COVID-19: Gilead's Remdesivir Might Be As Good As It Gets

Summary
- Approved antiviral agents which might have a role in treating COVID-19 include Gilead’s remdesivir, Starpharma’s SPL7013; BioCryst Pharma’s Galidesivir; Pfizer and Merck have programs in this area.
- Remdesivir is primarily a late stage treatment which may reduce time in hospital, but it isn’t a cure.
- Treating early stage disease to prevent progression to serious illness is another approach: examples include Starpharma SPL7013, Sorrento Therapeutics antibodies, possibly Merck/Ridgeback Bio EIDD-2801.
- Drugs (mostly not yet developed) addressing immune system over-reaction for late stage acute disease might have a role. Mesoblast Remestemcel-L is possible but probably too expensive.
- Other possible candidates are many, diverse and speculative.
There are many levels to the coronavirus pandemic and a massive effort is underway to find a vaccine and treatments. Genetic Engineering News summarised 161+ candidates. The US clinical trials website indicates 1,915 trials underway using the keyword COVID-19 (June 3, 2020).
The common cold has no cure/treatment and no vaccine. A coronavirus is responsible for ~20% of common colds.
The initial reports on progress towards a COVID-19 vaccine are coming in, with mixed results. This is a tough problem and it would be extraordinary if a vaccine became available in less than 12-18 months. Even if that happens, it is likely to take considerably longer to have a really effective vaccine. So there is a big need for parallel efforts on treatments.
In this article I highlight some approaches being tried and some companies involved. You can be certain that lots of labs have recently changed their research efforts to engage with COVID-19 drugs. Below I show that there is still much to learn about COVID-19, so a cure is likely to involve a number of twists and turns and there may be multiple kinds of treatments at the end of this saga. Most potential treatments are still vague and hence who to invest in is unclear, except that most big pharma companies are looking for ways to participate with a vaccine and/or a treatment. I highlight two antiviral compounds that are already used to treat viral disease, Gilead’s remdesivir and Starpharma’s (OTCQX:SPHRY) SPL7013, which, although at a very early stage in relation to treating COVID-19, may be of interest to investors.
Potential treatments for COVID-19 fall into various categories, starting with using antibodies from patients who have survived COVID-19, to conventional approaches via antiviral agents that attack other viruses, and also various therapies (mostly monoclonal antibody-based) which bind to various immune system targets to treat the consequences of viral infection rather than the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself.
It is important to be clear what any particular treatment will actually target. The initial stages of COVID-19 are not life-threatening, and clearly a treatment that stops the infection quickly is of interest. The practical window of time during which this kind of treatment can become effective is not straightforward and conclusive evidence of effect might need substantial clinical trials.
For those who progress to severe disease, lung complications are common; the disease becomes ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) which is a condition that has a high fatality rate. ARDS involves the body’s defences going berserk and hence this is a condition where the SARS-CoV-2 virus might set things up, but the issue is as much about how to send the body’s own defence forces home as it is about attacking the SARS-CoV-2 virus. While the focus of a lot of commentary concerning COVID-19 is on respiratory disease, as a better picture of the organs affected emerges, what a drug treatment needs to look like will become clearer. The fact that patients with prior respiratory disease (e.g., asthma) are not prominent in those needing respirators suggests complexity. Indeed, the profile for a COVID-19 sufferer who proceeds to dangerous disease is more one of a patient with pre-existing blood vessel damage. So high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, obesity and the very elderly are key indicators of progression to lethal disease. A really useful summary of COVID-19 has been published in the prestigious journal Science (“How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes”). A Harvard University study based on 45,817 COVID-19 deaths in the US to April 22 showed a significant relationship between airborne pollution (PM2.5) and COVID-19 mortality, with a 1ug/meter3 increase in pollution resulting in an 8% increase in COVID-19 death. So COVID-19 is also starting to look like a disease significantly associated with airborne pollution.
What kind of drug is needed to treat COVID-19?
I have provided the above very brief overview of some of the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infection because anyone considering investment in companies searching for a treatment needs to be aware of what needs to be fixed and also what is and what isn’t going to be important in a COVID-19 drug. Beware of investing in hype from ignorant individuals, even if they are well-known public figures.
