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AT&T: The $5-8 Special Dividend Coming In 2022

Dec. 02, 2021 12:18 PM ETAT&T Inc. (T) Stock469 Comments
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John Rhodes
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Summary

  • AT&T's price continues to fall.
  • AT&T's culture of debt is a problematic.
  • AT&T's management explains their special dividend in 2022.
  • This idea was discussed in more depth with members of my private investing community, Growth Stock Renegade. Learn More »
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Where Are We Now?

I don't think anyone is surprised about AT&T (NYSE:T) right now. What I mean is that there is no love, no momentum and no cheer. The market is clearly against T right now and the price shows it:

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Comments (469)

jsantmyer profile picture
Not to mention as the old debt is either liquidated or refinanced, the company cost of capital will increase due to interest rates as the FED attempts to get control of inflation.

IMO, they will find their ability to create enough operating cash flow to support the CAPEX required to maintain future growth will become challenged in the future-if they do not figure out a way to grow by using their own internally generated FCF without having to bring on new debt.

This idea of buying back their shares in my opinion is the not a good plan regardless of the stock price. That is internal cash that can be used to grow going forward, without having to bring on new debt to cover their operational growth capital needs.

They would be well advised to use that money to continue to either pay down debt well below the 2.5 EBITDA/DEBT ratio or to refrain from having to issue new debt.
Westfool profile picture
@jsantmyer

I thought CAPEX was mostly taken care of.... oh wait they HAVE to sell to others right?

This is one company that should shift to a buyback and I'm normally against.

I think Divie still good and spinoff now has a great opp.
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Why is this article even still online with such a misleading headline? Should have been deleted weeks ago.
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Those foolish enough to think T will ever be anything but a cash-sucking company that has, and will continue, to go nowhere, get what they deserve.
MathMan1959 profile picture
@Technosemi

Why don’t you provide comments on stocks that you think will provide good returns ?
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WHAT IS THIS? RHODES HAS GOOD ARTICLE ON T AND SPINOFF AND FROM WHAT HE SAYS LOOKS LIKE MIGHT BE GOOD IDEA TO OWN SOME TO GET THE SPINOFF AND I LOOKED AND HE OWNS NONE !
John Rhodes profile picture
@johnny corsaro

Mysterious...

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"Disclosure: I/we have a beneficial long position in the shares of T either through stock ownership, options, or other derivatives. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions."
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When my Buddy got a big layoff in management in 2001 at ATT prior SW Bell then, the 1st thing he did was Sell his 10000 share in the 401k to cash then rolled it out to a broker IRA in the SP500 low cost fee. They best thing he ever did, just chart it and see for yourself. His $320,000 cash then would be worth 200 k, but the SP 500 IRA is worth 1,000,000
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@spiro3 so happy for your buddy
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@spiro3 glad that move worked out for him
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Screw t and there woke snowflakes
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@redtrkwilman ,

That kind of comment has more impact if you get the spelling and punctuation right.
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@dlhatheway Maybe punctuation and spelling have been canceled like everything else.
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@dlhatheway ... but not much. Stupidity spelled correctly is still not intelligence.
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From a technical look I think T has a double bottom, and is forming a cup and handle. I am still buying more. Also DISCK
JunkBondage profile picture
@grharbart201 I have never understood technical analysis. It seems like voodoo to me. What does a double bottom and a cup and handle indicate (besides tea with Kim K.)?
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@JunkBondage it is a way of quantifying and attempting to predict market psychology and historical crowd madness..
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jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@JunkBondage Everyone else technical-trading sees it as a double bottom/cup and handle and buys, completing the self-fulfilling prophecy and enabling them to go around saying "see! It WAS a cup and handle!"
cyoung1 profile picture
If I have $100 in my piggy bank, and I take out $25- so that there is only $75 left, that is hardly a "special dividend!" It is merely a split of assets, and that's what T is doing here. Hey, but it's "tax free!"
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@cyoung1 wrong. you will be receiving shares of the new TW. So remaining T stock value plus value of the new TW shares should approximately equal the total value of T stock just before the restructuring takes place. It is a tax free spin off, not a special dividend. You can then do whatever you want with your new TW shares: hold, sell, or sell and by more T shares, which is probably what I will do. The dividend on the new T shares will be reduced, but the effective div yield on the new T stock should be in the range of 5-6%. In a "bubble"-type environment we are in now, the T story (and owning the stock), I think offers a very good risk/reward opportunity.
cyoung1 profile picture
@truckster You are repeating my point! The article says T management is calling it a "special dividend." As to whether this is a good deal, we'll see.
jspi profile picture
jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@truckster Two things: "T is trading at book value" and "T is not hemorrhaging cash". Sometimes it really is that easy.
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Congress continues to raise the National debt ceiling just to keep afloat. So, why should the savants who run AT&T behave any differently?

