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in all due respect kev the democrat operatives are trying but cock eyed and ass backwards as usual.
Kev sign these guys up with the northern alliance.
I predicted a year ago O’Biden wouldn't last a year . . . . .
Henry Miles profile picture

And, we all certainly look to you for predictions.
GreenEggs&Ham profile picture
@JDoe20 You'll probably be about as accurate as Rombo.
0 for lost count
@Henry Miles
Thanks Henri!
@james CARLINI Trump's "peace in our time agreement" aka "master plan" with the Taliban was a straw document, IMO. You can read it here. www.state.gov/...
"The deal was supported by China, Russia and Pakistan and unanimously endorsed by the UN Security Council, although it did not involve the government of Afghanistan." en.wikipedia.org/...
The release of Taliban fighters was also done against the protests of the so-called Afghan government.
Ponder these facts when trying to figure out who the US imagined itself to be fighting for over the past 20 years.

Trump's "master plan" had one immediate effect: insurgent attacks against Afghan security forces surged. In the 45 days after the agreement (between March 1 and April 15, 2020), the Taliban conducted more than 4,500 attacks in Afghanistan, which showed an increase of more than 70% as compared to the same period in the previous year.[12] More than 900 Afghan security forces were killed in the period, up from about 520 in the same period a year earlier. On June 22, 2020, Afghanistan reported its "bloodiest week in 19 years," during which 291 members of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) were killed and 550 others wounded in 422 attacks carried out by the Taliban.

Biden had two choices: double down or cut and run. Personally, I think Biden made the right choice.
What is wrong with many of you? Most have asked the real question - which is not whether to leave.

Whether to leave with no forethought or planning OR whether to have a well thought out plan and executing on that plan.

The O’Biden Admin did little planning OR this went exactly according to plan. And that is the scariest thing to ponder . . . . . .
@JDoe20 Then you must believe the Trump plan, of pulling out 4 months earlier, would have been less chaotic. On what do you base that? The Trump plan of letting out Taliban fighters? The Trump plan of not involving the Afghan government? The Trump plan that gave the Taliban a free go at women and other Afghanis who supported us?
@JDoe20 Good grief there were 20 years of "plans". The last was Trump's empty shell that only asked that the Taliban negotiate with the Afghan Government, which they did. Snicker. This was the same "government" that Trump snubbed. Of course the Taliban rolled up the country. Yes, they did so faster than anyone imagined, but don't get your pants in a wad. This too will pass.
Knowing the background and beliefs of Stephen Miller, I am inclined to believe Olivia Troye who claims that Miller and his team slow walked or refused to walk at all those refugee applications that will now result in a number of our Afghan allies being killed. None of this excused the botched intel and naivete' of those believing the Taliban could be trusted to honor what they said in the 2019-2020 negotiations or that they can be trusted now that we have a new administration. But the blood of thousands is on the hands of Miller and his buddies.
techy46 profile picture

Biden had 8 months or longer if he needed toplan an orderly evacuaton.

His administration was consumed with taking credit for Trump COVID plans.

He spent 8 months reversing all Trump did and wasting another $2.2T.

He's planning on wasting another $3.5 plus $1.2 trillion on socialism.

If you voted for Biden the Moron you fuck the dog and the USA.

Have a great day watching Americans trapped in Afghan by Biden.
@techy46 Would you care at all to comment on what Miller was said to have done or do you just want to deflect and rant about Biden who I have already said, in other posts, was not well prepared for this day? Or perhaps you would like to explain why Trump had 5000 Taliban released or why several in the past administration are running away from any responsibility for the Pompeo/Trump "plan".
techy46 profile picture

Obama had 5 Taliban senior leaders release to get one US traitor back.

Trump agreed 5.000 Taliban fighter be released to get 1000 Afghans.

US elections are not held so that those elected get to blame priors.

Biden said 8 months in Jan getting out by 9/11/201, he could've said 12.

He should've had everyone agree to a unitified exit plan not piecemeal.

The had a secured US air base to use as embassy and all evacuations.

The could've moved all over 8 months in military caravans with air support.

