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Stock Market Still A Good Investment

Mar. 07, 2021 9:25 PM ETSPY, QQQ, DIA, SH, IWM, TZA, SSO, TNA, VOO, SDS, IVV, SPXU, TQQQ, UPRO, PSQ, SPXL, UWM, RSP, SPXS, SQQQ, QID, DOG, QLD, DXD, UDOW, SDOW, VFINX, URTY, EPS, TWM, SCHX, VV, RWM, DDM, SRTY, VTWO, QQEW, QQQE, FEX, ILCB, SPLX, EEH, EQL, QQXT, SPUU, IWL, SYE, SPXE, UDPIX, JHML, OTPIX, RYARX, SPXN, HUSV, RYRSX, SPDN, SPXT, SPXV16 Comments
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Summary

  • Robert Shiller, award-winning economist, has just given his reasons for keeping one's investment portfolio more heavily invested in stocks rather than bonds.
  • Although stock prices are "expensive compared with past eras" there is still reason to expect them to maintain value or even rise due to the efforts of the Federal Reserve.
  • Bonds, on the other hand, are not that good of a longer-run investment as the market points to rising inflationary expectations and the possibility that foreign monies will leave the U.S.

Robert Shiller, Nobel prize-winning economist, is arguing that stock prices are not too high and that compared with bonds, are still the superior investment vehicle.

Unequivocally, the market is expensive compared with past eras.”

Mr. Shiller uses his infamous measurement of stock market value, the CAPE, or, the Cyclically Adjusted Price Earnings ratio, a measure he helped create with John Campbell, now at Harvard, in 1988.

A high CAPE ratio suggests that the market is overpriced, portending low subsequent returns, while a low CAPE suggests the opposite. Professor Campbell and I showed that the CAPE ratio allows us to forecast over a third of the variance of long-term returns on the stock market since 1881.”

The CAPE ratio is 35.0 today, much lower than its highest level, 45.8, which was reached on March 24, 2000, at the peak of the millennium stock market boom. The market fell sharply soon after, and the CAPE has climbed much of the way back, reaching a cyclical high of 35.7 on Feb. 12. Its current range is the second highest since our data began in 1881.”

So, the stock market is high and some day it is going to move so that the CAPE is more around its average value. The thing that the CAPE does not tell us is when. The CAPE is not something one relies on in terms of timing. So, the CAPE could stay at 35.0 for years.

The thing that is keeping stock prices high, relative to earnings, is that for more than 10 years now, the level of the stock market has been highly dependent upon what the Federal Reserve is doing.

And, right now, the Federal Reserve has stated that it will continue to err on the side of monetary ease for the foreseeable future.

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John M. Mason writes on current monetary and financial events. He is the founder and CEO of New Finance, LLC. Dr. Mason has been President and CEO of two publicly traded financial institutions and the executive vice president and CFO of a third. He has also served as a special assistant to the secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development in Washington, D. C. and as a senior economist within the Federal Reserve System. He formerly was on the faculty of the Finance Department, Wharton School, the University of Pennsylvania and was a professor at Penn State University and taught in both the Management Division and the Engineering Division. Dr. Mason has served on the boards of venture capital funds and other private equity funds. He has worked with young entrepreneurs, especially within the urban environment, starting or running companies primarily connected with Information Technology.

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Comments (16)

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PS20
08 Mar. 2021
Over paying for stocks because bonds are not a good investment does not make sense. If you think stocks are undervalued, buy. If they are over valued, wait. But buying overvalued stocks is silly.
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@PS20 , That is one of many silly things an investor can do.
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There still is no real good alternative to stocks as earnings continue to beat, more help on the way for the bottom of the K majority, more vaccine on the way, and the economy continues to reopen. Bonds and other fixed income may be in for some hard times as debt continues to accelerate to infinity and beyond, and as the US/global economy reopens inflation will probably continue to rise as there will be more and more demand for stuff. Precious metals will probably be good longer term, nibbling on the dip so I can trim on the rip and improve cost basis/profits, and cash instead of bonds to take advantage of opportunities as they arise. I think the "protection" aspect of bonds will be sorely tested going forward.
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@fujilomi , People who bought bonds near the top have gotten hurt.
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So the billionaires can crash the markets at night playing the “stock futures” cashing in their high tech stocks.
TDune75 profile picture
Too much talk advising not to buy bonds, or as the saying goes, “something smells fishy in Denmark”.

So everyone is supposed to continue to pile into stocks? What about PM’s? Right, PM’s have been in a strong downward trend since last July.

Nowhere to go. No place to hide.
BlueInsight profile picture
@greedyfellow Really interesting idea. How has the Fed moved away from supporting stocks? Or is it an impending event?
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@BlueInsight

It is an impending event and my prediction. Never has the setup been so convenient for the Fed.

The retail lemmings who rushed in over the last year will try to all get out over the next few weeks. It will be an ugly sight.
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Whereas Trump tweeted every week about the Fed and Powell (tweets are archived on Bloomberg), Biden has said he may not run again for President.
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@greedyfellow Biden is merely a “temp”, assigned to get a few egregious laws enacted, then be gone...
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I think the Fed has decided to pull the plug on the stock market. Let off the steam in the pressure cooker in the first few months of the first presidential term.

Next week's FOMC is going to be a reiteration of last week's Fed communications.
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@kimbillro

A good way to understand this Fed is that it is highly politicized. They have an ideal setup to pop this gigantic bubble they have created.

First term of a President who says he doesn't know if he wants a second term.

Can't get any easier for the Fed than to let the bubble pop now.
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@greedyfellow , The only problem is that the Fed needs a bubble popping needle for starters.
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@greedyfellow SPXU, SQQQ, BTC and ETH will get us all through this upcoming mess!
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