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The Bears Are Fleeing For Cover

Summary

  • The bulls capitulated on March 23.
  • Now, the bears are capitulating.
  • The bottom deniers see the DJIA going back down below 18,200.
  • The "double-bottom" crowd sees a re-test of the March 23 low.
  • While they are arguing with each other, the market has made a V-shaped recovery.
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While most individual investors are focused on yesterday, today and tomorrow, the market is far ahead of them, looking at least three to six months down the road. How else do you explain a 35% rally in the Nasdaq and a 33% rally in the S&P 500 while the vast majority of the U.S. economy remains shut?

On March 18 of this year, I surprised a lot of readers when I wrote that "we are not out of the woods yet, but get ready." Get ready for what? At the time the S&P 500 was trading at 2,280 and it was down some 33% from its Feb. 19 peak of 3,393. The economy was almost completely shut down, and it appeared that there was not any light whatsoever at the end of the proverbial tunnel.

I wrote that this was not another 2008-2009. That sell-off lasted for 16 months as the great recession set in. Earnings for the S&P dropped for almost 18 months and led the market lower. I also said that this current hit to earnings would be for several quarters, and the hit to our economy also would be temporary. After all, that's basically what happened in China. Why should it be any different for the United States?

Judging by the comments that came in on the article, I was in the vast minority at that time. Most were not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel that I was seeing. But I felt very strongly that the market would begin to rebound soon, well in advance of the actual recovery in the economy. That's the way the market works. It looks many months into the future.

That evening after that article was published, I looked at about 1,000 stock charts and I was shocked by

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Comments (838)

Tom OC profile picture
@USNVP-48 -Appreciate your Civility in this messed up world we are in. Good to have Rays of Sunlight in the cloudy situation we have.
It does feel like we are due for a 'reset' depending on how deep and long this recession goes & how strong the recovery is. All seems keyed off the Pandemic.

I believe what we need is better info on the Pandemic that we have not been getting. The new normal seems to be identifying 'spreaders' & get them in quarantine, also dealing with the seriously ill. Then when someone is 'recovered' and no longer a 'spreader' & can come out of quarantine. Another category should be on Relapses. Zero would be great. Seems like we are going to enter this phase & it will take it's toll on people. This can't bode well for the Economy.

So better info is Daily New Infections, Currently Infected & Recovered Relapse & Relapse Recovered. Death count too. Come off Infected if Recovered. Then if Infected is it Asymptomatic or Covid (ie ill). I'd like to see daily recovered.
Till we get stats that show we are in the back half of the Pandemic & there is Economic, Job & Profit growth, difficult to see the market moving higher without Fed help.
ps -the continuing claims will also be a key Economic metric. Need Jobs returning -I'm Off the soap box now.
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@Tom OC I detect no evidence of a soap box, thank you for your kindness, in complete agreement with your points - accurate and in depth data will benefit us all. The broader the scope of this data the better I like it. We both agree that it must be accurate. Be safe
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For a little levity - Bulls, Bears, and Pigs; I'd trade the entire zoo for a loyal Labrador market.
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hmmm, Patron48 NUQ
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Absolutely. So much has changed over the past 50 years. Mountain View was a sleepy little town back then. Backbeat.
The bear is restrained under a forced quarantine and he's really angry. When broken free from restraints there will be hell to pay.
Michael Clark profile picture
@Casper26
I've been saying this since 2001. Then I stopped saying it in 2012.

Still hear it alot thought.
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No, there won't. Because cases are going to rebound, consumers are going to remain scared, local hospitals and facilities will become overwhelmed, at different times, and hundreds of thousands if not millions will die, depending entirely on unpredictable factors like vaccine development.

"The U.S. won the war against coronavirus the same way we won the war against Vietnam - it got too expensive, so we pretended it was over."
Michael Clark profile picture
@TheInsomniac
We gave up on Vietnam because the cost was too great at home, turning on the Civil War machine, and having open warfare between the Culture and the Counter-Culture.

The only way we could have won the Vietnamese War would have been to colonize Vietnam, to send Americans in to live there and take over the country brick by brick, field by field, town by town. We did not want to be the type of colonialists the Europeans were just un-becoming.
Michael Clark profile picture
@MassSpec Guy
What you Bears are missing is that history moves in waves.

2019 2037 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
2001 2019 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET *
1983 2001 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1965 1983 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1947 1965 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1929 1947 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1911 1929 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1893 1911 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1875 1893 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1857 1875 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1839 1857 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1821 1839 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1803 1821 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1785 1803 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1767 1785 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1749 1767 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1731 1749 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET
1713 1731 REST CYCLE, DEFLATION BEAR MARKET
1695 1713 BUSINESS CYCLE, EXPANSION BULL MARKET

* FED delaying of Bear Market?
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This bear market rally may be out of steam by Wednesday. All the magical thinking and unsubstantiated narratives have been priced in. Time for gravity to take over as reality sets in. I wouldn't be surprised it this bear market rally tops today.
Buffalo_Ken profile picture
@mscandiffio

Here is my honest opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if the markets exceeded their previous highs. I wouldn't be surprised.....if this happens.

