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Retired. Natural gas proponent. My motive is to educate leaders and the general public about our vast resources of clean and inexpensive natural gas. This will help end useless wars in the Middle East, and lower prices for all users. It will help improve economies around the world. We need... More
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  • Another Play On Natural Gas. Trigeneration Adds Natural Gas Air Conditioning.  6 comments
    Nov 25, 2012 3:18 PM | about stocks: GE

    I have been participating in a Linkedin log on Cogeneration and OnsitePower Production. (COSPP) Cogeneration and trigeneration allow companies to produce their own electricity and heat with their own fuel. Usually natural gas. Trigeneration adds air conditioning to the system.

    Natural gas prices have dropped to such a good price, that it will be very sensible to invest in new equipment or equipment changes to add air conditioning. Payback rates will be faster than ever before. Those companies who are leaders in that field will greatly benefit.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigeneration

    www.linkedin.com/groups/Cogeneration-Ons... Discussion thread.

    Identifying those companies who have the best products, sales, marketing, and service should result in good investments for those who make the best choices.

    My choice would be General Electric, because they are heavily involved in natural gas equipment and uses. They make the most efficient natural gas turbines I know of, and are working on the new home vehicle fueling pump with Westinghouse and Eaton. They are also building out the fueling infrastructure with leading modular service stations and other products.

    www.ge-energy.com/solutions/trigeneration.jsp

    www.ge-energy.com/products_and_services/...

    finance.yahoo.com/news/clean-energy-fuel...

    www.ge-energy.com/solutions/CNG_in_a_Box.jsp

    There may be better companies to target trigeneration growth, but GE is the most diverse play ,for natural gas infrastructure, that I know of.

    Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours.

    Additional disclosure: I am an unpaid advocate of natural gas.

    Themes: natural gas, turbines, LNG, CNG , infrastructure, fueling, service, air conditioning Stocks: GE
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  • Sid Abma
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    Thanks Ron for working so hard to educate the importance of natural gas. America is so blessed to have such an abundance of this relatively cheap energy source.
    The challenge is to get our governments and industries to realize how efficiently this energy can be consumed.
    With the technology of Condensing Flue Gas Heat Recovery COOL exhaust can be vented into the atmosphere, and the recovered heat energy used back in the building or facility where it was combusted.
    Reading in the newspaper yesterday, rain amounts for California do not look good for this winter again.
    If every industry and building consuming natural gas, were to do so efficiently, the Water being created during this heat recovery process could help alleviate our ground water consumption.

     

    Ron all we can do is keep at it.
    Thanks, Sid Abma
    http://bit.ly/TgNgzr
    26 Nov 2012, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • ronwagn
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    Author’s reply » Thanks for being my first viewer! You have a great product and it is a real money and water saver!
    26 Nov 2012, 02:26 PM Reply Like
  • Sid Abma
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    Ron.
    It seems so simple.
    America now has a lot of natural gas. The Clean Fuel.

     

    America wants to reduce global warming.
    In 2011 American commercial buildings, industry and power plants consumed approx. 17.5 Trillion cu.ft of natural gas. To safely and completely combust this gas, excess air is required. 10% to 20% for boilers. up to 90% for turbines. Take this gas amount and multiply it by the above factors, and what is going into the atmosphere is a LOT of cu.ft of HOT exhaust.
    Now lets imagine this volume of air without excess heat in it.
    Global Warming?

     

    America wants to reduce CO2 Emissions.
    How many millions of Btu's could be recovered and utilized back in the building or facility where it was combusted?
    Multiply that number by 118 lbs = How many Tonnes of CO2 emissions would that reduce from our atmosphere?

     

    Natural gas is consumed to create heat, and most heating appliances have a chimney . If no excess or very little heat leaves the chimney the natural gas was consumed efficiently.
    To use America's natural gas efficiently, the effort has to be put into not having waste heat leaving the chimney.

     

    Wasted heat energy is wasted profit. Who wants profit?

     

    Doesn't it all seem to be so simple? Why then is it so difficult?
    27 Nov 2012, 11:50 AM Reply Like
  • ronwagn
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    Author’s reply » You are a great presenter of the facts. It seems that it is very hard to change peoples thinking. Dollar savings seems to be the best approach. Environmental factors are important to some. It takes great marketing, and salesmanship to get people to accept new ideas. The good part is that once you get it going, word gets around. It is like pushing a snowball , it gradually gains mass, and then you can roll it down the hill.

     

    You need to be able to talk to the decision makers. The accountants should be able to understand the potential payback, but the executives are the decision makers. The engineers may not want to be bothered. That is my take, without any real experience trying to sell this type of product. Just my guess.
    27 Nov 2012, 01:25 PM Reply Like
  • Maninder Batra
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    Good research Mr.Wagner . Thanks...
    14 Dec 2012, 07:33 AM Reply Like
  • ronwagn
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    Author’s reply » I really appreciate that Mr. Batra!
    15 Dec 2012, 07:16 PM Reply Like
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