Viral diseases have until recently been very hard to treat. Often the actual effect of the virus is just a trigger for wider problems caused by its presence. HIV makes sufferers' immune systems weak and they used to die from diseases (e.g. Kaposi’s sarcoma) normally controlled by the body’s immune system.
With COVID-19 there are timing issues, as by the time they are diagnosed most people have mild symptoms (e.g. mild fever, cough, muscle soreness) that will self-resolve. The life-threatening symptoms appear late (even when a patient is apparently recovering) and death is swift. Even if there was an effective drug, it may be too late to have an effect.
If there could be a pill (or something similar, for example, inhaler) that one takes immediately after being diagnosed that prevents further viral proliferation, this would be a useful drug. Tamiflu and Relenza do this for flu. Merck (MRK) may be beginning to check out a drug for COVID-19 that could fit this category (see below).
So where will drugs to treat COVID-19 come from?
There are basically three approaches.
The first involves the early stages, to prevent the virus getting established. These rely on attacking the ability of the virus to get into cells, because if that can be stopped, then the virus doesn’t grow. Often this means drugs that prevent the virus locking onto the cell.
The second involves trying to control things as they get out of hand. This may involve more of the first stage drugs, but it also includes drugs (like remdesivir) that block the ability of the virus to replicate.
The third approach is less about the virus and more about trying to fix the chaos that it is causing. In the case of SARS-CoV-2, this is all about addressing chaos caused by the body’s own immune system going crazy. This is where immune regulating drugs come in. This third approach is not without problems as calming down an overactive immune system might have the unwanted side effect of allowing the virus to get going again.
Antiviral agents already used on humans
Drugs that have been used in humans as antivirals (not for COVID-19, but for something else) already have resolved issues that drugs that are completely new have to confront (toxicity, side-effects, etc). Here three antiviral agents (remdesivir, galidesivir and SPL7013) that have been used on humans for other conditions are mentioned as possible treatments for COVID-19. Undoubtedly, there are many more antiviral compounds being investigated.
Remdesivir
Remdesivir is a small molecule (adenosine analogue) drug from Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:NASDAQ:GILD). Gilead is best known for its very successful development of treatments which cure Hepatitis C infection, but it also has experience of developing flu treatment Tamiflu and developing drugs (little success) for treating Ebola and Marburg virus. So this company is one of the most experienced biotech companies in antiviral drug therapy. Remdesivir came out of a drug development program in 2009 to find a treatment for Hepatitis C, but it failed to be useful for that disease. It was then used to investigate (without success) treating Ebola virus infection.
Source : Chemical and Engineering News
Remdesivir has been evaluated in two Chinese trials for treatment of COVID-19 disease that has progressed to require hospitalisation. One trial involved patients who had been hospitalised but had not progressed to severe symptoms such as requiring oxygen. The other trial involved patients with severe clinical manifestations such as requiring oxygen. The outcome of these trials was negative but there were some hopeful signs of effect. Subsequent studies have indicated that remdesivir treatment can reduce hospital stay for patients with severe COVID-19. It will be some time before it becomes clear whether an effective treatment with remdesivir will prove worthwhile (e.g., reduce probability of death).
Temporary use of remdesivir has recently been approved as Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for treatment of COVID-19 based on intravenous injection in adults and children with severe disease by the FDA. Severe disease is defined as patients having low blood oxygen (equal to or less than 94%) or requiring supplemental oxygen or requiring mechanical ventilation.
The basis for approval had the following explanation from the FDA. "Based on evaluation of the emergency use authorization criteria and the scientific evidence available, it was determined that it is reasonable to believe that remdesivir may be effective in treating COVID-19, and that, given there are no adequate, approved, or available alternative treatments, the known and potential benefits to treat this serious or life-threatening virus currently outweigh the known and potential risks of the drug's use." This indicates that the approval reflects the urgency of finding treatments for COVID-19 while acknowledging that there are risks in using the drug. The optimal dosing and time of treatment is not yet clear and remdesivir remains an investigational drug which has not been approved by the FDA. Clinical trials of remdesivir continue all over the world. It is acknowledged that much is yet to be discovered concerning side effects of remdesivir use. Liver and kidney function and key biochemistry must be monitored in patients being treated with remdesivir. However, in the absence of anything else, remdesivir is now being used to treat patients in the US, UK, Japan and no doubt it will be used globally, unless more extensive clinical trials show that its overall effect is negative.