At a time when there continues to be a disconnect between stock price and "fundamentals", why should debt (one of those pesky fundamentals) have any bearing on the price of the stock?

The idea behind M&A is to secure a gem at a fair price that will function as the rising boat to lift the rest of the dead weight that is AT&T. This approach compares favorably with the craps shooter who hopes to make up his losses with just one more throw of the dice.

And how's that working out?
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jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@sanberdoo I can't tell if you're being facetious but you're right... like you have all these companies with high debt trading at stupid PE multiples but then people act like we're idiots when we ask why T is getting beaten. At least T has an established track record and generous dividend, what the fuck does TDOC have? Speculation sets the price and on those kinds of stocks debt is an afterthought.
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This will be the turnaround story of the decade. T back to its roots and a climb back to the top and the new company an appreciation dynamo. Those who sold will be sorry
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@justanopion good one
John_III_XVI profile picture
@justanopion Almost convinced me to buy. Almost. LoL
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@John_III_XVI you should, it is a good risk/reward opportunity now.
taxxkiller profile picture
Barclays analyst Kannan Venkateshwar upgraded AT&T Inc (NYSE: T) from Equal-Weight to Overweight and a $30 price target. The price target implies an upside of 26.2%.
jspi profile picture
jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@taxxkiller It's almost as though T has solid fundamentals. Who would have guessed! It's not like any info is public record! /s
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I sold part of my T shares at 25.6 $ to buy more PFE at 43 $ just four days before pfizer announce its oral covid pill. PFE is now 59 $ a 37 % increase in a month. I still own 1,500 T shares, I intend to sell part of them to buy discovery before the spin off takes place.
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Hey what the heck happened to T today with a 100,000,000+ volume and up? isn't this an overreaction to just the MS analyst upgrade? let's hope this is a honest inflection point and a turning point for T; long T
johnx4x profile picture
Att sounds like a good buy.. but it isn't... not until capitulation under 20. We basicly need to kick everyone off the ship.. including current shareholders. So if u own it at $50, sell now.. or ill buy it when it is $18.
jspi profile picture
jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@johnx4x I think you missed your shot buying in the teens. Analysts won't let it go below $22 again. It's buy ratings and price-target upgrades from now until the merger in the summer.
Dividend Growers for Life profile picture
@gymbeaux I sold at $34 and I'm buying at $18. Analysts will keep dropping their target price when the price keeps falling. They have no control over the price in this situation.
jspi profile picture
jspi
01 Jan. 2022
@Jose Chepetas $18 before the DISCA deal is highly unlikely and $18 after the DISCA deal is more or less what the share price is now factoring in that you won't get shares in DISCA buying so late.
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The selling in late November looks like tax selling, does anyone agree and does this potentially set for a pop back to the $25 neighborhood in q1 2022?
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@Burnedtwice I think it touches 20 first.
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@Seeburto Don't know for sure, but seeing some numbers like new T is around $15 and newco is about $6, so I think market honing in around that valuation, which means around $21 may be the bottom.
MathMan1959 profile picture
@truckster

A few weeks ago the “street” consensus was new T to be $20-$21 and new TimeWarner to be $6-$8. It keeps dropping.
How can something be “a problematic?” Is it just me or when you see a glaring grammatical error it just calls into question everything contained therein?
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I wonder what happens after the Fed starts raising interest rates to slow down inflation?
pcprincipal profile picture
@Bill Simpson 451 - not much. Raising rates a quarter point on rock bottom rates won’t temper demand. The issues are supply and labor cost related. As for T, it doesn’t change the story.
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@Bill Simpson 451 It is actually positive to T and other quality companies that generate large FCF and pay dividends. Why? If money is becoming tighter, investors will gravitate to companies that are less dependent on outside capital for funding their operations. Fed raising rates is positive for quality companies that generate FCF and pay good and rising dividends. It's another reason to own T here.
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I’ll believe the special Div thesis when I see it.
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The company has failed for 20 years but the same team remains. Move on!
jspi profile picture
jspi
31 Dec. 2021
@San Marzano Kind of an oxymoron for a company to "fail" for two decades.
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@gymbeaux well top T management gets nice compensation and bennies......so I guess for them there is no fail-20 years of cream for the fat cats. one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
jspi profile picture
jspi
11 Jan. 2022
@Bo Didley There are no shortage of stocks that have yet to make fresh highs since the Dotcom Bubble in 2000. It speaks more to how recklessly speculative investors were on tech stocks at the turn of the century than any fault with company management. If you have been holding T since the 90s, it's not fair to single out T. If you bought in late 2019 on the other hand, you have my blessing to roast Stephenson and the rest of T management for their botched acquisitions.
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