I wouldn't be surprised if the markets plummeted to the lowest they have been for oh.....so much time. I wouldn't be surprised.

Nothing surprises me these days, but I know this. I know that Mutual Aid will prevail in the long run and this gives me solace because I don't like living in a world where nothing surprises me.

Know what I mean?
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Agree mscandiffio, I also think today is the last day of sunshine for the bulls.
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I absolutely agree with your sentiment. When fundamental logic is rendered illogical and visa versa, only speculation will fill the void. While the scientists search for a vaccine I continue to wonder what will be the inoculation for nothing surprises me anymore.
Buffalo_Ken profile picture
Bears hibernate for a reason, but when the awaken, they are big-time hungry.
@Buffalo_Ken "Bears hibernate for a reason" I think our bear had too much milk and honey and is in a diabetic coma.

COME ON BEAR, WAKE UP AND FIGHT!!!!!!
Buffalo_Ken profile picture
A bear poem for the times.
------------
The bear came out of the cave.
Be it male or female.
It was a bear and it was hungry.

The light of the moon greeted the bear
upon its awakening
It was a bear and it was hungry.

A breath of fresh air
Gave the bear a bit of anticipation.
It was a bear and it was hungry.

The bear went out looking for something to eat.
--------------
end of poem
Markjc63 profile picture
Nobody seems to have a clue on how the Market should be Valued right now. You will see people argue that the DOW should be back to near record highs as a Vaccine is just around the corner to the Bears that believe 15,000 could be insight.

So who is more likely right and who is wishful thinking.

Unless if you live in Donald Trump Land , then the Bears have this Market right.

a) Even if a vaccine is found tomorrow, you are highly unlikely to be inoculated within the next 2 years.
b) If the US Economy suffers 2 more years of pain , even the Goliath's will be marked down sharply.
c) The US will lose 30% of its current consumers. So what price Amazon when shipments fall 30% and don't like they're coming back.
d) The Coronovirus is from the same family as the common cold and flu. There are many experts who believe a vaccine may never be found.
e) The US to date has handled this pandemic worst than most countries. The stats speak for their selves.
f) If you can't cope with Wave 1 , you have no Chance with Waves 2 , 3 , 4 or more.

Bulls will lose money over the next few years. Bears should stay short.

No way is this a 25,000 Dow Market. I have said and stick with 10,000 and there is nothing that can convince me otherwise.
Green Elmo a.k.a. User 48289781 profile picture
"Unless if you live in Donald Trump Land , then the Bears have this Market right."

But we do live in Donald Trump land.
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@Green Elmo a.k.a. User 48289781
To be more accurate, we live in a land where corporate excesses have pushed Americans to be desperate enough to elect someone as incompetent as Trump. The wealth gap (for whatever reasons) was getting extreme and people wanted a change.

Let's see in November if this change was what people bargained for.
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I guess you won't be surprised that a lot of people do not agree with you. Do you not remember 2009-2017?
terryongarland profile picture
We all have opinions..of course..we are assuming we are correct, and others are wrong.
My opinion is..The Fed has bought everything in sight to shore up the markets..the Fed can do anything, with an ability to generate what ever amount of money is needed to keep the markets up. If the markets fail here..the world will become very risky. we are in dangerous territory..the negative sentiments can become a self fulfilling prophecy. What do you all want ?
MedTechBio profile picture
If we thought we were wrong, we'd change our minds and be correct.
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Has anyone noticed. The comments that receive the larger number of likes, and also replies, spew provocative negative or angry remarks. Sometimes openly hostile but most passive aggressive bile. I for one read the articles for possibly relevant new information. I read the comments posted in order to hear additional views. In fairness, the authors of the articles often display the same which only encourage others to comment in kind. I will continue to read the articles but maybe healthier to attempt to not comment. Just saying!
Michael Clark profile picture
@USNVP-48
Don't you know: the SMART PEOPLE don't like BULLS or TRUMP -- and this has become a place to spew invective toward the STUPID PEOPLE WHO DO NOT GET IT.
Markjc63 profile picture
@USNVP-48