Even if remdesivir proves to be an effective treatment for COVID-19, the timeline to broad availability is still not clear due to the need to scale up complex synthesis and then produce millions of doses. Currently Gilead has supplies for initial trials. A discussion in Chemical & Engineering News gives some insight into scaling up manufacture, which is seen by experts as a medium complexity project. Gilead indicated that in April it has sufficient remdesivir to treat 140,000 patients in a 10-day course of treatment and by the end of the year it will have enough material for treating 1 million patients. If the clinical trials are successful, the demand for remdesivir could be substantial if governments choose to stockpile the drug.
The big “if” is whether or not remdesivir proves to be an effective treatment, and being delivered through injection this will enable large numbers of people to be treated. Guesses about the price for treatment have ranged widely to as high as $30,000. Even $4,460 per course seems a lot to pay for a drug whose main benefit might be reducing hospital stay and a non-significant improvement in death rate. Time will tell where this ends up. For a deeper dive on remdesivir, see DoctoRx’s recent article. Also, Robert Honeywell recently wrote about investment in Gilead more generally but in the context of remdesivir treatment for COVID-19. Bram de Haas has provided a bullish case for investment in Gilead based on remdesivir being all there is at the moment and what he sees as enormous pressure to relax social distancing. His thesis is that if there is a treatment this will force reopening of the global economy. I’m cautious about this as the treatment has to have an impact on patients and deaths or it will be a brief reopening followed by a close-down again. Sane governments are aware of this and being cautious. The US, UK and Brazil, all of whom have leaders not noted for evidence-based decision-making are acting more aggressively. Time will tell whether their confidence will be justified. It hasn’t worked for phase 1 of the pandemic.
Successful treatment of other viral diseases (e.g. HepC) has been achieved by therapy with multiple antiviral agents. A recent study indicated that 3 old antiviral drugs in combination produced some effect by shortening the time of illness. This could be the start of a successful approach to treatment, but it won’t be sorted out quickly. Gilead has a lot of experience with this kind of approach.
A hint of how this may play out comes from preliminary results from combining BioSig Technologies (NASDQ:BSGM) and its subsidiary Viraclear Pharmaceuticals’ antiviral merimepodib with remdesivir which led to viral clearance in preclinical studies. Antiviral replication inhibitor Merimepodib, which is delivered by mouth, will enter Phase II trials soon. It had a former life as a Vertex Pharmaceuticals (NASDAQ:VRTX) Hepatitis C drug candidate.
Galidesivir
BioCryst's (NASDAQ:BCRX) galidesivir is another broad spectrum antiviral that has a similar target to remdesivir. Animal studies indicate that it has potential for treating viruses such as Ebola, Marburg, Yellow Fever and Zika. Galidesivir is injected either intravenously or intramuscularly. A phase 1 trial indicated that it is safe and well-tolerated in humans. In April, a trial was initiated to assess safety, clinical impact and antiviral effects in patients with COVID-19. It seems possible that galidesivir might be similar to remdesivir for a COVID-19 treatment.
The above makes clear that there is a lot of activity in the small molecule antivirals space and it is very hard to get a sense of where it is heading. However, Gilead, with its track record of success in treating Hepatitis C, is a powerful company in this space.
SPL7013
I’ve recently summarised Starpharma’s approach to adopting its antiviral compound SPL7013 to treating early stage COVID-19.
SP7013 is manufactured at some scale for application as a condom coating and also as the active ingredient for treating Bacterial Vaginosis (BV). The BV treatment is being rolled out in markets in Europe and Asia, but it is likely that production would need to be substantially scaled up if it was to be used as a COVID-19 treatment.
The major unknown for SPL7013 is how quickly effective delivery via inhalation or nasal spray can be achieved, and once this is in place, whether SPL7013 is effective in blocking viral proliferation in the nasal passage and lungs, hence preventing COVID-19 establishment.
If you are seeking to treat the virus as a means of preventing COVID-19 disease progression, there is a timing problem. Too soon and you haven’t been able to detect the infection, too late and the disease is effectively over as far as the virus is concerned.
A recent report from Yale University has shown that analysing primary sewage sludge predicts an outbreak (based on SARS-CoV-2 testing) up to 1 week before it happens. This could provide authorities time to focus on specific areas to mitigate the development of infections, perhaps by combining sewage testing with use of early treatments (involving preventatives and drugs that hinder establishment of infection, like SPL7013).
COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) detected in primary sewage sludge several days before new COVID-19 cases in NE US metropolitan area. Source: Peccia et al Yale University; medRxiv May 22, 2020, preprint (not yet peer-reviewed) Republished as a Tweet by Brennan Spiegel.
New antiviral drugs
Other big drug companies have accelerated programs on antivirals in the hope of providing a treatment for SARS-Cov-2 virus which causes COVID-19.
Pfizer (PFE) has an as yet unnamed candidate and it is fast tracking scale up of manufacture even before the drug has been tested in clinical trials, a very unusual step which requires deep pockets, but one which reflects the urgency of finding a cure. There are rumours that the Pfizer drug might target the SARS-CoV-2 virus at an early stage of the COVID-19 disease, so it could have a different use than remdesivir.
Merck has announced a partnership with biotech company Ridgeback Bio to advance development of EIDD-2801 which is orally available (pill rather than injected) ribonucleoside which blocks viral replication. Animal studies on two other coronaviruses (SARS-CoV-1 and MERS) indicate treatment is effective in lowering virus numbers in the lungs and also improving lung function. Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier made two points about a pill form of EIDD-2801 versus remdesivir which is injected. Firstly pills are easier to scale to treat a lot of people. Secondly, a pill can be given in less structured situations than an injection, and so there is potential for giving the pill at an earlier stage of the COVID-19 disease.
Expect to hear more about big Pharma establishing partnerships to fast track potential COVID-19 treatments.
Immune material from the blood of patients who have recovered from COVID-19
This is an expensive and desperation measure for treating COVID-19 based on the assumption that people who have recovered will have some immunity to virus infection and this immunity might be able to be passed on to patients suffering the disease. In a spirit of cooperation in the COVID emergency, a number of global players have set up the CoVIg-19 Plasma Alliance to rapidly advance this stop-gap approach. Companies involved in setting up the alliance include Biotest, BPL, CSL-Behring (OTCQX:CMXHF), LFB, Octapharma and Takeda (TAK). A number of other companies and Foundations (including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) have joined the alliance.
Another approach to a temporary solution, pending development of a vaccine, is being developed by Sorrento Therapeutics (SRNE).This San Diego-Suzhou company is working with the Mount Sinai Health System in New York, to develop an anti-SARS-CoV-2 drug combination based on 3 antibodies that bind to a specific part of the protein which makes up the spikes on the surface of the virus. It is suggested that a single treatment may last for 2 months, although the evidence supporting this claim seems limited. It will be a while before its usefulness is clear as a Phase 1 trial (to determine dose level and safety) will not occur until Q3. The science on choice of the appropriate monoclonal antibodies seems solid, but there are always surprises. An old example from development of an influenza vaccine led to a vaccine that, when tested in pigs, protected from 1 strain of flu but made the pigs more sensitive to infection by another strain. Vaccine development is not straightforward and nor will development of stop-gap drugs based on antibody treatments be any simpler. Investors interested in Sorrento’s approach should be aware that it is at a very early stage and there is no guarantee of a successful outcome. John Reilly has recently written in more detail about Sorrento’s overall business and put the COVID-related developments into perspective. Note that hyped up reports that Sorrento has a cure for COVID-19 are well, rubbish.
The question about Sorrento’s approach is whether it will be more effective than other drugs like Starpharma’s SPL7013 which do a similar thing (blocking viral attachment to target cells). Sorrento’s approach involves injecting antibodies, while Starpharma is more focused on delivery into the nasal passages, lungs and eyes (i.e., initial infection foci for the virus).
Sorrento’s products are monoclonal antibody-based and these are complex and expensive drugs to manufacture and scale up.
Immune system based treatments
When things get tough with COVID-19, a lot of the trouble is with the patient’s own immune system, and the trouble that can be caused when the army (immune system) won’t go back to barracks. Hence there is a big focus on treatments that suppress the immune system, although some researchers caution about this approach as it has the potential also to allow the virus to get out of control. This will be a fine balance and won’t be solved quickly.
Companies developing products for inflammatory diseases are focusing on acute COVID-19 ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) which is the end stage lethal outcome of “cytokine storm.”
