gary J is Rich on AMZN profile picture
@Marty Chilberg

Last I checked +35% on a already HUGE AWS revenue base is an awesome achievement. Not to mention after 13 years in existence.
Marty Chilberg profile picture
Excellent point on Azure vs total. Azure was about 1/3 of their comm cloud so it is logical to assume that it is no more than 1/3 of the unearned
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