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Why Cloudflare Is A Buy Despite The Premium Price

May 04, 2021 7:17 AM ETCloudflare, Inc. (NET)104 Comments

Summary

  • Cloudflare's stock price is up 270% over the last year and it introduced more than 550 new products and features in 2020.
  • Cloudflare's mission statement "to help build a better internet” has been the guiding star for the company.
  • Cloudflare has built itself a huge total addressable market through disruptive innovation. It has learned this from the best: Clayton Christensen, the father of innovation.
  • Cloudflare rolls out free products that it makes better through the feedback of its customers and then it starts charging.
  • The stock is priced at a premium price but compounding earnings beats and continuous innovation make it a buy for long-term investors. The numbers confirm the story.
  • This idea was discussed in more depth with members of my private investing community, Potential Multibaggers. Learn More »
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Introduction

On Thursday, May 6, Cloudflare (NYSE:NET) reports its Q1 2021 earnings. The stock has been on fire over the last year. Let's start with the stock price, up almost 270% over the last year:

The company's

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        Comments (104)

        Longbow Archer profile picture
        As I type this the EV/Sales is around 25x

        A silly valuation despite the drawdown.

        There isn't very strong correlation between past revenue growth and future revenue growth.

        BCG (Boston Consulting Group) has a marketing piece where they show a study that revenue growth is the single best determinant of outperformance over longer periods of time (10 years +).

        However, what BCG fails to point out is that past fast/high revenue growth is NOT highly correlated with future high/fast revenue growth rates.

        That's why these "fast revenue growth" strategies always come back down to earth every major market/interest rate/economic cycle.
        u
        Great article. Checks almost all the boxes for me.
        I'm opening a position with 100 shares tomorrow.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @unclemot
        Thank you. I'm not sure how big your portfolio is, but usually, I advocate going in slowly.
        To each his/her own, though.
        u
        @From Growth to Value I completely agree. I'm retired and this buy is well within my personal guideline of a maximum 2% of my portfolio for any new purchase. Thanks for the heads up. I'm a follower and try not to miss any of your analysis.
        Keep up the good work.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @unclemot
        Thank you for your kind compliment.
        What I mean is that I scale in slowly. If I would want a 2% position, I would only buy a 0.2% position right now and go to 2% over the course of the next months/year.
        monkeydluffy profile picture
        When you say "With a ttm EV/revenue of almost 60 and a forward P/S of 33", are you assuming that Cloudflare is going to grow revenue by 80% in 2021? This does not seem to be reasonable.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @monkeydluffy
        ttm EV/revenue actually looks back to 2020. With the fwd P/S, I look at 2022. Of course, you are right here, traditionally, this is seen as 2-year forward P/S.
        J
        Re: NET v. FSLY, do both (eventually) successfully co-exist in different market segments or does one outshine the other?
        i
        I agree Cloudflare is a good company. When a company is not making money the first question I have is are they buying revenue and you have to say yes since they have around 50% of their cost is sales & marketing. You do make a good case that they can make money with your future gross margin analysis. Here's my issue, if they reduce the sales & marketing they will have a difficult time keeping the high growth rate, once you get over a billion in revenue it is very difficult to maintain 20%+ revenue growth. Using analysts growth rate (usually optimistic long term) they are expected to grow to $1 Billion in 2023. At that point they still have a P/S over 20. They can possibly grow by 25% for a few years so at the end of 2026 they would have a P/S of 11 but you have to expect grow to drop below 20% and they have the risk of a shiny new company coming in with a better mousetrap, happens all the time in software. So you did not make a good case for the valuation, they are priced to perfection and will get clobbered if the growth drops faster than expected. They had a nice run and a good quarter but I think the valuation has caught up to them. NET has been trading sideways for months, looks like a nice bounce back today but no way this is a buy when you look at the long term downside risk. I certainly can be proven wrong, it has happened before.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @i like stats
        You see, that's the problem with putting too much emphasis on valuation. If you have a very high-quality company and you are a long-term investor, valuation is much less important than most people think. Why? A few reasons:
        1. You write "analysts growth rate (usually optimistic long term)" If you look back on estimates of a few years and you look at the analyst projections of the very best companies, they are ridiculously undervaluing growth rates.
        2. Beatings compound in a huge way. If you have a company with $100M in revenue and growth expectations of 25% and it does 32%, beating just by 7%, that means that revenue is after ten years is $1.6B instead of $900M. Huge difference.
        3. In this case, what makes you think Cloudflare's growth falls off a cliff? Just that $1B in revenue? Look at what FAANG does. Scalability is much easier nowadays, don't look over your shoulder. Look ahead.
        Of course, if growth falls dramatically, the stock would plunge, and that's why it's very important to know the company very well and to just have the very best of the very best. Cloudflare is in that category, believe me. I have written dozens of articles and updates about it for my subscribers.
        If you don't believe me, that's ok, I'm only here to help.
        B
        @i like stats Cloudflare's RPO and deferred revenue numbers are growing significantly faster than booked revenue is. RPO grew mid 80%s YoY this Q and makes up 90%+ of revenue. So you claim once they hit $1bil, which will happen in 2022 (not 2023)... The revenue growth will fall off a cliff to low 20%s? Why? It is more likely to stay at ~50% or even accelerate. I guess the default thing to say if you don't have an answer is another company will come along and disrupt them. If you've been paying attention to what they are doing that scenario is extremely unlikely.