There are a lot of companies and trials starting to investigate this approach, primarily because a lot has been invested in developing monoclonal antibodies to modulate the immune system. In some respects, this is a case of the basic science looking for a commercial application. I think it is too early to make sense of this, but investors wanting to follow up can check out many clinical trials involving this kind of approach. Interleukin 6 (IL-6) is a particular target of interest and Roche (OTCQX:RHHBY) has recently received FDA Emergency Use Authorisation for its Interleukin-6 test for identifying patients at high risk of severe COVID-19 progression. Clinical trials.gov has 50 clinical trials involving use of Roche anti-interleukin-6 receptor monoclonal antibody drug tocilizumab (an immunosuppressive drug used for rheumatoid arthritis) for treating severe COVID-19, for those wishing to follow up on immune system drug treatments.
Another company investigating COVID-ARDS is Mesoblast (MESO) which has a mesenchymal stem cell product, remestemcel-L, which is being trialed for end stage COVID-19, where the fatality rate is extremely high. Remestemcel-L is a very high cost live cell product which, even if it works, would have a limited market because of the very high cost.
Heparin
Heparin is a widely used anticoagulant and some have suggested that it might have a role in severe COVID treatment which involves small blood clots in the lungs, although an initial study suggests that COVID-19 sufferers might be resistant to heparin’s blood-thinning effect. On the other hand, heparin is a negatively charged complex sugar which might bind to SARS-CoV-2 and prevent infection. Yet another angle on heparin is that sulfated glycans are known to bind key proteins involved with immune system overreaction and there is some evidence that heparin might mitigate the cytokine storm that is major problem in severe COVID-19. So heparin could have multiple possible roles in formulating treatments. This discussion of heparin shows how complex it is to come to grips with treating a disease whose mode of action is still not clear.
Whether heparin or other sulphated glycans might end up having a role in treating COVID-19 remains to be established.
Hydroxychloroquine
There has been a lot of ignorant chatter about hydroxyquinoline, including the assertion that it can’t hurt, so why not take it? The truth in relation to treating COVID-19 is that hydroxyquinoline might increase your risk of dying. This seems like a good basis for the WHO suspending a major trial of this drug. Combining hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) with antibiotics seems to have an even worse prognosis in treating COVID-19.
Where does this leave the candidate treatments?
Above I’ve tried to give a sense of the kinds of therapies that are being investigated for treating COVID-19. It is a moving feast as the long-term impact of suffering SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19) is yet to be fully realised. For most people it looks like a quick recovery and back to normal, but there also seem to be a small percentage of people for whom the effects are long term and new therapies will be needed to address their illness.
COVID-19 is that rare once in a century event that proves that, for all of our sophistication, humanity is still at risk from new pathogens. Given the urgency to recover from economic shutdown, the chequebooks are open for researchers with good ideas. It is that rare time for researchers where even very risky, but plausible proposals are being fast-tracked. And as a result, one can expect that there will be surprises (hopefully good ones) on the way for effective treatments for COVID-19, which may or may not become less critical if/when an effective vaccine is developed.
Conclusion
Biotech investing is risky at the best of times. Chasing a major uplift by investing in a company that becomes prominent with a COVID-19 treatment is even trickier. Some investors like to have a small part of their portfolio with a high risk/high return profile. I suggest that for COVID-19 it is still very hard to see what a successful treatment might look like, although two antivirals already tried in humans - Gilead’s remdesivir and Starpharma’s SPL7013 - might have roles, and Merck’s partnership with Ridgeback Bio on EIDD-2801 is worth keeping an eye on. The drugs need not only to work, but they must be delivered appropriately and be given time to work.
Gilead has a strong track record of success with antivirals and their HepC cocktail cures this disease. The difference between HepC and SARS-CoV-2 is that HepC is a slow and unrelenting disease, which means there is time for a treatment to take effect. COVID-19 in its lethal form is a much more acute disease and the timing for treatment involves a narrow window. It seems unlikely that remdesivir will become the cure for COVID-19, but it may have a role in treating patients without other options, even if it just reduces time spent in acute care. Only with further clinical trials will a treatment path become clear and the scale of opportunity for Gilead investors be understood. It looks like some success is already baked into the current share price, so any adverse results might impact the Gilead share price negatively. However, remdesivir might be as good as it gets (and that might not be very good) to treat the later stages of the disease.
