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Sentiment Speaks: Bonds Are Killing The Stock Market


  • Many have suggested negative correlations with bonds and the stock market for many years.
  • Throughout history, bonds have rallied and fallen during times of stock market rallies.
  • Following any seeming correlations will often leave you confused at the important turning points in the market.
  • This idea was discussed in more depth with members of my private investing community, The Market Pinball Wizard. Get started today »

Yes, it is time for me to post another article, which means it is time for another dose of reality about the market.

All I have heard for so many years is that if the market is going down, you should "hide in bonds," as they are a good safe haven when the market declines. Yet, has anyone even looked at the multi-decade bond trend which has been upward bound alongside the financial market uptrend?

So, of course, with the market dropping over the last several weeks, it must certainly mean that the market is rallying higher. Right? Yet, as bonds have dropped these past few weeks, everyone is panicking and claiming that the market is going down because interest rates are rising.

In fact, here are some of the titles of the recent articles published on Seeking Alpha: "Rate Shock Rocks Stocks: Why Markets Fear Rising Rates," "Week Ahead - Rising Rates Spook Markets," "The Treasury Market Selloff Is Quickening And Hurting Stocks," with many more similar articles published on other websites.

Which is it folks, as you cannot have it both ways!? Does the stock market rally with bonds? Does the stock market rally when bonds are dropping? Does the market drop alongside bonds?

In truth, most people just fit the narrative to what is going on at the time in the markets. In other words, all of the narratives regarding rates and the market are based upon very superficial and specious perspectives, and are simply meaningless.

So, if you still don't believe me, let me ask you this: are markets not able to rally when rates rise? If you actually knew your market history, you would know that markets have risen during times when rates rise and have also risen during times when rates fall. So, history tells us that the direction of rates


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Avi is an accountant and a lawyer by training. His education background includes his graduating college with dual accounting and economics majors, and he then passed all four parts of the CPA exam at once right after he graduated college. He then earned his Juris Doctorate in an advanced two and a half year program at the St. John’s School of Law in New York, where he graduated cumlaude, and in the top 5% of his class. He then went onto the NYU School of Law for his masters of law in taxation (LL.M.).

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Yet, when it came to learning how to accurately analyze the financial markets, Avi had to unlearn everything he learned in economics in order to maintain on the correct side of the market the great majority of the time. In fact, once he came to the realization that economics and geopolitics fail to assist in understanding how the market works, it allowed him to view financial markets from a more accurate perspective.

For those interested in how Avi went from a successful lawyer and accountant to become the founder of Elliottwavetrader.net, his detailed story is linked here.
Since Avi began providing his analysis to the public, he has made some spectacular market calls which has earned him the reputation of being one of the best technical analysts in the world.

As an example of some of his most notable astounding market calls, in July of 2011, he called for the USD to begin a multi-year rally from the 74 region to an ideal target of 103.53. In January of 2017, the DXY struck 103.82 and began a pullback expected by Avi.

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One of his most shocking calls in the stock market was his call in 2015 for the S&P500 to rally from the 1800SPX region to the 2600SPX region, whereas it would coincide with a “global melt-up” in many other assets. Moreover, he was banging on the table in November of 2016 that we were about to enter the most powerful phase of the rally to 2600SPX, and he strongly noted that it did not matter who won the 2016 election in the US, despite many believing that the market would “crash” if Trump would win the election. This was indeed a testament to the accuracy of the Fibonacci Pinball method that Avi developed.

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