It not fucking nuclear or rocket science!
And in FACTUAL news that political biased rags don't seem to care about, the FBI has confirmed no insurrection occurred on 6 Jan. "The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials." "Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."
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@nhsully88 What BS. Who's claiming a "grand scheme"?
It was an insurrection. Period. The end.
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Crosetti also raised this. When I see the report, I will evaluate it against actual court testimony including of those who have said that they were 'motivated to action' by Trump and their ilk. It is amusing that a bunch of rightwingers who have declared that they trust neither the feds nor the FBI are now waving this report.
@GreenEggs&Ham So add failure to comprehend to your list of deficiencies....
I think you guys help protect her that is honorable
@al roman still needs a good stiff kick in the ass
Good election winning stuff
Did you see the rap sheet on those below here they were being protected locally that goes on everywhere above us nw too
All these kids here are green not the auxiliary but even up the road
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Jeepers Creepers
@allnite4321 did you know about those global internet idiots ?
@allnite4321 and about the fluff what a case
On March 11 @SnoopDoog wrote me that he had a bowel movement, it was a really happy day for him , then he dissapeared.... He is a great friend & I sure miss him
@allnite4321 I miss him too I can feel his heart beat
All in All
When Sears part of brothers heart I mean of the soul it proves spirit is greater then flesh
But it doesn’t supersede the humility of feeling the feelings of the flesh heart beats of your brothers
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It’s easy to find politicians saying dumb things. Television news gives them plenty of coverage. Viewers like colorful voices, which are often the most extreme. Kardashianization of politics doesn’t matter much unless these caricatures tarnish an entire political party, define its public perception, and compromise its chances of passing legislation and winning elections.

That’s the Democrats’ problem with “the Squad,” led by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

This problem arose again last week when squad member Cori Bush told a national TV audience how eager she is to defund the police. Rep. Bush hasn’t learned the single most important lesson about being stuck in a hole: Stop digging.

A new poll, just completed by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris Poll, shows that 75% of respondents want more police and only 25% want less. About the same number, 72%, oppose defunding the police.

Of course, many voters also want to see police reforms and greater transparency. One sign that the political winds have changed is that two progressive cities, Seattle and Minneapolis, which gutted their police budgets last year, now want to increase them. They are not alone.

Cori Bush spit directly into that wind last week during her CBS interview. Correspondent Vladimir Duthiers asked Bush her response to critics who say it is hypocritical for you to support defunding police departments while she is spending lavishly on her own personal security.

Bush’s bizarre response:

“They would rather I die? You would rather me die? Is that what you want to see? You want to see me die? You know, because that could be the alternative. So either I spent $70,000 on private security over the last few months, and I'm here standing now and able to speak, able to help save 11 million people from being evicted.” “I have private security because my body is worth being on this planet right now.”

That’s not an appealing message. It is political malpractice for Cori Bush to embrace this kind of narcissism, hypocrisy, and cringing victimization on national TV. It’s even worse when your own party is scrambling to limit the self-inflicted damage done by the movement she advocates. Republicans will be happy to re-air that interview again and again. It’s that bad.

In city after city, police know they no longer have the support of top elected officials. They know many of their arrests won’t be prosecuted. The predictable result is that more police are retiring and those who remain are spending more time sitting in squad cars and less time chasing criminals.
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A couple tidbits...

Looks like Monday Pfizer gets full FDA approval.

Mississippi officials warn against using ivermectin for COVID-19 amid spike in poisonings

Mississippi health officials are warning residents against using ivermectin, a horse dewormer medication, to treat COVID-19 infections at home amid a spike in poisoning calls to the Mississippi Poison Control Center.

The Mississippi Department of Health sent a letter out to to the MS Health Alert Network on Friday warning health professionals of the spike in poisonings from individuals digesting ivermectin.

“At least 70% of the recent calls have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers,” the letter stated.

Only one person was told to seek further help due to the amount of the ivermectin ingested and 85 percent of callers had mild symptoms.

Some of the symptoms individuals can experience are rash, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, neurologic disorders, and sometimes severe hepatitis.

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There have been no hospitalizations reported to the department yet from someone ingesting ivermectin to cure the coronavirus.

“Animal drugs are highly concentrated for large animals and can be highly toxic in humans,” the letter signed by state epidemiologist Paul Byers stated. “Patients should be advised to not take any medications intended to treat animals and should be instructed to only take ivermectin as prescribed by their physician.”

The increase in ivermectin use comes as Mississippi is struggling to deal with an increase in coronavirus cases as the state has the second-lowest vaccination rate in the U.S.
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@GreenEggs&Ham Ivanmectin is gonna be livid.
Just face it

Biden and crew are a mess on a global scale

Biden can't even tie his shoelaces
Ben Gee profile picture
@BHLH865 Biden is Potus. He beat the other guy.
@Ben Gee

you're right voting has consequences and now the globe is feeling it
Henry Miles profile picture

I have come to expect Republicans to be reactionaries but never at this level. War, and the end to them, is inherently messy. I'm thinking that you and your kind should put a little distance on it before passing judgement.
“Let racism die the death it deserves”

Kill Critical Race Theory

@TMMD What do you got against racism ?
Ben Gee profile picture
@TMMD I live with racism all my life. It made me a better person.
Ben Gee profile picture
@allnite4321 Racists are losers. They would be better if they do not carry such attitude.
It was probably Ben and Jerry's ice cream
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