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Alibaba: The Aftermath Of The Crackdown

Summary

  • The regulatory crackdown has brought the largest Chinese tech companies to their knees, including Alibaba, but the encouraging news for easing regulation on Big Tech provides a strong vote of confidence.
  • The increased compliance with anti-monopoly practices has already been reflected in Alibaba's financials with falling profit margins due to opened up competition for the company.
  • Regulations have not crashed Alibaba's operations, but the softening domestic spending, global supply chain disruption, Russia-Ukraine war, and domestic Covid restrictions further extend the short-term headwinds.
  • Despite the continuing stock market meltdown, Alibaba is a business I feel comfortable with being invested in through the bear market.

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Investment Thesis

Alibaba Group (NYSE:BABA) has recently jumped on the news for easing CCP scrutiny and collaboration with SEC. However, even though the news proposes a positive political development, it wasn't a catalyst factor to support BABA stock

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Comments (23)

EliasMouawad profile picture
Nice article. BABA is rising today. It's rising on heavy volume.
Blueper profile picture
Alibaba is a joke! Have any of you-all ever used it to buy products? Again....it's a bad joke. The "marketplace" of Alibaba is nonexistent. I have tried to make deals with the "marketers" (people operating from a garage with a phone) on Alibaba dozens of times over a ten year span with ZERO SUCCESS. This was for my company, legitimate volume orders. I would estimate the fraud on Ali-the-baba to be ABOVE 90%.
47977204 profile picture
BABA is held by Chinese citizens as well as Foreigners and by Mutual Funds. It’s downfall has greatly damaged the finances of many families.

China does not care and the takeaway is never buy any Chinese stock, period.
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I might invest in BABA or other Chinese stocks if Jack Ma was seen walking alone in San Francisco.
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I've made money on BABA twice. Now the risks have gone up. I have a measly 10 shares & expect that in a year or 2 I'll pay my long term capital gains & buy a case of wine, make a home or car repair with the money.
Godspeed Trader profile picture
Is BABA a good buy?

A: yes, a goodbye.
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The problem with investing in Chinese companies is that because China continues to have a communist regime that prevents direct investment in Chinese-based companies.
therefore investing in Alibaba listed on American stock exchanges or in Hong Kong is not investing in the real Alibaba company based in China.
For example I can buy 100% of Alibaba listed on the stock exchanges and I cannot appoint any Administrator in the real Alibaba company based in China. In essence, investors are investing in a company that receives profits from the rents on houses that are owned by another company.
It's similar to a real estate business but Alibaba listed on the stock exchanges doesn't own any property, it just takes the profits.
These so-called VIE structures do not have the same value and risk as investing in the ownership of a company, being able to appoint the company's management and be able to decide on the possibility of changing or influencing decisions that affect the company's business.
Therefore, as long as China's communist dictatorship does not allow direct investment in companies based in China, it is impossible to make investments in companies based in tax havens that have a VIE structure that do not represent the ownership of the company based in China.
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@lmcmf I sympathize with your argument, and it makes good sense. However, the overwhelming number of US investors lack even a minuscule fraction of the capital needed to affect corporate decisions. Only a few can dream of having enough money to affect the corporate decisions of Tesla or Amazon, and you can forget about overruling Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos’s decisions. So while your argument is solid, in practice US investors are too small to have little real power to control corporate decisions.
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@DScid yes agree
Paul Claussen profile picture
"Hello! McFly!" The BABA dog has been in an unrelenting downtrend for more than 15 months. There is a brand new chart pattern that accurately describes this phenomenon. That pattern is called: "Double Black Diamond". This pattern reflects a Steep, Downward, Bumpy and Dangerous trajectory. I encourage everyone to spend 5-10 minutes taking a stroll down memory lane and look back at all the headlines for SA articles on for BABA over the past two years. There are many including article after article from authors (sometimes 10+ articles from a single author) claiming BABA had finally bottomed, it is too cheap, "the more it drops the more I buy" and similar nonsense. The bottom line is that the market clearly told us this dog was on a Double Black Diamond. If you bet against the trend, you lost. All of those who insisted on calling a bottom have consistently been catching a falling knife. How did we ever get this far? It's so unnecessary. This is a very simple chart to read. When the trend breaks, then (and ONLY then) consider dipping your toe in the water. Otherwise, stay away. Good luck to all.
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@Paul Claussen Sentiment too is a good indicator. When every author on SA has abandoned BABA, then it will be a good buy.
Paul Claussen profile picture
@DScid Thanks. As I write this, the ratings on SA are listed below. SA Authors maintain a Buy rating. Quant is a Hold. The author of this article has a "STRONG BUY" rating.

BABA Ratings
SA Author Buy 3.90
Wall Street Strong Buy 4.50
Quant Hold 3.08
arok79 profile picture
@Paul Claussen These same so called gurus have had a "strong buy rating" for last year+ now. All it's done is put in a 70% drop in that amount of time. So don't waste your time reading these FURUs. They are clueless when it comes to CCP headwinds. BABA has been another outstanding short last 15-16 months. Stellar returns on put options.
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I sold all my Chinese stocks because I'm sick of them enabling Russia.

They are uninvestable because of what they're doing and going to do to Taiwan. They learned no good lesson from Ukraine.
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@eurdone88 Would you take the same approach with American tech companies if the US government started taking actions that you strongly disagreed with? Or would you separate a country's businesses from the actions of such county's government?
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@MplsSnowball
Chinese dictator controls Chinese companies.

I'm a US citizen so I should be investing in US stocks mostly. They also have the best history of producing gains so it makes financial sense to do so.

US companies have a lot more autonomy than Chinese or Russian companies, so its easy to separate them. Maybe I would have a problem buying defense ETFs when America was invading Iraq, but no reservations since its Russia being the aggressor now.

My tech heavy portfolio is already being battered by interest rates, but I'm not selling, I'll keep buying shares since I believe in their future and want them to succeed. I thought China would behave in order to achieve economically... but it seems they've remained bad actors, so I'd rather they not succeed. I don't want to profit at the expense of Taiwan, and I don't trust the Chinese government not to invade.
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"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up."

Stock pricing these days has nothing to do with the companies any more. It's ambient noise that drives pricing. What did Putin say? What did the CCP say? What did Elon Tweet? What did the SEC say? What did Rubio or Cotton puke? What did Sanders or AOC puke? What fake story did Bloomberg print? Which oh-so-sensational story is CNBC hyping? And of course Powell is approved for another term because he did suck a good job (I puke). At least there is some consolation in knowing he'll feel the pressure of cleaning up his own mess.

IDK, how bout if we double the Fed balance sheet to $18 Trillion. Have congress write checks to everybody for another $4 Trillions. Pay off everyone's student loan debt for another $1.5 Trillion. Raise the minimum wage to $20/hr. There, that should do it. ---- Finally, a real crash can happen so we can get back to investing in companies and what they produce.

Nah, probably won't happen.

Anyway. I'm very long baba, but I've fallen and I can't get up.
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I am not afraid of China, but of US doing something similar as they have done to shareholders of Russian companies. What do you think?
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@mendo I haven't been thinking in that regard. I trust no one in government on our side of the ocean, either, so yes, good question
Tellurium128 profile picture
@mendo exactly. With Chinese stocks, you're not just gambling on the kindness of dictator Xi, you're also gambling on the insanity of the US government. Do you really trust either? Let alone both at the same time
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@mendo Investing in Chinese companies with VIE structures is more risky than investing in Russian companies.
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