American Express Company (NYSE:AXP) Morgan Stanley US Financials Conference June 11, 2025 9:45 AM ET
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Christophe Y. Le Caillec - Chief Financial Officer
Unidentified Analyst
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Christophe Y. Le Caillec
Getting really good at saying that, by the way.
Unidentified Analyst
Yes. So delighted to have with us today from American Express, Christophe Le Caillec, CFO, to our conference. Welcome, Chris.
Christophe Y. Le Caillec
Thank you for having me.
Question-and-Answer Session
Unidentified Analyst
Second year here. Welcome back. So maybe let's start high level and talk about the growth outlook you have. Amex has been able to drive really robust top line growth since the pandemic. That's moderated somewhat over the past year, but you're still looking for growth above historical levels at 8% to 10%. How do you think about the runway for growth over the next few years? And how can you get back to that double-digit aspiration?
Christophe Y. Le Caillec
So I think the starting point is -- the right starting point is the TAM, the total addressable market. The way we think about it from a TAM standpoint is that the TAM is growing at about say, 5-ish percent in the U.S. It's basically GDP plus a bit of inflation. When you overlay on top of that, internationally grows at a bit faster because their cash conversion to credit is a bigger opportunity. When you put all of this together, we think the TAM is growing at like 6%, 7%. And what's specific about American Express
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