Starpharma’s SPL7013 has promise as an enhanced preventative as well as attacking the early stages of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Getting a handle on who to treat (sewage analysis may help regionalise where to target) as well as achieving effective delivery are key issues for the success of SPL7013.
I’m suspicious of immune-suppressive treatments like those based on Interleukin-6 as they might end up creating as many problems as they solve.
On a final note, this discussion about treatment options for COVID-19 suggests that no miracle cure is going to happen any time soon. Also, notwithstanding political promises of a vaccine before the end of the year, the experts are all being much more circumspect. Taken together, limited prospects for a cure and a probable delay in developing a vaccine (if indeed it becomes possible to develop one) mean that unless governments want to try out what a major outbreak looks like (the US currently), social distancing and the negative impacts on economic activity might be with us for some time. It is worth factoring this into your deliberations about getting back into the market.
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Remdesivir has been shown to help adults with the coronavirus recover.
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I also can’t resist what point out that the author hasn’t said anything about the hundreds of thousands demonstrating over almost two weeks, walking arm and arm, often without masks. I didn’t see one reference in his comments concerning the possibility of spreading the virus. Selective use of data, assertions of who did what to whom, when unfortunately have dominated the discourse rather than letting the data inform actions. The pandemic has also produced a lot of so called experts who are very sure of what negatively can happen, but will never admit they really don’t know,. A typical statement by Dr. Fauchi just recently made on some program is that if baseball is played it should not extend to late October. NFL football has already announced their season will proceed. The obvious contradiction is almost comical.
- even Fauci acknowledges that outdoor congregation is much lower risk
- the video I've seen (I avoid Faux News) show most *with masks*
- some, Fauci specifically I don't recall, experts *have* voiced concern"The obvious contradiction is almost comical."well, on the one hand we have an infectious disease expert, while on the other a bunch of old, white, male billionaires sitting in their skyboxes well away from the pack players. also, more football is played indoors than baseball. who's ox could be gored?? why, the billionaires, of course. let's wait and see how many corpses emerge from the Tulsa revival meeting in a month.the steroid in question is old and cheap (oral tablet & liquid, IV), but isn't a 'cure'. reduction in death can be as high as 35% (vented patients), based on PR. no data yet. doesn't appear to fit same indication as Rem.


New Jersey are democrats and have publicly acknowledged that the President and the
Federal government have been very responsive to their requests. When Trump announced that the Federal government would handle policy to address the virus, both sides of the isle protested that constitutionally he did not have the authority and that authority rested with the states. Your statements define an alternate reality. When the country shut down in mid March do you know how many known cases we had in the US. Let me ask you, would you have shut down the whole economy if you had that few cases in the country.
Inam happy for Australia, but just to put the problem in some perspective,prior to the shut down, as many or possibly more people were traveling on planes and public transportation in the US than the total population of Australia. Even after the country was shut down, NYC dudn’t Shut down it’s public transit system. Over 600000 people use the subway system daily.and the reduced usage did not immediately occur. You don’t have all the data to make your judgement calls. My reading of the data and the sequence of events is different. You compared Brazil and Australia. I gave you some additional data. You talk to two dense cities and make a statement you only need one. Now that is naive. Density matters and the more places where that is the more difficult the problem. You then changed the primary factor to Federal State cooperation. Again that is a much bigger and complex problem in the USA than in Australia, I won’t post anymore because I don’t believe any data I post will change your conclusions.


To the author, the population of Australia is less than 1/ 10 of ours. We have many more concentrated cities and if you are familiar with Australia, the population is on the coastal rim of the country with practically none in the vast interior. Geographic isolation is much easier to accomplish. You might compare Australia’s numbers with Florida’s. One should not ignore that the governors claimed that it was their constitutional right to direct what each state’s public health response was to the virus. When the data showed early that a disproportionate number of deaths were in long term care facilities, many governors did not alter the policy decision to send infected residents back to their long term care facilities.
Cucumber, you may have lived in the DC area in the past, I live there now and have been here for almost 20 years. In point of fact for the last three months almost the entire work force has been working at home. Very little traffic of office workers has been in evidence. The grid lock during commute hours has disappeared. It is only in the last week that some commuting has picked up. As with most of your statements you seem to not have the facts.