It takes 2 to tango on any trade. Why should someone (the seller - or you may call them a bear) be negative. If they have made a profit , they are the smart ones. People still holding the stock are just a name on a register. Until you hit the sell button every stock is worth zero.
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@Markjc63
Could not agree with you more! Two sides for every trade. Personally, I hold both "Bull" and "Bear" positions depending on the sector and specific equity. As a capitalist I sincerely want everyone to make a profit. In general I subscribe to velocity and multiplier principles. Trades and profits benefit the entire market.
I just find it difficult to imagine, under all the various pressures and uncertainty, that some truly believe that they know what's coming. There are factors that nobody has ever experienced much less traded. At 71 it seems more prudent to remain humble. Stay well and prosper!
SilentRage profile picture
This article signaled a market top. Will have to incorporate SA articles like these into my day trading.
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Sentiment analysis is a real thing. And so is doing the opposite of what "dumb money" is doing.
Aiden.Y CPA profile picture
The market is finally reflecting some reality to the true state of the economy. Short term market drivers such as government interventions and the so-called "Covid-19 Vaccine" are unravelling itself. The debunking of these myths have been clearly detailed in this article - seekingalpha.com/...
metalhead profile picture
Time for this guy to experience a humbling at the hands of Mr. Market.
Dale Roberts profile picture
Ya, that was the top for a while say my friends who know too much, ha ...

Will be happy to rebalance from some Treasuries and Canuck bonds, to some stocks.

Dale
Managing profile picture
I've noticed that SPY failed again to reach its 200 moving day average. When does the market realize that the effects of the pandemic will last not one quarter, but years?
J
over the next week.
MedTechBio profile picture
HEY! I read this article a week ago, how come my pockets aren't filled?
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@MedTechBio This correction doesn't prove Bill wrong any more than the massive spring rally proved him right. We are still early in the game.
Looks like the bears woke up today and were hungry and "malled" some buy-the-dip people.... lol. This is a Grizzly Bear too and he and his cousins :)
Markjc63 profile picture
Dumb wits on Wall Street finally took notice of Dr. Faucci and really never had a clue what he was saying. S&P and NASDAQ down 2%. When they really understand this Guy , what is the real move down - 30% , 40% , 50% or maybe more,

Wall Street as we know is full of coked-up traders on a never ending bull run supplied by Columbia. Lock down is putting supply tight , so these guys will pay ANYTHING to get their fix.

So are companies on a P/E of 50 expensive? Not really when your Charlie has jumped 2,000%

Don't be surprised if this market rises in line with the price of Coke in the near term. When the supply totally dries up - This market turns to dust.
MedTechBio profile picture
2850 is likely retrace on S&P, then 2750; if that breaks vacuum until 2500.
MedTechBio profile picture
Powell said, "Nope, ain't gonna bail you out this time..."
Michael Clark profile picture
@MedTechBio


BOTTOM
2191.00
04/20/20
GSPC, SPX
Target Gain
11458.93
7909.51
4382
3545.04
3286.50 FUTURE RESISTANCE

3023.58 <--RESISTANCE; NEXT SUPPORT
2820. < We are here. DON'T PANIC.
2716.84 < FORMER RESISTANCE, NOW SUPPORT

2519.65 RESISTANCE CONQUERED
2388.2
Michael Clark profile picture
@MedTechBio
And you believed him? If he won't, then the President (ANY president, Obama did the same) will have him replaced without someone who will.

The alternative. Economic depression and world war.
Michael Clark profile picture
SPCE is taking off again.

Don't get left behind.

seekingalpha.com/...
Davsha profile picture
Not sure what earnings will be 6 to 9 mos out but two strong views I held thruout this covid19 crash / recovery
1. Structural changes already underway such as nesting, telecommuting, robotics, drones, online shopping, 3D etc. would greatly accelerate. Hence the outperformance of select techs. Millions of folks were already slated to lose jobs in the next few years due to these trends. So jobs losses happened all at once instead of more gradually.
2. The US treasury market inverted well ahead. Though it could not have predicted covid19 in particular, it did sniff close to zero rates / free money perhaps due to impending job losses / societal vulnerabilities. Now that we have started down the road of no return ( free money to most people ) the stock market is naturally juiced. Many will spend the free money somehow as long as it keeps coming. Day of reckoning farther out.
My recent trades?
Got short ahead of Covid19 crash not because I could predict it, but mostly because of the high optimism / low volume during the final upleg. Covered too soon as always.
Bought QQQ calls close to bottom the day I heard on TV that all Trump gains were erased. I knew that bad as things are the market can accept the loss of one million ( many older / sick ) and move. Sold those too soon as well.
Right now, neutral on most equities / just trade them.
More comfortable holding short treasuries and long copper as market seems to sense inflation coming due to the free money.
Thanks for reading this far.
MedTechBio profile picture
Too soon for copper, wait til next Spring
2underpar Wyatt Oil Anthem profile picture
@Davsha - I track most of your comment, but I think this whole episode is deflationary. Look at the significant demand destruction. I don't see commodities as a safe haven as a result.
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