        Analyst projections are the opposite of optimistic for companies like Cloudflare. They pretty much always way underestimate long term compounding growth in companies like these by assuming things like you state (revenue growth has to fall to 20% because they just hit $1bil in sales).
        i
        @From Growth to Value valuation always comes into the picture eventually. I understand NET is in the emotional stage - growing fast and has good technology and good PR. Do you thing any of the FAANG companies are growing over 20% for the next few years? Do you think valuation is ignored on the FAANG companies, none are valued over 10x sales. My comment about $1B revenue is that to achieve a 20%+ growth rate means you have to grow by over $200M and once you get to $2B you have to grow by $400M, and they have never grown by over $200M, in other words it gets harder. You may be right, I am shorting this stock because I have seen so many next great thing software companies take off in the early days and then die off when competition heats up. I plan to stay in a short position for years adding to my short position on the peaks and covering a portion on the dips. It has served me well over the years and this may be one that I lose on, but I don't think so.
        Critilyst profile picture
        You guys are all delusional, at P/S 57x, this garbage is going down!
        Easy short, in this environment it'll be 50$ in a few days!
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @Critilyst
        If you call Cloudflare garbage, you make yourself ridiculous.
        Market timers always sound confident but most lose money. But just like the rest, you'll probably claim you are the exception, right?
        Critilyst profile picture
        @From Growth to Value I'm not calling the company garbage, of course, I'm calling garbage the ridiculously overvalued stock price.
        But let's see, time will tell!
        Critilyst profile picture
        @From Growth to Value so far it looks like I was right! :P let's talk in a few days below 50$? hope you're getting your cash ready to BTFD!
        T
        Impressive article. Well done!
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @TheTransporter
        Thank you very much for your kind words!
        c
        Great writing using disruption theory, I'm a believer.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @canyon
        Thank you very much!
        GLTU and keep growing!
        Millennial_Tyler profile picture
        Great article. Ive read countless others and this one brings about a unique view as to why to invest. I've been a investor in NET since IPO, everyday they remind me more and more of a early google with their superb vision and speed to innovate.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @Millennial_Tyler
        Thank you for your kind words and well done!
        G
        Great article. I have not invested as of yet, but your article has given me a better appreciation about the company.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @Greendog1
        Thank you!
        GLTU and keep growing!
        h
        Great read. Thank you for mentioning his professor and the books. I will look into reading those at some point as well. Long and hoping to keep adding to my position.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @hadanlo
        Thank you. I have read The Innovator's Dilemma and I really liked it.
        GLTU and keep growing!
        littlemoola profile picture
        As a software engineer I am fully aware of the potential for this technology but I fear the ramifications of having anti US forces in charge of my country. I can foresee our allowing China to take over S. Korea and Taiwan not to mention a nuclear Iran. How would those event affect the stock market and the world. A lot of uncertainty in the larger picture.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @littlemoola
        Mixing investing and politics is always a mistake, imo.
        GLTU and keep growing!
        c
        In the 1950s, I was afraid of a REAL threat, a nuclear Russia. Early 1960s convinced me the world was too dangerous for putting money into stocks.

        Looking at my bank balance now, running the numbers, I think I made an error lol.
        magichr profile picture
        @From Growth to Value investing is politics. Its just a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about acting like they do know what they are talking about regardless of what side they are on.
        S
        @From Growth to Value Shopify is extremely overvalued today.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @SilverBandit
        Thank you, that's exactly what I heard in 2017 as well. :-)
        GLTU and keep growing!
        S
        @From Growth to Value In 2017, it wasn't. In 2021, it is. It's down over 25 percent from its all time high. It's heading lower.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @SilverBandit
        Looking back, it never is, but in 2017 many commenters like you said it was extremely overvalued. And it has been down at least 30% in every single year since I bought it. I don't care. As long as you keep great companies for long enough, you'll have huge winners.
        T
        Thanks, I really enjoyed this article.

        Started my position in NET on the recent dip, around $67. Wish I’d got more now, but I think I’ll continue to add. I work in IT and Cloudflare is ubiquitous for DNS and security and that’s just a fraction of what they do.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @TechnicalEntry
        Thank you and yes, you are right. I think most people underestimate the company and its products. The real killer product will be edge computing, imo.
        GLTU and keep growing!
        J
        Great analysis and explanation of the concept of disruptive innovation
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @JasonFromBoston
        Thank you for reading and your kind words!
        GLTU and keep growing!
        AmorVinum profile picture
        Good insight. Core holding for me.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @AmorVinum
        Thank you. For me too. :-)
        GLTU and keep growing!
        L
        Great article! I only wish I realized the potential of NET sooner. Probably would have established double my current position. At this point CRWD, SPLK (love the company and valuation) and NET are my highest conviction tech disrupters. Any other names I should be keeping an eye on?
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @Let The Led Out
        Thank you for reading and your kind compliment. I think it's still very early for Cloudflare. Edge computing will probably be the killer product. So, there is still time to double that position. But, as I write in the article, I would do it slowly.
        GLTU and keep growing!
        r
        @Let The Led Out Not sure I would consider SPLK in the same category as NET and CRWD.
        L
        @rajathubli Splunk is a more mature company and very different from CRWD and NET. However they have very deep market penetration (over 90% fortune 100) and a huge runway for growth. Once their cloud transition is done I think there trajectory will be similar too crwd and net but trades at much lower multiples so better margin of safety imo
        J
        $145 by eoy
        C
        Great article, $NET is 23% of my current portfolio!
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @CosmonautPT
        Thank you very much and well done!
        GLTU and keep growing!
        c
        Great article, especially the part about innovation.
        From Growth to Value profile picture
        @chillax
        Thank you. I'm glad you like it.
        GLTU and keep growing!
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