Australia : cases 7,355; deaths 102; new cases today 15 (includes a family member who infected 10? relatives and several people returning from overseas)Florida deaths/million population 137; number of tests 66,635
Australia deaths/million population 4; number of tests 71,830I rest my case.

More data. In the US; DC has more reported deaths than 22 states despite being among the slowest to open their economy.. It also seems logical that since it has been estimated that more have had the infection and not known it, than have been tested positive by a factor of 3 to as high as ten, contact tracing can’t find most of the people possibly infected. Not that it shouldn’t be done, but it has to be realized that doing so for the newly tested infected people will not stop the spread possibly of the infection for the majority of infected people. And when the tracing identifies those exposed, without a therapeutic, it will not prevent the exposed from infection.

on the viral capsule.www.scripps.edu/...
Instead of political statements what does the data inform you? The media, many politicians and others spend a lot of time wringing their hands verbally conjecturing a Coronavirus second wave might come this winter. Let’s just discuss the possibility that no vaccine, therapeutic medication are available this year and the virus doesn’t mutate to a less virulent form or by some unknown happenstance herd immunity occurs or the summer doesn’t kill the virus, it will still be infecting people. No doubt in this situation deaths will occur. What is your or for that matter the author’s vision for how the country should react? I’ll give you my view. We should strive to maintain a hospitalization number less than our capacity to treat patients and to minimize deaths. Economically, we should function as close to normal. We should be very attentive to making sure infected patients in long term care facilities are isolated and employees as well as residents in those facilities are tested often. Employees should wear ppe whenever they must deal with infected people. I also believe with future data and study our health officials will determine whether, if and what level of anti.bidies in the blood provides immunity and for how long. Testing for anti bodies should be as universal as possble. Of course if an effective therapeutic medication or vaccine is available before winter or the virus goes away that would be a better result. If we are not prepared to face the other downside case and not have an economic catastrophe we should plan to find a viable solution.
As for political statements, they should not pertain to the intent of this article.





The media seems to have a vested interest in both scaring the public and convincing them that the country must not restore a semblance of normal life and economic activity. It has also forgotten to report whether the capacity of hospitals to treat virus patients is more than the hospitalizations occurring and the resulting deaths are not increasing with time. Cumulative numbers of course will increase until no deaths and infctions occur. The rearl question that should be asked is that condition predictable ever? People still die of the bubonic infection and that pandemic occurred almost seven centuries ago. 10s of thousands still die every year from the flu, but we don’t shut down the economy, nor not attend church or go to stadiums to watch baseball, soccer, football and we don’t close the schools. In 1968 the Hong Kong flu pandemic resulted in 100000 deaths in the US and 1 to 4 million in the world. I went to work and my older children went to school. Major sports went on as usual with the crowds in the stands. There was no therapeutics or vaccines and the population of the US was two thirds of what it is today. A linear ratio of that population to deaths incurred would yield .150000 deaths today. The question it seems to me that should be addressed is what is acceptable steady state, if no vaccine or therapeutic is available in the foreseeable. Surely it can’t be closed schools, perpetual wearing of masks and distancing, no spectator sports and a large portion of our small businesses not economically viable.
Combining it with an effective oral il6 inhibitor into a two component pill (such as FAVIPIRAVIR plus calaibrutinib) is what could be envisioned as a potential therapeutic that could be given to common Covid 19 patients at risk for progressing to severe Covid disease.
Jan 25, 2020. 01:22 AMLink"Unfortunately turned out to be an accurate prediction


Emergency medecine in that institution. His statement refers to the general observation that the cases they are treating seem to be milder. He says that a decrease in the severity of infection is not wholly attributed to the possible mutation of the virus. It seems to me if such a mutation has happened it can readily be verified. It also seems to me that the public health organizations would focus on discovering if it is, since it would be very instrumental in informing our public actions, if true. Of course, if the larger political process is more invested in believing that the virus will flare up again possibly in a more virulent form and so we should keep our schools closed, our businesses tethered to distancing , reduced capacity, etc. then let’s dismiss the positive mutation possibility..

www.healio.com/...Sir Frederick Banting and colleagues discovered insulin and:
"Demonstrating his altruistic commitment to advance medicine, Banting sold the patent rights for insulin to The University of Toronto for $1, claiming that the discovery belonged to the world, not to him."
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